does playing Arkansas hurt the image of our program

[We Are Better Than You]

Confederate flag defenders are so hilariously transparent.  But they think they have some hook just because flag doesn't have a burning cross on it.

I am thinking we still need to monitor the racists who will be at the game before we commit to kicking this thing off.  Let them play a German team or something if we back out.  The Germans can defend the swastika as "not being racist" and they can all slap each other on the back.

Yes, it's very apparent that Arkansas has no plans to abandon or even temper the Stars & Bars tradition at the Cotton Bowl.  Proactive action needs to be taken.

You pussy's will do anything to avoid the impending asswhippin

When prominent racists die, do you fly your confederate flag at half-mast?

Well I'm sure when Phelps dies, you'll lower all your flags, won't you?

[Trim]

Confederate flag defenders are so hilariously transparent.  But they think they have some hook just because flag doesn't have a burning cross on it.

I am thinking we still need to monitor the racists who will be at the game before we commit to kicking this thing off.  Let them play a German team or something if we back out.  The Germans can defend the swastika as "not being racist" and they can all slap each other on the back.

Yes, it's very apparent that Arkansas has no plans to abandon or even temper the Stars & Bars tradition at the Cotton Bowl.  Proactive action needs to be taken.

You pussy's will do anything to avoid the impending asswhippin

When prominent racists die, do you fly your confederate flag at half-mast?

Well I'm sure when Phelps dies, you'll lower all your flags, won't you?

You may notice that nobody here is trying to justify the Phelps' existence or come up with a non-disgusting reason for their presence.

[We Are Better Than You]

Confederate flag defenders are so hilariously transparent.  But they think they have some hook just because flag doesn't have a burning cross on it.

I am thinking we still need to monitor the racists who will be at the game before we commit to kicking this thing off.  Let them play a German team or something if we back out.  The Germans can defend the swastika as "not being racist" and they can all slap each other on the back.

Yes, it's very apparent that Arkansas has no plans to abandon or even temper the Stars & Bars tradition at the Cotton Bowl.  Proactive action needs to be taken.

You pussy's will do anything to avoid the impending asswhippin

When prominent racists die, do you fly your confederate flag at half-mast?

Well I'm sure when Phelps dies, you'll lower all your flags, won't you?

You may notice that nobody here is trying to justify the Phelps' existence or come up with a non-disgusting reason for their presence.

You may notice that nobody here is trying to justify racism's existence or come up with a non-disgusting reason for it's presence.

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I still don't know why you think the Confederate flag is an over display of racism... You keep avoiding the question...

And I SERIOUSLY doubt you saw 2 Klansmen running around the field... Let's be realistic... But I'd be more concerned about Phelps and his "Klan" making constant slanderous remarks against African Americans, dead GI's, and football players... I mean, if you want to live in a state that condones that kind of behavior, you dig your own grave.

You don't know why the confederate flag is a display of racism?  I mean, I don't even...

You're right, I shouldn't have presumed they were official KKK members.  All we know is that they were Arkansas football fans. 

Really not seeing the correlation to some weirdo who lives in Topeka and runs around the country preaching in his squawk jacket.  I'm not a member of his church/family/cult.  You are a member of a fanbase that celebrates football victories by running out to midfield with a representation of the most shameful period in this country's history.

JFC, the video. http://www.fox16.com/news/story/Arkansas-town-prohibits-confederate-flag/pIM2NN084EuB3Sz8fB-Hag.cspx

Oh. My. Lord. You won't drop the flag from the 1960's game, will you? And you still haven't answered my question... Have you seen a Confederate flag at a Arkansas football game since that specific football game? Let me answer this for you... No! You haven't... Arkansans are not any more racist than Kansas is more terroristic. You can't justify actions of a small town on US HWY 65 anymore than you can of a cult on West 12th Street.

That being said, I'm not even sure that you read the article. "{Flying the} confederate flag is not a racial issue but standing up for southern heritage, the military, and state's rights. There are some of us that are proud of their heritage. My great-grandfather fought under that flag and I’m proud of that fact, and I think it’s a shame. I’m not a history buff, but I don’t think you can find anything in the history books bad about Robert E. Lee.”

