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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2011, 06:26:50 PM »
i've noticed that arkansas runs a strong/weak side offensive line, rather than the traditional left tackle, right tackle, etc..... wonder if that changes anything in defensive preparation.

Not really unless they have a tendancy to run specific plays behind specific linemen. Our staff will put in the work to find tendancies like that, but I don't have the time or resources to do so. Based on what I've seen so far they do a few thing differently as far as how they do pull linemen though. In our power running scheme we pull backside linemen most of the time, usually a guard. They will often pull play side linemen and run off tackle. I plan to do a _FANframes at some point breaking down a couple of those.

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2011, 07:01:11 PM »
what sets do they run on offense?  Will we be able to keep Walker in the game or will we have to go 4-2-5?  I think we are a better defense if we can keep 3 linebackers on the field.

Almost everything, but we haven't seen any 3 back stuff this year.

Seriously, you will see everything from two tight I to 5 wide all receivers from us.

We have been playing a lot more 1 tight, 3 wide.  Our tight end has become a beast in the last half of the season.

  Our 1-5 wide receivers will be the best wide receiving corps you have seen all season, and it won't be remotely close (yes, even better than baylor/osu).

[u]Our top 4 wide receivers are Biletnikoff nominees.  No team in the history of college football has had more than 2 (and we have a full 2 more on the list).[/u]   


You will not be able to cover us, at all.  The good news is you will be able to get some pressure on Wilson, and you will be able to run the ball down are throats the entire game.

Wow, that WOULD be impressive if Duke and SMU didn't each have 2 WR on that same list.  :jerk:

What do have to get on this list? Have your coach send in a letter of recommendation?


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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #27 on: December 07, 2011, 08:03:01 PM »
Wow, that WOULD be impressive if Duke and SMU didn't each have 2 WR on that same list.  :jerk:

What do have to get on this list? Have your coach send in a letter of recommendation?



They have gained 2,764 yard between them.  If you think you are going up against Duke or SMU type wide receivers, you have another thing coming.

if you look back on my commentary since I joined most of it is very level headed/even keeled/and not extremely homerish.

If you do not think this is the best WR corps you have seen this year, you are in for a very rude awakening on January 6th.

Just as Arkansas fans who think this will be a cake walk, will be surprised when KState runs it down our throats----you will be very embarassed if you do not give those 4 (plus gragg) some serious respect.

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #28 on: December 08, 2011, 08:30:26 AM »
Wow, that WOULD be impressive if Duke and SMU didn't each have 2 WR on that same list.  :jerk:

What do have to get on this list? Have your coach send in a letter of recommendation?



They have gained 2,764 yard between them.  If you think you are going up against Duke or SMU type wide receivers, you have another thing coming.

if you look back on my commentary since I joined most of it is very level headed/even keeled/and not extremely homerish.

If you do not think this is the best WR corps you have seen this year, you are in for a very rude awakening on January 6th.

Just as Arkansas fans who think this will be a cake walk, will be surprised when KState runs it down our throats----you will be very embarassed if you do not give those 4 (plus gragg) some serious respect.

Oklahoma State has to be very close, their top 4 have 3000+ yds.  Blackmon is head and shoulders over every other receiver in the country, and their others are very good.  Kendall Wright is incredible, although Baylor doesn't have too much else, other than the Heisman favorite throwing to them.  At A&M, Swope, Fuller and Nwachukwu are a great trio.  I agree that Ark's receivers are very, very good, but color me :dubious: that they are much better than what we have seen this year.  Wilson vs. any of the top Big XII QBs is at best a wash. Add that to your suspect line when compared to OU / OSU and it is hard for me to believe you will have the success through the air that OU and OSU had against us.  I think it will be more along the lines of Baylor and aTm.
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_FANalysis: Arkansas Special Teams
« Reply #29 on: December 08, 2011, 08:45:25 AM »
A look at the Arkansas kicking/punting game. K-State will need to be ready. http://goEMAW.com/blog/?p=1674

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2011, 09:21:56 AM »
These write ups not only make my FBIQ skyrocket but they also make the game more enjoyable since I can look at the game as more than just, run play/pass play and blitz/contain.

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Special Teams
« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2011, 10:13:36 AM »
Will Doerr be able to hit the video screen with one of his punts?

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Special Teams
« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2011, 10:18:45 AM »
Yep, Joe Adams is freaking beast if given the least little hole to run through--and he's very good at making his own holes to run through!

