Frank being Frank game

[sys]

preparing your team and the ability to adjust during games are, like, huge f'ing things on the coaching to do list.

yeah, i agree.

[sys]

this is the problem with trying to have a conversation with people like You and MIR.  You get proved wrong and your only retort is to say what is dramatically proven and destroy's your position isn't what it actually was/is. 

10-0 run where our absolutely PATHETIC offense was hitting ANYTHING is momentum.  Note how right after that we went ICE COLD again, just like the other 35 minutes of the game where we couldn't hit a shot.   We cut a massive deficit by more than half.  Its the exact same thing from the KU game, massive deficit, KU back on heels, we're in the game, and crap in game coaching costs us the momentum.  I'll wait for you to tell me that run @ ku wasn't momentum either.

Like I said, dishonest at best, at worse out right lie or lower than low BBIQ.

you're such a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  i´ve got to learn to stop treating your posts seriously.

[ednksu]

this is the problem with trying to have a conversation with people like You and MIR.  You get proved wrong and your only retort is to say what is dramatically proven and destroy's your position isn't what it actually was/is. 

10-0 run where our absolutely PATHETIC offense was hitting ANYTHING is momentum.  Note how right after that we went ICE COLD again, just like the other 35 minutes of the game where we couldn't hit a shot.   We cut a massive deficit by more than half.  Its the exact same thing from the KU game, massive deficit, KU back on heels, we're in the game, and crap in game coaching costs us the momentum.  I'll wait for you to tell me that run @ ku wasn't momentum either.

Like I said, dishonest at best, at worse out right lie or lower than low BBIQ.

you're such a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).  i´ve got to learn to stop treating your posts seriously.

dude post something to refute me and quit being such a whiny bitch when you are proved wrong.  Its not hard to have a conversation.  You look like a rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) when you say a 10-0 run on the road isn't momentum.  Go back to chest thumping.

[sys]

it wasn't momentum, you rough ridin' tard.  it was just a random stretch where ou missed a couple of open js.  leads fluctuate, js falling is like flipping a coin, and over the course of a game, you'll get 3 or 4 tails in a row.  if you have eyes, and can see that the team down by 18-10 points is still playing crap d, then you know that there is no chance that they're coming back.  because 3 or 4 tails in a row is likely, but a 9-10 isn't.

[ednksu]

it wasn't momentum, you rough ridin' tard.  it was just a random stretch where ou missed a couple of open js.  leads fluctuate, js falling is like flipping a coin, and over the course of a game, you'll get 3 or 4 tails in a row.  if you have eyes, and can see that the team down by 18-10 points is still playing crap d, then you know that there is no chance that they're coming back.  because 3 or 4 tails in a row is likely, but a 9-10 isn't.

aside from the insult that is what I was looking for from the very rough ridin' beginning.

At what point do you say we have momentum?  A 10-0 run in this league on the road is big.  So are you telling me that today we never had the momentum?  I don't see how you can say that.  The game was clearly changing at that 8-6 time.  We were actually hitting shots, after that we went ice cold again.  Sure OU was missing shots, I don't see how we can ignore our 'defense' or at the very least say we weren't rebounding better at that point.

[sys]

At what point do you say we have momentum?  A 10-0 run in this league on the road is big.  So are you telling me that today we never had the momentum?  I don't see how you can say that.  The game was clearly changing at that 8-6 time.  We were actually hitting shots, after that we went ice cold again.  Sure OU was missing shots, I don't see how we can ignore our 'defense' or at the very least say we weren't rebounding better at that point.

we hit shots and rebounded all through the 2nd half.  the problem was we couldn't defend.  i say we did not have any momentum because when i was watching the game i had no sense that anything had changed or that kstate had any chance to win the game. 

[ednksu]

At what point do you say we have momentum?  A 10-0 run in this league on the road is big.  So are you telling me that today we never had the momentum?  I don't see how you can say that.  The game was clearly changing at that 8-6 time.  We were actually hitting shots, after that we went ice cold again.  Sure OU was missing shots, I don't see how we can ignore our 'defense' or at the very least say we weren't rebounding better at that point.

we hit shots and rebounded all through the 2nd half.  the problem was we couldn't defend.  i say we did not have any momentum because when i was watching the game i had no sense that anything had changed or that kstate had any chance to win the game. 