That's it. The end. Though it is about perception and being politically correct in this country, the City Council did the right thing, in my opinion. It shouldn't be flown on government property because the flag symbolizes a Confederacy that does not exist anymore. It would be the same if a Northern state flew a Union flag. Freedom of speech bro...

Yeah, I read the article and watched the video and saw a bunch of rednecks trying to justify why it was OK to fly the flag and that anybody against it is just afraid of "offending the blacks."

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I am thinking we still need to monitor the racists who will be at the game before we commit to kicking this thing off. 

That's illegal too bro... It's called "discrimination"...

Yes, it's very apparent that Arkansas has no plans to abandon or even temper the Stars & Bars tradition at the Cotton Bowl.  Proactive action needs to be taken.

Do tell why it's SOOO apparent?

Because you and your klan keep arguing that it was/is OK to fly the flag because of what year it was or because of what it represents to your backwards culture, and not one of you can or wants to assure that the flag won't be flown Friday.

[Trim]

Confederate flag defenders are so hilariously transparent.  But they think they have some hook just because flag doesn't have a burning cross on it.

I am thinking we still need to monitor the racists who will be at the game before we commit to kicking this thing off.  Let them play a German team or something if we back out.  The Germans can defend the swastika as "not being racist" and they can all slap each other on the back.

Yes, it's very apparent that Arkansas has no plans to abandon or even temper the Stars & Bars tradition at the Cotton Bowl.  Proactive action needs to be taken.

You pussy's will do anything to avoid the impending asswhippin

When prominent racists die, do you fly your confederate flag at half-mast?

Well I'm sure when Phelps dies, you'll lower all your flags, won't you?

You may notice that nobody here is trying to justify the Phelps' existence or come up with a non-disgusting reason for their presence.

You may notice that nobody here is trying to justify racism's existence or come up with a non-disgusting reason for it's presence.

No, I do, when you keep saying the flag is ok because it was 1965 or because of (white) pride in the south.

[WillieWatanabe]

Ark fans, what is your home board? tia

[We Are Better Than You]

I still don't know why you think the Confederate flag is an over display of racism... You keep avoiding the question...

And I SERIOUSLY doubt you saw 2 Klansmen running around the field... Let's be realistic... But I'd be more concerned about Phelps and his "Klan" making constant slanderous remarks against African Americans, dead GI's, and football players... I mean, if you want to live in a state that condones that kind of behavior, you dig your own grave.

You don't know why the confederate flag is a display of racism?  I mean, I don't even...

You're right, I shouldn't have presumed they were official KKK members.  All we know is that they were Arkansas football fans. 

Really not seeing the correlation to some weirdo who lives in Topeka and runs around the country preaching in his squawk jacket.  I'm not a member of his church/family/cult.  You are a member of a fanbase that celebrates football victories by running out to midfield with a representation of the most shameful period in this country's history.

JFC, the video. http://www.fox16.com/news/story/Arkansas-town-prohibits-confederate-flag/pIM2NN084EuB3Sz8fB-Hag.cspx

Oh. My. Lord. You won't drop the flag from the 1960's game, will you? And you still haven't answered my question... Have you seen a Confederate flag at a Arkansas football game since that specific football game? Let me answer this for you... No! You haven't... Arkansans are not any more racist than Kansas is more terroristic. You can't justify actions of a small town on US HWY 65 anymore than you can of a cult on West 12th Street.

That being said, I'm not even sure that you read the article. "{Flying the} confederate flag is not a racial issue but standing up for southern heritage, the military, and state's rights. There are some of us that are proud of their heritage. My great-grandfather fought under that flag and I’m proud of that fact, and I think it’s a shame. I’m not a history buff, but I don’t think you can find anything in the history books bad about Robert E. Lee.”

