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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #775 on: January 23, 2012, 01:14:49 PM »
Didn't Coffeeville have a perty good defense last year?  What's that ole boys name what ran their defense?  You could probably grab that without having to open the purse strings too much.
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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #776 on: January 23, 2012, 01:24:07 PM »
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Kansas State: We hear that Air Force defensive coordinator Matt Wallerstedt will interview for the defensive coordinator position.

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am I the only one that has a blind hatred for any and all coaches that were on Princes staff?  Really don't care to see any of them back here ever again.  :shakesfist:

I still like Morris, Franklin,  Wallerstedt, Horton, and probably more.

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #777 on: January 23, 2012, 01:37:10 PM »
i wish we could hire the prince guy with the weird eye.  would take, definitely would take.


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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #778 on: January 23, 2012, 01:39:52 PM »
base hit, his defenses have not been very good the last two years.  But at least he has experience and having kstaters is a plus IMO.

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #779 on: January 23, 2012, 01:42:01 PM »
base hit, his defenses have not been very good the last two years.  But at least he has experience and having kstaters is a plus IMO.

You realize that he does this with kids that go to the Air Force Academy, right?  They don't actually "recruit" for football.  They recruit football players that want to kill people with jets.

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Wallerstedt's defense was outstanding last year, finishing third in the conference in scoring (21.1) and fourth in total defense (349.3). The group was second in the MWC and nationally in passing defense with a 147.8 norm.

He was also instrumental in developing one of the top defenses in Air Force history in 2009. The team led the conference and ranked fifth nationally in pass defense with a 154.3 mark. The unit was second in the MWC and 11th in the nation in total defense allowing just 288.3 yards per game. The team was second in the MWC and 10th nationally in scoring defense with a 15.7 norm, which is the best mark in school history since 1998. The defense also scored five touchdowns in 2009.

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #780 on: January 23, 2012, 01:50:33 PM »
Not mad at a Wallerstedt hire - but I think it's right there with a Jim Leavitt with no HCIW promise.  I'd be content with either.   Light years better than Cosh.
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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #781 on: January 23, 2012, 01:54:04 PM »
Yeah, AFA played a pretty rough schedule, too. TCU, Boise, BYU, Notre Dame.

My only question is if we would run the 3-4 he runs now.

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #782 on: January 23, 2012, 01:57:07 PM »
Yeah, AFA played a pretty rough schedule, too. TCU, Boise, BYU, Notre Dame.

My only question is if we would run the 3-4 he runs now.
I really hope not.  Hate 3-4, although that is only because I associate it with our awful defenses under RP.

We did run a 3-4 under RP for a year or two, right?


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Re: Cosh/Venzy/DC Master Thread
« Reply #783 on: January 23, 2012, 01:57:49 PM »
He's a good hire. Just not the good hires we wanted. Miles ahead of billy bob and hayes, though.

He's a solid double to the gap.  Not a home run, but better than your average base hit.

So he's our Billy Butler? I'm ok with that, would be a good hire. Just not the excitement I was hoping for either.

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #784 on: January 23, 2012, 02:18:46 PM »
I'd say Wallerstedt would be a very good hire. Not Leavitt/Venzy, but not a huge drop either. Plus, I like that he has pretty good special teams experience, which could be a help to the current guy.

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #785 on: January 23, 2012, 02:25:06 PM »
I'd say Wallerstedt would be a very good hire. Not Leavitt/Venzy, but not a huge drop either. Plus, I like that he has pretty good special teams experience, which could be a help to the current guy.

He wasn't a horrible recruiter, either.

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #786 on: January 23, 2012, 02:27:09 PM »
I'd say Wallerstedt would be a very good hire. Not Leavitt/Venzy, but not a huge drop either. Plus, I like that he has pretty good special teams experience, which could be a help to the current guy.

He wasn't a horrible recruiter, either.

Who did he bring in?

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #787 on: January 23, 2012, 02:30:38 PM »
I'd say Wallerstedt would be a very good hire. Not Leavitt/Venzy, but not a huge drop either. Plus, I like that he has pretty good special teams experience, which could be a help to the current guy.