I was that way for the entire first half, especially 11 or 12 minute mark.  when the lead got stretched out to near 20 I felt we were over.  When they started to bring it back all the coaching cliches were hitting for us.  Ball was coming off the rim right for rebounds, shots were falling that weren't before, guys had a bounce in their steps and most importantly OU couldn't hit a shot.  Now I will grant they were still able to drive into the paint at will, showing our defense was not quality during that stretch.  The thing that I feel supports my position is that after that switch to zone and 3 it was so similar to the KU game.  We never got back into it, never had defensive stops, even if it was just them missing and us out rebounding them.

[stunted]

Amazing you tards act so surprised.

Be happy Frank won't bend over for his players.  He's going to make questionable decisions on the surface, but its better than going against his coaching philosophy.  While the following seems inconsistent, why should Angel even have a chance if he has mumped up in practice.  What point would that make?  Submitting to the players a little here and there, eventually we'd have a nice SLTH on our hands.  There isn't much margin for error, they have to be 100%, 100% of the time.

After the Baylor game I was fine with Martin doing his thing (throwing Angel/Gip out there) and living with it knowing that probably it helps the long run. It just gets annoying when in the same week he pulls the opposite and then Angel doesn't even see the floor. I get the "I've got to make a point about how your practice" talking point, but make it with a half, then get the guy back out there.

[MakeItRain]

Amazing you tards act so surprised.

Be happy Frank won't bend over for his players.  He's going to make questionable decisions on the surface, but its better than going against his coaching philosophy.  While the following seems inconsistent, why should Angel even have a chance if he has mumped up in practice.  What point would that make?  Submitting to the players a little here and there, eventually we'd have a nice SLTH on our hands.  There isn't much margin for error, they have to be 100%, 100% of the time.

After the Baylor game I was fine with Martin doing his thing (throwing Angel/Gip out there) and living with it knowing that probably it helps the long run. It just gets annoying when in the same week he pulls the opposite and then Angel doesn't even see the floor. I get the "I've got to make a point about how your practice" talking point, but make it with a half, then get the guy back out there.

Now stunted is a true Frankite!  You're 100% correct, I hate seeing Angelito benched though.  I wonder what Jake would say that 08 Mizzou did for the rest of the season and his career?

[catzacker]

Amazing you tards act so surprised.

Be happy Frank won't bend over for his players.  He's going to make questionable decisions on the surface, but its better than going against his coaching philosophy.  While the following seems inconsistent, why should Angel even have a chance if he has mumped up in practice.  What point would that make?  Submitting to the players a little here and there, eventually we'd have a nice SLTH on our hands.  There isn't much margin for error, they have to be 100%, 100% of the time.

After the Baylor game I was fine with Martin doing his thing (throwing Angel/Gip out there) and living with it knowing that probably it helps the long run. It just gets annoying when in the same week he pulls the opposite and then Angel doesn't even see the floor. I get the "I've got to make a point about how your practice" talking point, but make it with a half, then get the guy back out there.

Jfc.  Wooly wasn't a piece of crap coach because he didn't bench larry reid, he was a piece of crap coach because the vest he could recruit was larry reid.  Benching angel is fine if frank could land someone else besides will spradling or tay.  Also, it's rough ridin' awful coaching/development if the only way you can prove a point is during games instead of practice.

[stunted]

Jfc.  Wooly wasn't a piece of crap coach because he didn't bench larry reid, he was a piece of crap coach because the vest he could recruit was larry reid.  Benching angel is fine if frank could land someone else besides will spradling or tay.  Also, it's rough ridin' awful coaching/development if the only way you can prove a point is during games instead of practice.

He wouldn't have the balls to bench Larry Reid.  Its a powerful thing to be willing to lose games to prove a point.  A 50/50 shot at whether Angel is awesome or quits is better than a mediocre Angel.

[michigancat]

Wooly benched Travis Reynolds to prove a point. Therefore, Frank = Wooly.

[catzacker]

Jfc.  Wooly wasn't a piece of crap coach because he didn't bench larry reid, he was a piece of crap coach because the vest he could recruit was larry reid.  Benching angel is fine if frank could land someone else besides will spradling or tay.  Also, it's rough ridin' awful coaching/development if the only way you can prove a point is during games instead of practice.

He wouldn't have the balls to bench Larry Reid.  Its a powerful thing to be willing to lose games to prove a point.  A 50/50 shot at whether Angel is awesome or quits is better than a mediocre Angel.

It's not powerful, it's lazy, unimaginative coaching.

[sonofdaxjones]

24 hours later, proud of Frank, his highly mature form of discipline is going to pay off for these kids . . . it may not be tomorrow, or next week, but down the line . . . huge.

[sys]

all coaches bench players.  it's really about the only weapon coaches have (but it's hugely powerful).  martin just is a little more extreme than most.

['taterblast]

FYFM