mother of 19 goes for 20, god says "nah"

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think most people would know what to do with their children who sexually abuse other children. There should honestly be a guide somewhere for people like the Duggars in the future. (If there isn't already). They should be reported to police but I don't think putting them in prison for life is necessarily the right thing to do.

I think prison is a bit much, but a juvenile detention facility, with a lot of therapy, makes sense. Kids who molest their sibling should go to a foster home after that, too.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

What is your opinion on what should happen to somebody else's 14 year old son who molests your daughter?

If it was my daughter, I'd obviously feel different. I'd want to cut his nuts off. I would not expect the parents of the girl to agree with my desire to protect my son. That doesn't mean I'm going to judge a parent too harshly for wanting to do just that. In the Duggars case, the children were both the perpetrator and victims. It's a tough place to be. None of that changes my approach.

[Rage Against the McKee]

What is your opinion on what should happen to somebody else's 14 year old son who molests your daughter?

If it was my daughter, I'd obviously feel different. I'd want to cut his nuts off. I would not expect the parents if the girl to agree with my desire to protect my son. That doesn't mean I'm going to judge a parent too harshly for wanting to do just that. In the Duggars case, the children were both the perpetrator and victims. It's a tough place to be. None of that changes my approach.

You would have to get the son out of the house if they were both your kids. I mean you can't just expect the girl to have to live with that monster for her entire childhood.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

I don't think most people would know what to do with their children who sexually abuse other children. There should honestly be a guide somewhere for people like the Duggars in the future. (If there isn't already). They should be reported to police but I don't think putting them in prison for life is necessarily the right thing to do.

I think prison is a bit much, but a juvenile detention facility, with a lot of therapy, makes sense. Kids who molest their sibling should go to a foster home after that, too.

See, it's really easy to say stuff like this hypothetically. I bet you wouldn't really do it though.

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

What is your opinion on what should happen to somebody else's 14 year old son who molests your daughter?

If it was my daughter, I'd obviously feel different. I'd want to cut his nuts off. I would not expect the parents if the girl to agree with my desire to protect my son. That doesn't mean I'm going to judge a parent too harshly for wanting to do just that. In the Duggars case, the children were both the perpetrator and victims. It's a tough place to be. None of that changes my approach.

You would have to get the son out of the house if they were both your kids. I mean you can't just expect the girl to have to live with that monster for her entire childhood.

I already said I'd do that, for a time, with counseling. I would not put him "in the system." It is not a benevolent or rehabilitative system. It is a system filled with overzealous loons like the woman quoted in the article above comparing this case to sodomizing a child at knifepoint.

[steve dave]

KSUW I'd like to know your reaction for incident 1 (I think you've described this already), 2, and 3. Also, obviously, I'd like to know the reaction for your own daughters/sons who are victims (or cousins or whatever happened here, I haven't followed outside of this thread). 

[K-S-U-Wildcats!]

KSUW I'd like to know your reaction for incident 1 (I think you've described this already), 2, and 3. Also, obviously, I'd like to know the reaction for your own daughters/sons who are victims (or cousins or whatever happened here, I haven't followed outside of this thread).

What's 1 2 and 3? I think I missed something.

[michigancat]

I don't think most people would know what to do with their children who sexually abuse other children. There should honestly be a guide somewhere for people like the Duggars in the future. (If there isn't already). They should be reported to police but I don't think putting them in prison for life is necessarily the right thing to do.

I think prison is a bit much, but a juvenile detention facility, with a lot of therapy, makes sense. Kids who molest their sibling should go to a foster home after that, too.

The thing about kids is they're basically idiots without fully developed brains and aren't necessarily monsters. Being removed from the family and receiving treatment for a period of time is a must, but I don't think being put in the foster care system would ever be a good idea for a teenage sex offender. I think there are cases where the offender could return to the family, while other cases where they shouldn't.

[8manpick]

KSUW I'd like to know your reaction for incident 1 (I think you've described this already), 2, and 3. Also, obviously, I'd like to know the reaction for your own daughters/sons who are victims (or cousins or whatever happened here, I haven't followed outside of this thread).

What's 1 2 and 3? I think I missed something.

He was caught on three separate occasions by his parents

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't think most people would know what to do with their children who sexually abuse other children. There should honestly be a guide somewhere for people like the Duggars in the future. (If there isn't already). They should be reported to police but I don't think putting them in prison for life is necessarily the right thing to do.

I think prison is a bit much, but a juvenile detention facility, with a lot of therapy, makes sense. Kids who molest their sibling should go to a foster home after that, too.

The thing about kids is they're basically idiots without fully developed brains and aren't necessarily monsters. Being removed from the family and receiving treatment for a period of time is a must, but I don't think being put in the foster care system would ever be a good idea for a teenage sex offender. I think there are cases where the offender could return to the family, while other cases where they shouldn't.

