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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2011, 10:07:44 AM »
So many times in the second half, Sprads and McOrebs would have the ball at the top of the arc, and you'd think "Here's where they're going to pull back and hit a three, just like Pullen would"   :frown:

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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2011, 10:13:31 AM »
Peggy Po:

Bee Beard Guy and his Super Serious Hoodie Friend. Enjoyed these two all night. Almost as much as Court-Side High-Fiving Old Guys (and only a few notches more than Waving-My-Arms-So-Let's-Make-Some-Noise-Guy (who looked like he was probably a rock climber or something. Very lean and muscly looking).



great points, fr. I thought Bee Beard Guy was the lead singer from Band of Horses  :horrorsurprise:


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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2011, 10:15:35 AM »
Kevin Jones is a top 50 recruit and a senior.

I generally like not calling timeouts at end of games. Coaches generally outhink themselves. And IIRC, we got a bad shot and a slightly above average shot from the not calling a TO possession. I think,

Of course, Frank got a great look for Rod out of a TO at the end of the game, but still.

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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2011, 10:21:11 AM »
Kevin Jones is a top 50 recruit and a senior.

I generally like not calling timeouts at end of games. Coaches generally outhink themselves. And IIRC, we got a bad shot and a slightly above average shot from the not calling a TO possession. I think,

Of course, Frank got a great look for Rod out of a TO at the end of the game, but still.

McGrud's last two shots were excellent shots. I didn't really have a problem with not calling TO, Huggs made a great move by going to the 1-3-1 in that situation.

There have been plenty of legit complaints about Samuels, but losing him on the questionable charge with 2 minutes left really hurt us. And having him only play 20 minutes all night didn't help either. Granted, at least of his 3 fouls were probably good calls. It would've been nice to have him to guard Jones on the last possession and as another offensive rebounding threat in both OTs.


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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2011, 10:23:12 AM »
Anybody else have a meltdown when Shane stole WV's inbound pass and drove coast-to-coast? But then he made the layup; no meltdown necessary  :gocho:  (until later)

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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #30 on: December 09, 2011, 11:15:02 AM »
PPs:

We had great effort for 40 minutes (no wait, 50 minutes). Could definitely tell the team was amped and ready to go. Granted, we didn't have a good offensive performance, but the involvement and effort was present, esp. in the first half, where it's been lacking.

Gip, while showing signs of being inexperienced and making some mistakes, held it together, played good minutes for a long time w/o picking up the 5th foul, and was great in the final minutes of reg. and OTs. Continue to be very impressed and excited about him.

Sprads... totally surprised when he fouled out -- guess I was not paying attention to how many fouls he committed, but he's a PP because he was the only consistent (mostly) offensive threat from our guards, and having him out hurt even more than Samuel's IMO. Didn't score much late, but also WV was playing some pretty good D as well -- didn't make a lot of mistakes.

Team defense. This goes along w/ the effort point, but it's worth noting that we played quite well defensively for most of the game. Good sign.

Martin's coaching. Thought he did overall a good job (did want him to call a TO at the end of regulation, but oh well), finding ways to exploit the zone in the OTs, with layups underneath, etc. Well coached on both sides.

NNs

Gruds' inconsistency. His inability to hit the available shots at the end cost us the game. Granted he was aggressive and kept us in it with a great lay-in in OT, but the key word is inconsistent. His shot may very well come around, but it was  disappointing to see him miss the great shot Martin got him out of the TO especially. Hard to bag on him too much... just hope for his game to get ironed out more as the season goes on.

Samuels' lack of improvement. Yeah, same ol' Samuels. Good to have on the team, no doubt, but leaving a lot of untapped potential out there, and disappointing not to see more maturity and leadership as a senior.

JO. Had a few really good plays defensively, but we obviously needed more from him.

Seriously, guys. Make layups. Please.

Jury still out

Angel. Potential, and flashes of greatness. Still early.
Diaz. Could develop into a good role player. Prolly take some time.

