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« Reply #25 on: December 06, 2011, 03:52:03 PM »
"I think it's a sign that Petrino doesn't really care all that much about the outcome of the bowl game."

I don't think so. I think he believes Caldwell (possibly the replacement) can handle it, and he wants the pieces in place, now.

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« Reply #26 on: December 06, 2011, 04:09:42 PM »
I must say I'm concerned about the firing of our defensive coordinator 1 month before the game. Granted, most of us wanted him to go, and maybe the timing was necessary in order to get a good one just after everyone's season ends, but I am hoping this doesn't undo our already bad run-defense. Thoughts?
Wait, what?  You have a bad run defense?   Hmm..  How many points can you score if you have the ball for like, 4 minutes a half?  If our defensive performance is anything like it was against Baylor, it will work out to be about 5 touchdowns.
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« Reply #27 on: December 06, 2011, 04:53:40 PM »
  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg young man can run


  Hogs never give up on a play.


  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs




All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.

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« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2011, 05:01:06 PM »
  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg young man can run


  Hogs never give up on a play.


  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs




All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.


Your neighbor who practices intelligent discourse admitted that your run defense is weak. Do you think it's weak?

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« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2011, 05:43:42 PM »
Kansux st  has no chance to win the game!  Razorbacks 55  pussy kats 7!!
SEC enough said!!!

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« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2011, 05:59:42 PM »
I'm starting to think all the Arkansas posters are just socks for one guy and we're the ones that have been had.
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« Reply #31 on: December 06, 2011, 06:37:00 PM »
  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg young man can run


  Hogs never give up on a play.


  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs




All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.


Your neighbor who practices intelligent discourse admitted that your run defense is weak. Do you think it's weak?

Not so much weak as it is inconsistent.  It's either very good or very bad.  So, I guess in a manner of speaking it would be weak. 


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« Reply #32 on: December 06, 2011, 07:49:47 PM »
Are guys good at consistently throwing for 15-25 yards over the middle on 3rd and long? Because that could be a problem for us.
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« Reply #33 on: December 06, 2011, 07:50:38 PM »
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.
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« Reply #34 on: December 06, 2011, 08:00:43 PM »
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.

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« Reply #35 on: December 06, 2011, 08:05:52 PM »

And just glancing at some Arkansas film,

Have you found any streams? I can only find torrents.

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« Reply #36 on: December 06, 2011, 08:12:19 PM »

And just glancing at some Arkansas film,

Have you found any streams? I can only find torrents.

No, I haven't found too many full games, there preseason games against Missouri St, New Mexico, and Troy are on ESPN3. There are pretty decent highlights on the SEC site and on youtube that give a pretty good feel for what they do and how they play, though I haven't watched a lot yet.

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« Reply #37 on: December 06, 2011, 08:30:20 PM »
  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg young man can run


  Hogs never give up on a play.


  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs




All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.


What about this one:

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« Reply #38 on: December 06, 2011, 08:38:20 PM »
  Mercy!  That was a phenomenal run.  What?  6-7 defenders missed tackles
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=byPjkmgUcWg young man can run


  Hogs never give up on a play.


  Young man is a BEAST when it comes to hitting QBs




All in all, if KS can control/handle the 8 players that made the all SEC team, it could be interesting.  If KS gives any room to run, or doesn't protect their QB, it will only be interesting to see howhow the score is ran up.


What about this one:


There was controversy on whether punt returner signaled fair catch, or was shielding his eyes from sun.
I don't know, I did not get to watch the game--and sometimes you have to put plays in context.

Obviously the ref felt fair catch had been signaled.  And Marquel was ejected from game.  Do I think it was intentionally bad sportsmanship?  No, I can see where Marquel could have thought he had the right to tackle the punt returner.  It was a damned hard hit.  And I'm glad that the opposing player was not injured.

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« Reply #39 on: December 06, 2011, 08:41:09 PM »
There was controversy on whether punt returner signaled fair catch, or was shielding his eyes from sun.
I don't know, I did not get to watch the game--and sometimes you have to put plays in context.

Obviously the ref felt fair catch had been signaled.  And Marquel was ejected from game.  Do I think it was intentionally bad sportsmanship?  No, I can see where Marquel could have thought he had the right to tackle the punt returner.  It was a damned hard hit.  And I'm glad that the opposing player was not injured.


Fair enough.

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« Reply #40 on: December 06, 2011, 08:45:33 PM »
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.

I was pretty concerned watching how ISU dialed them up on every 3rd down like I do on NCAA.
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« Reply #41 on: December 06, 2011, 08:48:31 PM »
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.

I was pretty concerned watching how ISU dialed them up on every 3rd down like I do on NCAA.

Correctable. Our LBs were dropping way too far back into coverage and we did stop a couple later in the game. From what I understand ISU hadn't used crossing routes like that much all season, but found a lot of success (obviously) against us.

