_FANalysis: Arkansas Offense, Defense and STs by the numbers

[kslim]

Nice write up, _FAN.

One thing you mentioned is how we are the worst team in the league allowing tackles for loss. While this is true, it's also a little misleading due to our heavy run-oriented offense in a pass-dominated league. We lead the league in rushing attempts (566), followed by Texas (554), Kansas (543), and Missouri (542). All 4 teams are (not surpisingly) in the bottom half of the Big12 for allowing tackles for loss. Truth is we are rather bad at giving up TFL, but it's not an astronomical figure, we just give up more because we run more.

Good points. We also gave up by far the most sacks (36) on by far the fewest attempts (260). Our line is solid in run blocking, but not very good in pass protection. Granted, Klein tends to hold onto the ball quite a bit, but we have quite a few player up front that tend to get beat (often badly) in one on one pass blocking situations. Of course the Big 12 has some pretty good pass rushers as well.

hubert running sideline to sideline 82% of the time doesnt help either

It will be very interesting to see how Arkansas handles our stretch read option. I'm sure they've seen plenty of zone read option, but our version of stretch read is fairly unique. I haven't watched enough SEC football to know if anyone does it much there though.

I hope we run more formations with Hubert split out and motion him to the mesh point too. Puts a little more pressure on a defense and really doesn't change much for the offense.

personally and this is my two cents, we need to start off by pease banging off tackle and guard to wear them down a bit, then go zone read and spread read. those guys are fast and play even faster. the speed is going to be the biggest challenge and we need to wear them down quickly

[kso_FAN]

personally and this is my two cents, we need to start off by pease banging off tackle and guard to wear them down a bit, then go zone read and spread read. those guys are fast and play even faster. the speed is going to be the biggest challenge and we need to wear them down quickly

I agree, I've been wanting to see Pease run some power football all year, but I'm not sold it will happen. For whatever reason Snyder only seems to trust Pease in the Wildcat, and after the fumble against aTm we haven't seen even that. Even running power with Hubert, which is what finally got us going against ISU, would be nice to start the game with.

[ShoelessWes]

It will be very interesting to see how Arkansas handles our stretch read option. I'm sure they've seen plenty of zone read option, but our version of stretch read is fairly unique. I haven't watched enough SEC football to know if anyone does it much there though.

I hope we run more formations with Hubert split out and motion him to the mesh point too. Puts a little more pressure on a defense and really doesn't change much for the offense.

Florida under Meyer ran it a little bit, fairly close to the KState version.  It complimented that veer/midline/pump stretch.  It was neither excellent nor shut down.  KState likes to read the ends and we've got two very brainy guys back there.  Bequette won't pop up in the stat sheet as one of the best in the SEC, but that's because he had some injury issues midseason.  He'll be a playmaker in the game, big time.  If the option kills us, it will be our secondary wiffing when the LB pushes the option to the edge.  A trademark of Willie Robinson defenses. :-(

Our run fits are not very good in the interior run game.  Keep it between the tackles, every once in a while stretch the defense to the perimeter, and play action pass.  Passing downs we will tee off on you and I'm not sure how many times Klein will get up after Bequette hits him.  I don't think it will come to that, because you guys will run all over us, but if it becomes a passing down game, Bequette will hurt Klein.

Bequette is 7th in the nation in sacks and did so without even playing 3 games and being horribly injured in one game and still being a trooper out there.

[ShoelessWes]

personally and this is my two cents, we need to start off by pease banging off tackle and guard to wear them down a bit, then go zone read and spread read. those guys are fast and play even faster. the speed is going to be the biggest challenge and we need to wear them down quickly

Yes sir!   Make your cake the inside running game and the outside/pa the frosting and sprinkles.  If they do that, KState may not punt all day.

For some reason the PR teams we have played this year have come out of the gates trying to throw on us, it is down right silly.  Just pound us.  Don't make it too complicated.

[kso_FAN]

Florida under Meyer ran it a little bit, fairly close to the KState version.  It complimented that veer/midline/pump stretch.  It was neither excellent nor shut down.  KState likes to read the ends and we've got two very brainy guys back there.  Bequette won't pop up in the stat sheet as one of the best in the SEC, but that's because he had some injury issues midseason.  He'll be a playmaker in the game, big time.  If the option kills us, it will be our secondary wiffing when the LB pushes the option to the edge.  A trademark of Willie Robinson defenses. :-(

Our run fits are not very good in the interior run game.  Keep it between the tackles, every once in a while stretch the defense to the perimeter, and play action pass.  Passing downs we will tee off on you and I'm not sure how many times Klein will get up after Bequette hits him.  I don't think it will come to that, because you guys will run all over us, but if it becomes a passing down game, Bequette will hurt Klein.

