Gill fired/KU coach search/Weiss master thread

[Katpappy]

We can't keep adding to this thread for five years after all

Not the way these mods burn through message boards.

Ouch!  That digs down deep; this is the third board I been on since '04.    Started with the one Saulbadguy had, then J Rod, and now SD. 

[I_have_purplewood]

I'm pretty positive Ron Pawlus was a 5 star

on BITB, made jokes about them claiming Pawlus was going to be the first 3 time Heisman winner, but then did nothing but lose 3 bowls

Lee Corso once declared that Pawlus would win 4 Heismans.

Sorry bro, that was Beano Cooke.   
And I'm not laughing at you Pete, I'm laughing at the irony of him being at KU and people thinking he was going to win 4Heisman's. 

[Stupid Fitz]

 Gus

Lol

[SchemeDoctor]

I'm pretty positive Ron Pawlus was a 5 star

on BITB, made jokes about them claiming Pawlus was going to be the first 3 time Heisman winner, but then did nothing but lose 3 bowls

Lee Corso once declared that Pawlus would win 4 Heismans.

Sorry bro, that was Beano Cooke.   
And I'm not laughing at you Pete, I'm laughing at the irony of him being at KU and people thinking he was going to win 4Heisman's. 

It was Beano COOK (not Cooke), and he predicted that Pawlus would win the Heisman twice.  Y'all some n00bz.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1008784/index.htm

[Trim]

Trim esk.

You need to review the catmatt super thread.  It's "Trim, Esq."

[Trim]

Really, unless you're looking for it, you don't even notice the cane.

[114Hickory]

Interview with Weiss in the Chicago Tribune today:


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/cbsports-20111213-charlie-weis-qa-kansas-,0,3849598.story

[pissclams]

Really, unless you're looking for it, you don't even notice the cane.

his head seems misshaped, i bet he refused to wear the helmet as a baby.

[POWL]

Really, unless you're looking for it, you don't even notice the cane.

"reasons to order" = 

[Fuktard]

He seems obsessed with us:

"But the biggest issue is, you're 2-10. Kansas State is 10-2. Obviously you can win in this state. So I'm saying to myself, you're coming to a school that's 2-10. The other school is 10-2. Just think about it. If you, in one year, you get to .500, you went from 2-10 to 6-6 —v I don't know how many games we'll win next year. I'm not projecting. I'm not giving you a timetable. But just with hard work and strength and conditioning and better coaching and the guys buying in — you get to .500, all of a sudden, you've made the program relevant again. Because what you want to do is you want to be the school that's 10-2 in the state of Kansas. Around here, they won't even mention them. Why wouldn't you mention them? They're 10-2 and you're 2-10, that's who you have to beat! You gotta beat them in recruiting and you gotta beat them on the field.

Why is that? Do you have any idea why one school would be 2-10 and 10-2? Do you have any idea why that would happen? Neither do I. I have to sit there and say, if I'm 2-10, and they're 10-2, I should be able to get to that point. I don't know how long it will take to get to that point, but that's where we should be able to get. They're already doing it. And they win on a fairly regular basis there. So there's no reason we shouldn't be able to win on a fairly regular basis here"

[Fuktard]

I took this job because I won't have to work so hard:

You've had the most success in the pros. Success has been up and down at Notre Dame and Florida. Why would a guy with success in the pros feel like he wants to be in the college game?

Because it's so much more family friendly. In the pros, your family doesn't count. You never see them. College, you don't have the kids until 2:30 in the afternoon. So a lot of that preparation that takes place at night, you do during the day. Let's say you go home at night at 9:30 instead of midnight. You're still coming in at the same time, but let's say you go home at 9:30 instead of midnight.

You see your kids before they go to bed, you see your wife, maybe watch a show with her, talk to her a little bit before you go to sleep. You go to bed at 11:30. You're only home for two hours, but that two hours, that's two hours you're missing in the pros. When the games are over, there's your family running on to the field after the game to come and see you. In the pros, that never happens. If you truly are a family guy, OK, it's just a better existence.

[jtksu]

If that's Weis M.O., Snyder is going to buttfuck his soul.

[HeinBallz]

He's lowering their expectations of him by telling them he's not promising a 6-6 season - while giving them hope for 10-2.   It would be smart if it wasn't so transparent.