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« Reply #42 on: December 06, 2011, 08:49:08 PM »
I'm watching the LSU game now. I've noticed they like hitting QBs a lot. Sometimes on the fringe of late hitting. Also like the shallow middle crossing routes. Two fumbles so far, I think both were from number 33. I wouldn't say bad tackling, but some appear to be more interested in leveling a blow than actually tackling anyone. Their d reminds me of ours aside from the tackling.

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« Reply #43 on: December 06, 2011, 08:56:44 PM »
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.

I was pretty concerned watching how ISU dialed them up on every 3rd down like I do on NCAA.

Correctable. Our LBs were dropping way too far back into coverage and we did stop a couple later in the game. From what I understand ISU hadn't used crossing routes like that much all season, but found a lot of success (obviously) against us.

Like how we suddenly started running Hubert in the jet?

Would be sweet to give us a _fan five of the most likely wrinkles we'll see against Ark (like how we sprung stretch read on Miami, option pitch on whoever, zombie against atm, jet against ISU, etc.
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« Reply #44 on: December 06, 2011, 09:16:54 PM »
Like how we suddenly started running Hubert in the jet?

Would be sweet to give us a _fan five of the most likely wrinkles we'll see against Ark (like how we sprung stretch read on Miami, option pitch on whoever, zombie against atm, jet against ISU, etc.

That was a nice wrinkle that just made sense. Split him out, then motion him to run stretch read. A lot of spread teams like Missouri do that all the time with their running game.

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« Reply #45 on: December 06, 2011, 11:04:29 PM »
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.

I was pretty concerned watching how ISU dialed them up on every 3rd down like I do on NCAA.

Correctable. Our LBs were dropping way too far back into coverage and we did stop a couple later in the game. From what I understand ISU hadn't used crossing routes like that much all season, but found a lot of success (obviously) against us.

by my count ISU converted 5,  3rd and 10 yards or greater.  that's awful...so frustrating.

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« Reply #46 on: December 06, 2011, 11:55:57 PM »
Arkansas Fan here with some early analysis:

Things K-State will be successful with:

- Speed Option  (specifically to the left side of the defense) - Our defensive ends have a tendency to push up field to much, specifically Bequette. Jericho Nelson, who plays bandit LB for us, also tends to over pursue.
- Zone Blitzes - Arkansas O-line struggles with stunts and complex blitz packages. Our O-Line is fairly decent at managing edge pressure. If you can force them to make an outside step and check back inside to a blitz they are toast.
- QB scrambles - Our secondary is average at best. If you force us to respect the pass early C. Klein can run all day on us.

Who really knows how bad we could be on defense with W Rob getting axed?

Things K-State won't be successful with:

-Slowing us down on offense - No disrespect, but if your name isn't Alabama or LSU ,you won't show us any level of skill we haven't seen before.
-Stopping the run - Even though we aren't a top tier running team, we probably have a better rushing attack than you have seen (Maybe Texas?). If somehow Knile Davis comes back for the bowl game, that holds even more weight. Not 200 yards, but a solid hundred yard day for DJamer.

If you showed me a single game film I would without a doubt say that Arkansas is an overwhelming favorite. I live in the KC area, so I have a few friends that are K-State grads. I have seen 4-5 games this season. There is just something about the Klein kid that worries me and Snyder is an all-time great, in my opinion. Every week you are a 7 point or greater underdog and every week you pull something out.

I think you are facing a more athletic team in every facet of the game, but in no way do I think you are outmatched. If you stretch the field and make us have to play sound on the d-front rather than just pinning the ears back, you will have a lot of success. Which is what your offense is based on.

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« Reply #47 on: December 06, 2011, 11:58:24 PM »
I must say I'm concerned about the firing of our defensive coordinator 1 month before the game. Granted, most of us wanted him to go, and maybe the timing was necessary in order to get a good one just after everyone's season ends, but I am hoping this doesn't undo our already bad run-defense. Thoughts?

I think it's a sign that Petrino doesn't really care all that much about the outcome of the bowl game.

yeah, you're probably right.  Bobby Petrino's not very competitive.

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« Reply #48 on: December 07, 2011, 12:00:40 AM »
The question about our front four is the one I'm most eagerly awaiting getting framed.

Its a good question. I'll do what I can.

And just glancing at some Arkansas film, the crossing routes concern me. Arkansas seems to like those, as well as boot passes and leaking backs out of the backfield on routes.

I was pretty concerned watching how ISU dialed them up on every 3rd down like I do on NCAA.

Correctable. Our LBs were dropping way too far back into coverage and we did stop a couple later in the game. From what I understand ISU hadn't used crossing routes like that much all season, but found a lot of success (obviously) against us.

by my count ISU converted 5,  3rd and 10 yards or greater.  that's awful...so frustrating.

You guys should make sure Coach Snyder knows about this ASAP!

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« Reply #49 on: December 07, 2011, 09:16:02 AM »
Also Arkansas Return Guys on Kick offs & Punts are wicked good.....  Joe Adams is a man child.