Bequette is 7th in the nation in sacks and did so without even playing 3 games and being horribly injured in one game and still being a trooper out there.

That is very encouraging to hear as a K-State fan. Klein is at his best running between the tackles and we run power football out of the I pretty effectively. I'm sure we'll see plenty of our single wing look too if that is the case.

[kso_FAN]

For some reason the PR teams we have played this year have come out of the gates trying to throw on us, it is down right silly.  Just pound us.  Don't make it too complicated.

Offensive coaches overanalyze and overcoach all the time. I hope we don't, but its likely we will at some point in the game.

[kslim]

personally and this is my two cents, we need to start off by pease banging off tackle and guard to wear them down a bit, then go zone read and spread read. those guys are fast and play even faster. the speed is going to be the biggest challenge and we need to wear them down quickly

Yes sir!   Make your cake the inside running game and the outside/pa the frosting and sprinkles.  If they do that, KState may not punt all day.

For some reason the PR teams we have played this year have come out of the gates trying to throw on us, it is down right silly.  Just pound us.  Don't make it too complicated.

oh we are going to pound the ball, im just not sure how and who with yet. klien could have 30 carries, even though he has done a 180 on passing this year, we actually might come out throwing

[ConHog]

personally and this is my two cents, we need to start off by pease banging off tackle and guard to wear them down a bit, then go zone read and spread read. those guys are fast and play even faster. the speed is going to be the biggest challenge and we need to wear them down quickly

Yes sir!   Make your cake the inside running game and the outside/pa the frosting and sprinkles.  If they do that, KState may not punt all day.

For some reason the PR teams we have played this year have come out of the gates trying to throw on us, it is down right silly.  Just pound us.  Don't make it too complicated.

Not so fast my friend. Let's not forget that Willy Robinson is gone. That could bring a change to our philosophy in time for the bowl game (one can only hope.)

Hopefully we put Jericho Nelson right behind Bequette and tell him that his only job is to demolish anyone carrying the ball. Don't go for strips, don't over pursue, don't miss tackles. Just stop the run.

[ShoelessWes]

Not so fast my friend. Let's not forget that Willy Robinson is gone. That could bring a change to our philosophy in time for the bowl game (one can only hope.)

Hopefully we put Jericho Nelson right behind Bequette and tell him that his only job is to demolish anyone carrying the ball. Don't go for strips, don't over pursue, don't miss tackles. Just stop the run.

I'm not a Willy(ie) fan, but if you think a first GAME DCoordinator will come in and fix our run fit problems after...

1. Having never worked a single down with a group that wasn't in the secondary.
2. Having only worked a few weeks with our defensive unit.
3. Having NEVER called defenses (he didn't call them at OSU, Jim Heacock did)

You are out ya mind, boy.  Don't be holding your breath for our defense to come out like gangbusters, because it won't happen.

[ConHog]

Not so fast my friend. Let's not forget that Willy Robinson is gone. That could bring a change to our philosophy in time for the bowl game (one can only hope.)

Hopefully we put Jericho Nelson right behind Bequette and tell him that his only job is to demolish anyone carrying the ball. Don't go for strips, don't over pursue, don't miss tackles. Just stop the run.

I'm not a Willy(ie) fan, but if you think a first GAME DCoordinator will come in and fix our run fit problems after...

1. Having never worked a single down with a group that wasn't in the secondary.
2. Having only worked a few weeks with our defensive unit.
3. Having NEVER called defenses (he didn't call them at OSU, Jim Heacock did)

You are out ya mind, boy.  Don't be holding your breath for our defense to come out like gangbusters, because it won't happen.

Oh no, I think we have a LONG ways to go before our defense is "fixed". I 'm more hoping for a bandaid in this game.

[gohogs14]

Not so fast my friend. Let's not forget that Willy Robinson is gone. That could bring a change to our philosophy in time for the bowl game (one can only hope.)

Hopefully we put Jericho Nelson right behind Bequette and tell him that his only job is to demolish anyone carrying the ball. Don't go for strips, don't over pursue, don't miss tackles. Just stop the run.

I'm not a Willy(ie) fan, but if you think a first GAME DCoordinator will come in and fix our run fit problems after...