Summary

Really enjoyed this game, actually. I mean, very entertaining, hard-fought, JYC intensity, double OT, good coaching, etc. Was disappointed that we couldn't pull it off at the end, but thought the game really came down to WV making a number of clutch baskets, while we couldn't quite match that offensively. Tough loss, but valuable experience at this point in the season.

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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #31 on: December 09, 2011, 11:18:56 AM »
I noticed earlier in the season that Diaz has creepily small hands. He is tall and has long arms but his hands are smaller than Angel's. It's all I can think about when he is on the court.

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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2011, 11:26:50 AM »
I know we lost, but my happiness over Gipson is overshadowing it. I just love that big guy.
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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #33 on: December 09, 2011, 11:32:30 AM »
I noticed earlier in the season that Diaz has creepily small hands. He is tall and has long arms but his hands are smaller than Angel's. It's all I can think about when he is on the court.

You know what they say about small hands?   :peek:

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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2011, 12:09:10 PM »
Peggy Po: Huggy Bear's Daughter

Nancy Neg: Frank destroying guys at critical points of the game.  I'm not sure he takes non-con games seriously.


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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2011, 12:23:06 PM »
PPs:

We had great effort for 40 minutes (no wait, 50 minutes). Could definitely tell the team was amped and ready to go. Granted, we didn't have a good offensive performance, but the involvement and effort was present, esp. in the first half, where it's been lacking.

Gip, while showing signs of being inexperienced and making some mistakes, held it together, played good minutes for a long time w/o picking up the 5th foul, and was great in the final minutes of reg. and OTs. Continue to be very impressed and excited about him.

Sprads... totally surprised when he fouled out -- guess I was not paying attention to how many fouls he committed, but he's a PP because he was the only consistent (mostly) offensive threat from our guards, and having him out hurt even more than Samuel's IMO. Didn't score much late, but also WV was playing some pretty good D as well -- didn't make a lot of mistakes.

Team defense. This goes along w/ the effort point, but it's worth noting that we played quite well defensively for most of the game. Good sign.

Martin's coaching. Thought he did overall a good job (did want him to call a TO at the end of regulation, but oh well), finding ways to exploit the zone in the OTs, with layups underneath, etc. Well coached on both sides.

NNs

Gruds' inconsistency. His inability to hit the available shots at the end cost us the game. Granted he was aggressive and kept us in it with a great lay-in in OT, but the key word is inconsistent. His shot may very well come around, but it was  disappointing to see him miss the great shot Martin got him out of the TO especially. Hard to bag on him too much... just hope for his game to get ironed out more as the season goes on.

Samuels' lack of improvement. Yeah, same ol' Samuels. Good to have on the team, no doubt, but leaving a lot of untapped potential out there, and disappointing not to see more maturity and leadership as a senior.

JO. Had a few really good plays defensively, but we obviously needed more from him.

Seriously, guys. Make layups. Please.

Jury still out

Angel. Potential, and flashes of greatness. Still early.
Diaz. Could develop into a good role player. Prolly take some time.

Summary

Really enjoyed this game, actually. I mean, very entertaining, hard-fought, JYC intensity, double OT, good coaching, etc. Was disappointed that we couldn't pull it off at the end, but thought the game really came down to WV making a number of clutch baskets, while we couldn't quite match that offensively. Tough loss, but valuable experience at this point in the season.

Maybe he just sucks.  I mean, it seems more often than not people make up excuses for why he had a bad game.  Maybe he just kind of sucks and gets lucky a few games a year.  :dunno:

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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2011, 12:45:04 PM »
I want to be done with Jamar, I really do. But....the Okie St. Sprint game....I can't!

Also, this is probably where _FAN steps in with all his JYC stats, but I was begging us to take quicker shots in the latter part of the 2nd half. There was a stretch where we constantly turned it over either via moving screens, charges, or whatever, and I was like, "Please, Sprads or McOrebs, just pull up for a damn jumper early in the shot clock! Get a freaking shot up!"

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« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2011, 01:09:18 PM »
I want to be done with Jamar, I really do. But....the Okie St. Sprint game....I can't!