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Special Teams
« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2011, 10:28:46 AM »
Everytime we kick off, the 50,000 fans I've heard will be there should scream "Lacerate his kidney!" #tsc
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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Special Teams
« Reply #34 on: December 08, 2011, 11:00:56 AM »
Kick off returns for Ark really concern me in game that should feature a lot of them.  I cannot recall a non-wind aided touchback for Cantele, he is a fine FG kicker but does not seem to have a huge leg.

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Special Teams
« Reply #35 on: December 08, 2011, 11:07:20 AM »
Kick off returns for Ark really concern me in game that should feature a lot of them.  I cannot recall a non-wind aided touchback for Cantele, he is a fine FG kicker but does not seem to have a huge leg.

IMO, Cantele has been told  to kickoff high/short/placement over just powering it for a touchback.

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Special Teams
« Reply #36 on: December 08, 2011, 11:11:11 AM »
Sean's HCIW status may hinge on how he calls this game. 
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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Special Teams
« Reply #37 on: December 08, 2011, 12:35:01 PM »
_FAN is right.  Arky sucks ass.
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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #38 on: December 08, 2011, 01:05:12 PM »
Oklahoma State has to be very close, their top 4 have 3000+ yds.  Blackmon is head and shoulders over every other receiver in the country, and their others are very good.  Kendall Wright is incredible, although Baylor doesn't have too much else, other than the Heisman favorite throwing to them.  At A&M, Swope, Fuller and Nwachukwu are a great trio.  I agree that Ark's receivers are very, very good, but color me :dubious: that they are much better than what we have seen this year.  Wilson vs. any of the top Big XII QBs is at best a wash. Add that to your suspect line when compared to OU / OSU and it is hard for me to believe you will have the success through the air that OU and OSU had against us.  I think it will be more along the lines of Baylor and aTm.

Oklahoma State has over 100+ more pass attempts and plays in a defensively weaker conference.  There isn't much comparison.

Arkansas and Texas A&M played, and your comment about their three great wide receivers was HILARIOUS. 

You really are that jaded.  That's the funniest part.

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #39 on: December 08, 2011, 01:14:45 PM »
These write ups not only make my FBIQ skyrocket but they also make the game more enjoyable since I can look at the game as more than just, run play/pass play and blitz/contain.

Thanks _FAN!

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These write ups saved not only my marriage but my hairline as well!
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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #40 on: December 08, 2011, 01:17:42 PM »
_FAN, has Arkansas seen a running back with the speed/power combo they will face in Hubert?

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #41 on: December 08, 2011, 01:22:53 PM »
_FAN, has Arkansas seen a running back with the speed/power combo they will face in Hubert?

I've heard some people compare him to Richard from Alabama, but the Bama QB doesn't run nearly well enough for it to be an accurate comparison. The 1-2 punch of Hubert-Klein is the most powerful in the country.

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #42 on: December 08, 2011, 01:24:01 PM »
_FAN, has Arkansas seen a running back with the speed/power combo they will face in Hubert?

YES.

We faced Trent Richardson.  He went 17 for 128.

We also saw Christine Michael (a&m) 32 for 230.

We give up 174 yards a game on the ground.

You guys will run it down our throats and do so effectively.

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #43 on: December 08, 2011, 01:28:58 PM »
Oklahoma State has over 100+ more pass attempts and plays in a defensively weaker conference.  There isn't much comparison.

Arkansas and Texas A&M played, and your comment about their three great wide receivers was HILARIOUS.  

You really are that jaded.  That's the funniest part.

First, no one is saying that Arkansas' receivers aren't good (or even very good).

2nd, no one here cares about total yards, its already been addressed that the Big 12 runs at a quicker pace and therefore most offenses are simply going to gain more yards. However, the fact that OSU was much more efficient (73% completions compared to 63%) and still averaged the same 8.4 yards per ATTEMPT and its hard not to say OSU has the better passing offense, regardless of whether or not Arkansas' recievers are better or not. Then factor in that OSU allowed only 11 sacks on 553 pass attempts compared to 25 on 440 attempts for Arkansas and its hard not see that OSU's offensive line isn't just better, but much better. Finally throw in that OSU averaged 5.4 yards per carry rushing the football compared to 4.34 YPC for Arkansas.