That's it. The end. Though it is about perception and being politically correct in this country, the City Council did the right thing, in my opinion. It shouldn't be flown on government property because the flag symbolizes a Confederacy that does not exist anymore. It would be the same if a Northern state flew a Union flag. Freedom of speech bro...

Yeah, I read the article and watched the video and saw a bunch of rednecks trying to justify why it was OK to fly the flag and that anybody against it is just afraid of "offending the blacks."

Rednecks indeed... what would you want people to be against it for? Not EVERYBODY thinks the flag is a racist symbol... Just the ignorant ones. To Southerners, and some folks in Marshall, the Confederate flag means something more, as I said above...

I am thinking we still need to monitor the racists who will be at the game before we commit to kicking this thing off. 

That's illegal too bro... It's called "discrimination"...

Yes, it's very apparent that Arkansas has no plans to abandon or even temper the Stars & Bars tradition at the Cotton Bowl.  Proactive action needs to be taken.

Do tell why it's SOOO apparent?

Because you and your klan keep arguing that it was/is OK to fly the flag because of what year it was or because of what it represents to your backwards culture, and not one of you can or wants to assure that the flag won't be flown Friday.

No, I NEVER said it was OK to fly a Confederate flag. The problem I have with your argument is that you're trying to correlate 1965 to today... and yet again, for about the 5th time, I ask you, have you seen a Confederate flag flown at any U of A football game??

[AbeFroman]

Nothing says "in your head" more than people who use the handle "We Are Better Than You"

[CHONGS]

I live in Arkansas and went to every home game.  It was flown for every home Arkansas game this year, often times higher than the American flag.  I guess we know were their priorities are.

[bakerman]

Oh. My. Lord. You won't drop the flag from the 1960's game, will you? And you still haven't answered my question... Have you seen a Confederate flag at a Arkansas football game since that specific football game? Let me answer this for you... No! You haven't... Arkansans are not any more racist than Kansas is more terroristic. You can't justify actions of a small town on US HWY 65 anymore than you can of a cult on West 12th Street.

That being said, I'm not even sure that you read the article. "{Flying the} confederate flag is not a racial issue but standing up for southern heritage, the military, and state's rights. There are some of us that are proud of their heritage. My great-grandfather fought under that flag and I’m proud of that fact, and I think it’s a shame. I’m not a history buff, but I don’t think you can find anything in the history books bad about Robert E. Lee.”

That's it. The end. Though it is about perception and being politically correct in this country, the City Council did the right thing, in my opinion. It shouldn't be flown on government property because the flag symbolizes a Confederacy that does not exist anymore. It would be the same if a Northern state flew a Union flag. Freedom of speech bro...

Every State flies the Union Flag to this day, what with the North winning the war and all...

[8manpick]

Rednecks indeed... what would you want people to be against it for? Not EVERYBODY thinks the flag is a racist symbol... Just the ignorant ones. To Southerners, and some folks in Marshall, the Confederate flag means something more, as I said above...

Something more?  Like treason against America and losing a war?  Or fond memories of slavery?

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Rednecks indeed... what would you want people to be against it for? Not EVERYBODY thinks the flag is a racist symbol... Just the ignorant ones. To Southerners, and some folks in Marshall, the Confederate flag means something more, as I said above...

Something more?  Like treason against America and losing a war?  Or fond memories of slavery?

8manpick, you and the overwhelming majority of America are just ignorant.

[Trim]

I live in Arkansas and went to every home game.  It was flown for every home Arkansas game this year, often times higher than the American flag.  I guess we know were their priorities are.

Call off the game.  This is unconscionable.

[8manpick]

Rednecks indeed... what would you want people to be against it for? Not EVERYBODY thinks the flag is a racist symbol... Just the ignorant ones. To Southerners, and some folks in Marshall, the Confederate flag means something more, as I said above...

Something more?  Like treason against America and losing a war?  Or fond memories of slavery?

8manpick, you and the overwhelming majority of America are just ignorant.

Trim, you sound like a slaver and a traitor.