Also, this is probably where _FAN steps in with all his JYC stats, but I was begging us to take quicker shots in the latter part of the 2nd half. There was a stretch where we constantly turned it over either via moving screens, charges, or whatever, and I was like, "Please, Sprads or McOrebs, just pull up for a damn jumper early in the shot clock! Get a freaking shot up!"

I can't/won't give up on Jamar. Again, it really hurt that he had so much foul trouble and only played 20 minutes. And even if he struggled at times, we really need him the last 2 minutes of regulation and both OTs.

I don't necessarily disagree with those two getting some more shots up. You can't get an offensive rebound if no one shots it, and we o-boarded really well the entire 2nd half.

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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2011, 01:30:42 PM »
Kevin Jones is a top 50 recruit and a senior.

I generally like not calling timeouts at end of games. Coaches generally outhink themselves. And IIRC, we got a bad shot and a slightly above average shot from the not calling a TO possession. I think,

Of course, Frank got a great look for Rod out of a TO at the end of the game, but still.

Think this was actually a broken play.  Angel was supposed set a pick on Rodney's man so he could run through a double pick towards the camera.  Instead, Rodney waits for Angel...Angel doesn't come so Rodney kinda shrugs his shoulders and runs the other way around Gipson for the three attempt.  This was followed by Frank screaming "where you rough ridin' going, Angel".  Anywho...carry on.  
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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #41 on: December 09, 2011, 01:54:04 PM »
Samuels is a fine player. You're all just dumb for expecting him to be All Big 12 or something.

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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #42 on: December 09, 2011, 02:03:53 PM »
Think this was actually a broken play.  

I believe he was talking about the 3 just before that.

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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #43 on: December 09, 2011, 02:04:59 PM »
PP:

Overall the Cats destroyed the 1-3-1 zone.

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« Reply #44 on: December 09, 2011, 02:17:13 PM »
Samuels is a fine player. You're all just dumb for expecting him to be All Big 12 or something.

I love the Rustys of the world pretending they never expected him to be All Big 12. So, so transparent.

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« Reply #45 on: December 09, 2011, 02:45:53 PM »
Samuels is a fine player. You're all just dumb for expecting him to be All Big 12 or something.

I love the Rustys of the world pretending they never expected him to be All Big 12. So, so transparent.

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« Reply #46 on: December 09, 2011, 02:55:22 PM »
Samuels is a fine player. You're all just dumb for expecting him to be All Big 12 or something.

I love the Rustys of the world pretending they never expected him to be All Big 12. So, so transparent.

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i think he's meaning deep down inside, where there would be no link.  just a cold soul.

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« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2011, 03:00:10 PM »
Samuels is a fine player. You're all just dumb for expecting him to be All Big 12 or something.

I love the Rustys of the world pretending they never expected him to be All Big 12. So, so transparent.

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i think he's meaning deep down inside, where there would be no link.  just a cold soul.

I'm very happy w/ Jamar. I mean he's a 6-7 skinny power forward. He ain't Kevin Jones.

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Re: Game 6: WV Wichita Peggy Po's / Nancy Neg's
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2011, 03:05:36 PM »
Last night is what you're going to get a lot based on what's going on out on the recruiting trail.


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« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2011, 03:11:31 PM »
Samuels is a fine player. You're all just dumb for expecting him to be All Big 12 or something.

I love the Rustys of the world pretending they never expected him to be All Big 12. So, so transparent.

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i think he's meaning deep down inside, where there would be no link.  just a cold soul.

I'm very happy w/ Jamar. I mean he's a 6-7 skinny power forward. He ain't Kevin Jones.

I have a  hard time with what reasonable expectations should be.  This is the difficulty with recruiting a bunch of 3*’s.  The varying end results are mind boggling.  One ends up being your all time leading scorer and another ends up playing for LaMonroe.   

I suppose it’s too much to (now) expect jamar to be an all big 12 caliber player…but was it ever too much?  Cause, like, if we can’t expect all big 12’ers out of the collection of 3*’s frank runs out there, then how do we expect to ever win…anything?