That would definitely be best for the offender, but I think that would be traumatizing for the victim.

[Rage Against the McKee]

What is your opinion on what should happen to somebody else's 14 year old son who molests your daughter?

If it was my daughter, I'd obviously feel different. I'd want to cut his nuts off. I would not expect the parents if the girl to agree with my desire to protect my son. That doesn't mean I'm going to judge a parent too harshly for wanting to do just that. In the Duggars case, the children were both the perpetrator and victims. It's a tough place to be. None of that changes my approach.

You would have to get the son out of the house if they were both your kids. I mean you can't just expect the girl to have to live with that monster for her entire childhood.

I already said I'd do that, for a time, with counseling. I would not put him "in the system." It is not a benevolent or rehabilitative system. It is a system filled with overzealous loons like the woman quoted in the article above comparing this case to sodomizing a child at knifepoint.

If that other kid's victim were just 5 years old, he wouldn't have needed a knife, either.

[michigancat]

I don't think most people would know what to do with their children who sexually abuse other children. There should honestly be a guide somewhere for people like the Duggars in the future. (If there isn't already). They should be reported to police but I don't think putting them in prison for life is necessarily the right thing to do.

I think prison is a bit much, but a juvenile detention facility, with a lot of therapy, makes sense. Kids who molest their sibling should go to a foster home after that, too.

The thing about kids is they're basically idiots without fully developed brains and aren't necessarily monsters. Being removed from the family and receiving treatment for a period of time is a must, but I don't think being put in the foster care system would ever be a good idea for a teenage sex offender. I think there are cases where the offender could return to the family, while other cases where they shouldn't.

That would definitely be best for the offender, but I think that would be traumatizing for the victim.

Depends on the situation. Obviously the mental state of the victim should be top concern. Well, unless you're a Duggar.

[CNS]

WWJD?

[puniraptor]

WWJD?

And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

[sys]

if i learned anything from years of loveline, it's that the "monsters" that molest other children are typically themselves victims of similar abuse.  i doubt if this started or ended with the one kid that was caught.

ksuw, you are misreading the article you posted.  the pro public authorities woman is not comparing the duggar kid's molestations to raping a sibling at knifepoint.  she's doing the exact opposite, she is providing an example of how wide the range of behaviors are that can be classified similarly legally.  in her mind, this makes the point that authorities, rather than parents, are best able to choose punishments and treatments that suit the actions of a given juvenile offender.

[sys]

Depends on the situation. Obviously the mental state of the victim should be top concern. Well, unless you're a Duggar.

it's much easier for parents to craft a response that's in the best interest of all their children when the parents have no more than one child.

[michigancat]

if i learned anything from years of loveline, it's that the "monsters" that molest other children are typically themselves victims of similar abuse.  i doubt if this started or ended with the one kid that was caught.

ksuw, you are misreading the article you posted.  the pro public authorities woman is not comparing the duggar kid's molestations to raping a sibling at knifepoint.  she's doing the exact opposite, she is providing an example of how wide the range of behaviors are that can be classified similarly legally.  in her mind, this makes the point that authorities, rather than parents, are best able to choose punishments and treatments that suit the actions of a given juvenile offender.

That article also brought up a great point that reporting abuse to authorities can often uncover abuse of the abuser, which is common as you've learned from love line.

[Pete]

Depends on the situation. Obviously the mental state of the victim should be top concern. Well, unless you're a Duggar.

it's much easier for parents to craft a response that's in the best interest of all their children when the parents have no more than one child.

Fair point

[Pete]

KSUW I'd like to know your reaction for incident 1 (I think you've described this already), 2, and 3. Also, obviously, I'd like to know the reaction for your own daughters/sons who are victims (or cousins or whatever happened here, I haven't followed outside of this thread).

What's 1 2 and 3? I think I missed something.

He was caught on three separate occasions by his parents

Let's give everyone a clean sheet on this. 

What would YOU do on the FOURTH occasion of learning that your kid sexually molested your other kid(s)?

Maybe we can ALL come to an agreement on the best approach to addressing the FOURTH time your kid(s) get sexually molested?

[8manpick]

Probably a stern talking to and an hour cleaning the bathrooms in the house

[Spracne]

These are hard choices for loving people... almost as hard as Josh Duggar at a family reunion.

[The Big Train]

 

[Dugout DickStone]

These are hard choices for loving people... almost as hard as Josh Duggar at a family reunion.

He won't be invited if he ends up costing them their gravy train

[Headinjun]

I see KSU is all concerned about people being caught up in the system. I wonder if he has changed his opinion on petty drug possession crimes.

[ksupamplemousse]

I see KSU is all concerned about people being caught up in the system. I wonder if he has changed his opinion on petty drug possession crimes.

Man, I'm so excited for the answer to this question.