He wasn't a horrible recruiter, either.

Who did he bring in?

Let me rephrase that.  Compared to who we have now, he wasn't horrible.

I know he brought in Alesana Squared, Deon Murphy, and a few other guys.  He was the recruiting coordinator in 2006, too.  I just remember his name being attached to several different guys, but Rivals doesn't show it.

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Re: Cosh/Venzy/DC Master Thread
« Reply #788 on: January 23, 2012, 03:02:03 PM »
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Kansas State: We hear that Air Force defensive coordinator Matt Wallerstedt will interview for the defensive coordinator position.

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am I the only one that has a blind hatred for any and all coaches that were on Princes staff?  Really don't care to see any of them back here ever again.  :shakesfist:

no, tons of old dumbasses have that same blind hatred. 

I am old and a dumbass so it is good to see I'm agreeing with my demographic.

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #789 on: January 23, 2012, 04:48:14 PM »
Yeah, AFA played a pretty rough schedule, too. TCU, Boise, BYU, Notre Dame.

My only question is if we would run the 3-4 he runs now.
I really hope not.  Hate 3-4, although that is only because I associate it with our awful defenses under RP.

We did run a 3-4 under RP for a year or two, right?

We did and count me as one that hopes we don't try to run a 3-4 unless someone can convince me we can get the DL needed to run it.

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #790 on: January 23, 2012, 05:09:36 PM »
wally loves k-state/manhattan, absolutely hated prince

Sweet. We want people that WANT to be here.



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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #791 on: January 23, 2012, 05:31:01 PM »
Did Wally run the 3-4 at AFA?

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #793 on: January 23, 2012, 06:33:09 PM »
can't wait to call him lollerstadt when his defense doesn't improve.
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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #794 on: January 23, 2012, 07:04:18 PM »
Anyone who bailed on Ron sounds good to me. Too bad Raheem is too big timey (also probably hates manhattan).

I am enthused about Wally but will melt down if he tries to run a 3-4 again.

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #795 on: January 23, 2012, 09:05:37 PM »
Yes, I am sure better players mean every defense is better but it is hard enough for KSU-type programs  to find two 300ish bodies that can play, let alone three with one being a immovable object at the nose. 

Hell, Saban's 3-4 at Alabama uses a 6-2, 265 linebacker/DE hybrid - most of our DE's are lighter than that

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« Reply #796 on: January 23, 2012, 09:13:12 PM »
Yes, I am sure better players mean every defense is better but it is hard enough for KSU-type programs  to find two 300ish bodies that can play, let alone three with one being a immovable object at the nose. 

Hell, Saban's 3-4 at Alabama uses a 6-2, 265 linebacker/DE hybrid - most of our DE's are lighter than that

NFL teams struggle to find the personnel to run it.

It's the greatest defense, theoretically, but finding one that works is like hunting down a white tiger.

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« Reply #797 on: January 23, 2012, 09:54:02 PM »
Yes, I am sure better players mean every defense is better but it is hard enough for KSU-type programs  to find two 300ish bodies that can play, let alone three with one being a immovable object at the nose. 

Hell, Saban's 3-4 at Alabama uses a 6-2, 265 linebacker/DE hybrid - most of our DE's are lighter than that

This.

3-4 defenses don't work in college, except at places like LSU and Alabama.

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« Reply #798 on: January 23, 2012, 11:02:44 PM »
Yes, I am sure better players mean every defense is better but it is hard enough for KSU-type programs  to find two 300ish bodies that can play, let alone three with one being a immovable object at the nose. 

Hell, Saban's 3-4 at Alabama uses a 6-2, 265 linebacker/DE hybrid - most of our DE's are lighter than that

This.

3-4 defenses don't work in college, except at places like LSU and Alabama.
Places that can pull in those giant dlinemen from the south.

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Re: K-State DC Thread
« Reply #799 on: January 24, 2012, 12:19:05 PM »
a Colorado Springs radio station is allegedly claiming it's Wally