Stats from a pathetic performance

[slimz]

We did not lose last night because of a talent differential between KSU and KU.   KU played better basketball, but overall they did not have better players (prob not worse either).

I don't disagree with this, but KU did have the best player on the court, and that makes a difference. But overall there isn't a big discrepancy. I think we should beat them in Manhattan.

KU's guards' athleticism caused problems for all of our guards except Tay. I felt like our players were playing better than KU's (except for Robinson) headed into the game, but KU's athleticism + effort overcame their guards' carelessness with the ball and poorer shooting than you expect from KU guards. They made up for their inconsistent shooting by blowing by our guards for layups, getting o-boards, and locking down defensively. It was a fine display of using superior athleticism/strength/effort to overcome shaky jump shooting--a page right out of K-State's playbook.

I expect a K-State win in Manhattan, due to improved effort by the Cats and the decreased comfort level of the shaky KU guards in the OOD.

[michigancat]

I blame the refs

[michigancat]

Also, Taylor is far better than any of our guards.

[CNS]

Also, Taylor is far better than any of our guards.

"you would be hard pressed to find 5 better in the country"...

[nicname]

Heh. Its funny how people think I'm overreacting here; people should know by not I don't tend to overreact. Its one thing to go to Allen Field House and get beat badly, that's happened plenty. However, this was a historical beat down on the boards unlike we've ever seen under Frank. I probably overdo it, but the stat I look at constantly is Offensive Rebounding Percentage. KU was at 57%, we were at 27%. The margin there is 30% better for KU. In Frank's tenure that is the worst margin ever, and its not even close. The next worst was a 13.5% margin vs Loyola Chicago. Only 5 times have Frank's teams even allowed a team to be 10% better on OR%, but last night KU was 30% better on offensive rebounds. I'm sorry if that's inexcusable to me.

It's disappointing because we all know that to beat KU at their place we are going to have to "out effort" them for loose balls and on the glass.  We didn't even come close.

[MakeItRain]

Also, Taylor is far better than any of our guards.

He is the absolute polar opposite of Will Spradling, I wonder how I would react to Taylor if he was our point guard.  He's played 8 games against BCS conference teams he has 45 assists and 39 turnovers in those games.  He's 35-86 from the field and this includes a 8-10 shooting performance against USF and a 9 assist 2 TO game against USC.  If included LBSU and Davidson these numbers would be much worse.  To me this is borderline unacceptable for a senior point guard that has played a siginificant role for 4 seasons.  I love guys with the ball that make things happen but holy hell he's careless.  I'd expect when Will and Angel are seniors they wouldn't have numbers like Taylor's, but he's undoubtedly talented.

[sonofdaxjones]

Also, Taylor is far better than any of our guards.

Nothing another 7 footer can't cure.

[j@yh@wks]

Also, Taylor is far better than any of our guards.

He is the absolute polar opposite of Will Spradling, I wonder how I would react to Taylor if he was our point guard.  He's played 8 games against BCS conference teams he has 45 assists and 39 turnovers in those games.  He's 35-86 from the field and this includes a 8-10 shooting performance against USF and a 9 assist 2 TO game against USC.  If included LBSU and Davidson these numbers would be much worse.  To me this is borderline unacceptable for a senior point guard that has played a siginificant role for 4 seasons.  I love guys with the ball that make things happen but holy hell he's careless.  I'd expect when Will and Angel are seniors they wouldn't have numbers like Taylor's, but he's undoubtedly talented.

agree with all of that.  never really been a fan of his, he always does something stupid in each and every game.  Sometimes multiple times a game.  I just really don't know who else to put in there.  I'll go with the company line and say "at least he plays aggressive"   

[CNS]

Also, Taylor is far better than any of our guards.

He is the absolute polar opposite of Will Spradling, I wonder how I would react to Taylor if he was our point guard.  He's played 8 games against BCS conference teams he has 45 assists and 39 turnovers in those games.  He's 35-86 from the field and this includes a 8-10 shooting performance against USF and a 9 assist 2 TO game against USC.  If included LBSU and Davidson these numbers would be much worse.  To me this is borderline unacceptable for a senior point guard that has played a siginificant role for 4 seasons.  I love guys with the ball that make things happen but holy hell he's careless.  I'd expect when Will and Angel are seniors they wouldn't have numbers like Taylor's, but he's undoubtedly talented.

agree with all of that.  never really been a fan of his, he always does something stupid in each and every game.  Sometimes multiple times a game.  I just really don't know who else to put in there.  I'll go with the company line and say "at least he plays aggressive"   

That is where I always landed on 95.   

[the KHAN!]

Does anyone have a screen cap of that goggles KU fan cheering.

Would really like.

TIA

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Does anyone have a screen cap of that goggles KU fan cheering.

Would really like.

TIA

Remind me in a few days if nobody's posted it by then.