Again, no one is saying that Arkansas' offense isn't good, because it is. But Big 12 fans know good offense and good skill players when we see them because we see them almost every week. I won't argue that Arkansas didn't face better defenses overall on the season (they did), but the fact is they also faced quite a few average and bad defenses. I don't think is fair (or logical) to say that OSU's offensive numbers (or any Big 12 team) are that much more inflated because of the level of defenses they faced compared to Arkansas (or any SEC team) on the season. Overall as an offense I'd say Arkansas is the 3rd or 4th best offense we've faced this year, but we've played better, even if your receivers (as a unit) are better than any other team we've seen.

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #44 on: December 08, 2011, 01:36:57 PM »
_FAN, has Arkansas seen a running back with the speed/power combo they will face in Hubert?

YES.

We faced Trent Richardson.  He went 17 for 128.

We also saw Christine Michael (a&m) 32 for 230.

We give up 174 yards a game on the ground.

You guys will run it down our throats and do so effectively.

We've also faced Michael Dyer, Vick Ballard, Brandon Bolden, and LSU's stable of RBs lol...SEC has some good RBs to make up for some bad pass offenses

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Special Teams
« Reply #45 on: December 08, 2011, 01:45:10 PM »
Sean should have his job on the line after the ISU coverage issues. 

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #46 on: December 08, 2011, 04:30:51 PM »
Oklahoma State has to be very close, their top 4 have 3000+ yds.  Blackmon is head and shoulders over every other receiver in the country, and their others are very good.  Kendall Wright is incredible, although Baylor doesn't have too much else, other than the Heisman favorite throwing to them.  At A&M, Swope, Fuller and Nwachukwu are a great trio.  I agree that Ark's receivers are very, very good, but color me :dubious: that they are much better than what we have seen this year.  Wilson vs. any of the top Big XII QBs is at best a wash. Add that to your suspect line when compared to OU / OSU and it is hard for me to believe you will have the success through the air that OU and OSU had against us.  I think it will be more along the lines of Baylor and aTm.

Oklahoma State has over 100+ more pass attempts and plays in a defensively weaker conference.  There isn't much comparison.

Arkansas and Texas A&M played, and your comment about their three great wide receivers was HILARIOUS. 

You really are that jaded.  That's the funniest part.

Yep, you're right there is no comparison between OSU and Arky's receivers. None.
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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #47 on: December 09, 2011, 12:33:31 AM »
Arky fan says getting pressure on their QB is something we should have relative success with. 

Which I hope is true since our two losses involved Landry Jones and Brandon Weeden having all day to throw the football.  So is our D-Line good enough/their O-Line bad enough where we can disrupt their QB on a regular basis?

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #48 on: December 09, 2011, 08:22:31 AM »
So is our D-Line good enough/their O-Line bad enough where we can disrupt their QB on a regular basis?

Yes.  Kansas State is 90th in sacks this year, so it won't be as prolific as we have seen, but you will get pressure on him.

We are giving up 5 sacks per game and a ton of hits on the QB.  KState averages 1.5 sacks per game, so I think three sacks (probably on 3rd downs) is NOT unreasonable to expect.  I'd expect 10-15 SOLID hits on Tyler.  We've literally watched him get completely lit up all year, it is amazing he pops back up like he does.

Now, who will be making these sacks/hurryups/hits?  I don't know.  I do NOT think it will be Williams, because he has completely disappeared in big games this year.  I think it will be Voelker (SP?) or Brown who will be getting the majority of the pressure.  I think Brown will be very instrumental in this game, defensively, for KState. He is not a coverage liability, like a lot of LBs (and like your secondary can be), I think he can match up with our tight end fairly well, and I think with the time Snyder has to scheme, he will be more involved in the Pass Rush than he has been this year.

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Re: _FANalysis: Arkansas Offense
« Reply #49 on: December 09, 2011, 09:07:01 AM »



We are giving up 5 sacks per game and a ton of hits on the QB.  KState averages 1.5 sacks per game, so I think three sacks (probably on 3rd downs) is NOT unreasonable to expect.  I'd expect 10-15 SOLID hits on Tyler.  We've literally watched him get completely lit up all year, it is amazing he pops back up like he does.


Yep, I think the last game we played, the stats indicated that Tyler Wilson had been hit over 60 times this season.  But....he does pop up and keeps on playing.  He's one tough dude.  Our 2nd string QB is pretty good--and kind of a big guy if I remember correctly.  We utilize him on 3rd/4th downs that need a yard or so to convert.  He just pushes through whatever is in his way.