[WillieWatanabe]

Ark fans, what is your home board? tia

[Trim]

Rednecks indeed... what would you want people to be against it for? Not EVERYBODY thinks the flag is a racist symbol... Just the ignorant ones. To Southerners, and some folks in Marshall, the Confederate flag means something more, as I said above...

Something more?  Like treason against America and losing a war?  Or fond memories of slavery?

8manpick, you and the overwhelming majority of America are just ignorant.

Trim, you sound like a slaver and a traitor.

Yes, it really is a preposterous position to take.

[Stevesie60]

Due to recent events, this thread is more relevant than I originally believed. Do you guys think people watching the Cotton Bowl on TV will know which fanbase is waving the confederate flags?

[8manpick]

Rednecks indeed... what would you want people to be against it for? Not EVERYBODY thinks the flag is a racist symbol... Just the ignorant ones. To Southerners, and some folks in Marshall, the Confederate flag means something more, as I said above...

Something more?  Like treason against America and losing a war?  Or fond memories of slavery?

8manpick, you and the overwhelming majority of America are just ignorant.

Trim, you sound like a slaver and a traitor.

Yes, it really is a preposterous position to take.

Maybe what the Arky / traitor fans are doing is supporting the confederate flag just for the sake of arguing.  You know, like in high school debate where someone has to take the bad side?  It may be like their way of acting out their dream of being lawyers, despite attending a tech school.

[Trim]

Due to recent events, this thread is more relevant than I originally believed. Do you guys think people watching the Cotton Bowl on TV will know which fanbase is waving the confederate flags?

I don't think we can take the chance.

[Trim]

Rednecks indeed... what would you want people to be against it for? Not EVERYBODY thinks the flag is a racist symbol... Just the ignorant ones. To Southerners, and some folks in Marshall, the Confederate flag means something more, as I said above...

Something more?  Like treason against America and losing a war?  Or fond memories of slavery?

8manpick, you and the overwhelming majority of America are just ignorant.

Trim, you sound like a slaver and a traitor.

Yes, it really is a preposterous position to take.

Maybe what the Arky / traitor fans are doing is supporting the confederate flag just for the sake of arguing.  You know, like in high school debate where someone has to take the bad side?  It may be like their way of acting out their dream of being lawyers, despite attending a tech school.

That would be a good theory but for the fact this has gone beyond hypothetical arguing.  I mean, there they were, on the 50-yard-line waving their symbols of hate seconds after the game ended.

[8manpick]

I think we can go ahead and close this thread.  We have definitively determined that playing Arkansas will hurt the image of our program on several levels.  Unless ADJC pulls off some serious magic to find a more respectable opponent, we should just focus on how we are going to rebuild our image after the game.

/thread

[Trim]

I think we can go ahead and close this thread.  We have definitively determined that playing Arkansas will hurt the image of our program on several levels.  Unless ADJC pulls off some serious magic to find a more respectable opponent, we should just focus on how we are going to rebuild our image after the game.

/thread

I just twittered the video to ADJC, LHCBS and the Cotton Bowl.  Let's pray they do the right thing.

[MadCat]

Just saw the video...I now feel sympathy for the Yankee Huskers.

[CNS]

Due to recent events, this thread is more relevant than I originally believed. Do you guys think people watching the Cotton Bowl on TV will know which fanbase is waving the confederate flags?

Doesn't matter as far as TV goes.  Viewership is going to be very low.  People simply don't like to tune in to games they know will be huge blow outs. If the nation was just a little bit confident that Ark could score, then you would have a valid concern.  However, I hear that there will be a few reruns of Celebrity Chef on, so I think the nation's attention will be elsewhere.

Side note: When I think of the PigAggie players unwrapping their iPod 2's and looking at each other slack-jawed, then back at the iPods in stunned, silent, incomprehension, it cracks me up.  How many do you think have been used as coasters, ashtrays, or a table to roll their cigs on?  I bet a lot.  Can you imagine the commotion in their group of trailers if a player accidentally turned one on.  I mean, my god.....it would be like a recreation of the discovery of fire.