1. Having never worked a single down with a group that wasn't in the secondary.
2. Having only worked a few weeks with our defensive unit.
3. Having NEVER called defenses (he didn't call them at OSU, Jim Heacock did)

You are out ya mind, boy.  Don't be holding your breath for our defense to come out like gangbusters, because it won't happen.

At his PC today he said he called plays the last 7 years at OSU...that made me wonder because i didnt think he did either

[ShoelessWes]

At his PC today he said he called plays the last 7 years at OSU...that made me wonder because i didnt think he did either

I don't know why he'd say that.  Maybe he meant calling coverage?  Some, not many but some, programs call "coverage-fit-front" in their defensive scheme.  I guess it would be reasonable to think maybe he was calling coverage.  Even then, when you watched the sidelines over that entire period of time,  Heacock was the one calling all the shots.

[Cire]

sounds like we will assrape arky.

[Sandstone Outcropping]

amazing content thanks _FAN

[ShoelessWes]

sounds like we will assrape arky.

Our play calling is like a better Texas A&M with better players.  We may not be able to slow you down, but don't be surprised to see Razorback wide receivers running free, wide open in your secondary.

[MarilynKay]

god has placed his mark on kstate fball's brow.  all the rest of this drivel is meaningless.

Wow!  Way to provide something of substance to the discussion.

While we have had difficult on the O-line, we also saw Tyler (Wilson) show some progress in running the ball himself when he was out of other options.  Did not see that in the early part of season.

[SwiftCat]

sounds like we will assrape arky.

Our play calling is like a better Texas A&M with better players.  We may not be able to slow you down, but don't be surprised to see Razorback wide receivers running free, wide open in your secondary.

If by secondary you mean 15 yards down the middle of the field, I will not be surprised at all.

[Stevesie60]

sounds like we will assrape arky.

Our play calling is like a better Texas A&M with better players.  We may not be able to slow you down, but don't be surprised to see Razorback wide receivers running free, wide open in your secondary.

All of 4 points better.

[gohogs14]

sounds like we will assrape arky.

Our play calling is like a better Texas A&M with better players.  We may not be able to slow you down, but don't be surprised to see Razorback wide receivers running free, wide open in your secondary.

All of 4 points better.

we had a lot of defensive injuries in that game fwiw

[ShoelessWes]

sounds like we will assrape arky.

Our play calling is like a better Texas A&M with better players.  We may not be able to slow you down, but don't be surprised to see Razorback wide receivers running free, wide open in your secondary.

All of 4 points better.

we had a lot of defensive injuries in that game fwiw

Including a top 10 defensive lineman that will show Mr. Klein how soft the Jerry World turf is, at least once.

[poopsammich]

sounds like we will assrape arky.

Gross.

[MarilynKay]

Dear God,

Please let Kstate be arrogant enough to kick and punt to Razorback Joe Adams, each and every time.

I know that the meek shall inherit the Earth--but that young man is a hell of a punt/kick returner (forgive me for cursing, Lord!)

In your most Holy name,
Amen

[ConHog]

sounds like we will assrape arky.

Gross.

I have to laugh at the irony of a dude named poopsammich saying gross about anything. 

[sys]

god has placed his mark on kstate fball's brow.  all the rest of this drivel is meaningless.

Wow!  Way to provide something of substance to the discussion.

i provided the only post of substance, dumbass.  you'll see that after you outgain kstate fball by 400 yards and lose by 3.

[SRV]

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Also, Arkansas' defense (which I'll address later in the week) is not as good as either OU or OSU IMHO.

Very interested, curious in hearing this, and I know you have your reasons.  Tough to fathom a defense not as good as a defense ranked #104, but I definitely agree they are not as good as OU defense.
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You are correct about our defense not being in the league of OU.  Until the OU/OSU game I might have debated our merits vs. those of OSU.  Now you may be right there as well.  I think K-State is the worst possible matchup for us, short of AL/LSU.  I say this for two fundamental reasons.  First, you have the ability to pound us on the ground, limiting our offense's opportunities.  Second, you will hit our QB.   Hell, Pittsburg State would probably get to Tyler repeatedly.   I think our game will be along the lines of what you see when you play TAM, TT, and the other second tier big 12 teams.  In the SEC this year, you had AL/LSU, and then a big drop off to everyone else, us included.  It will be interesting to see how two upper-middles from the SEC and Big 12 match up.