[CNS]

He seems obsessed with us:

"But the biggest issue is, you're 2-10. Kansas State is 10-2. Obviously you can win in this state. So I'm saying to myself, you're coming to a school that's 2-10. The other school is 10-2. Just think about it. If you, in one year, you get to .500, you went from 2-10 to 6-6 —v I don't know how many games we'll win next year. I'm not projecting. I'm not giving you a timetable. But just with hard work and strength and conditioning and better coaching and the guys buying in — you get to .500, all of a sudden, you've made the program relevant again. Because what you want to do is you want to be the school that's 10-2 in the state of Kansas. Around here, they won't even mention them. Why wouldn't you mention them? They're 10-2 and you're 2-10, that's who you have to beat! You gotta beat them in recruiting and you gotta beat them on the field.

Yes he is...5yrs then he is out.  

Also, .500 is a pretty shitty goal.  I understand realism, but not what I would want to hear from my incoming coach.  However, he hasn't said much that would excite me if I was a KU'er.  Charlie is pretty fantastic at setting a low, cane-friendly, bar and getting the locals excited about it and on board.  Really confirms that most EMAJ'ers only care about FB to the extent that it doesn't embarrass them when speaking with fans of KSU or MU.  Being able to say they are .500 and bowling will be a warm blanket for them.  

[Sandstone Outcropping]

Really, unless you're looking for it, you don't even notice the cane.

"reasons to order" = 

That's really a firesale on tix.

LHCBS is going to destroy him for forgetting the "order"

[AbeFroman]

Also, .500 is a pretty shitty goal.  I understand realism, but not what I would want to hear from my incoming coach.  However, he hasn't said much that would excite me if I was a KU'er.  Charlie is pretty fantastic at setting a low, cane-friendly, bar and getting the locals excited about it and on board.  Really confirms that most EMAJ'ers only care about FB to the extent that it doesn't embarrass them when speaking with fans of KSU or MU.  Being able to say they are .500 and bowling will be a warm blanket for them.  

Why play for 2-10 when 6-6 is available? 

[Cartierfor3]

Do you think constantly talking about K-State was a condition of his hire?  He can't already be THIS obsessed with us can  he?

[Rage Against the McKee]

He seems obsessed with us:

"But the biggest issue is, you're 2-10. Kansas State is 10-2. Obviously you can win in this state. So I'm saying to myself, you're coming to a school that's 2-10. The other school is 10-2. Just think about it. If you, in one year, you get to .500, you went from 2-10 to 6-6 —v I don't know how many games we'll win next year. I'm not projecting. I'm not giving you a timetable. But just with hard work and strength and conditioning and better coaching and the guys buying in — you get to .500, all of a sudden, you've made the program relevant again. Because what you want to do is you want to be the school that's 10-2 in the state of Kansas. Around here, they won't even mention them. Why wouldn't you mention them? They're 10-2 and you're 2-10, that's who you have to beat! You gotta beat them in recruiting and you gotta beat them on the field.

Yes he is...5yrs then he is out.  

Also, .500 is a pretty shitty goal.  I understand realism, but not what I would want to hear from my incoming coach.  However, he hasn't said much that would excite me if I was a KU'er.  Charlie is pretty fantastic at setting a low, cane-friendly, bar and getting the locals excited about it and on board.  Really confirms that most EMAJ'ers only care about FB to the extent that it doesn't embarrass them when speaking with fans of KSU or MU.  Being able to say they are .500 and bowling will be a warm blanket for them.  

Going .500 in his first year would be a heck of an accomplishment.

[kostakio]

It's got to kill the KU people that their new coach is basically saying he aspries to be us.   He doesn't say they want to win championships or be better then 10-2 he just says he wants to be the 10-2 team in the state.   We were 10-2 this year and it was pretty cool but I want more I'd like to win the big 12 I'd like to play for a national title and I'm prett sure Snyder does too.  He's not happy just saying we're 10-2 and they're 2-10.  

[Rage Against the McKee]

Really, unless you're looking for it, you don't even notice the cane.

"reasons to order" = 

Convenient Payment Plans available NOW!

The most expensive ticket is $300. If I ever need a payment plan for a $300 purchase, just shoot me.

[CNS]

A friend of mine does some sports related marketing work in the KC area.  He told me last week that his firm's research has shown that the avg KU fan family includes 4.8 kids, 2.1 fathers, one mother, and 8 KU related tattoos.  If you had to somehow account for $300 per ticket x 7.9 family members, still make payments on the new bad ass Rock Chalk calf tattoo while paying rent on your trailer lot, you might be glad there are payment options available. 

[Rage Against the McKee]

A friend of mine does some sports related marketing work in the KC area.  He told me last week that his firm's research has shown that the avg KU fan family includes 4.8 kids, 2.1 fathers, one mother, and 8 KU related tattoos.  If you had to somehow account for $300 per ticket x 7.9 family members, still make payments on the new bad ass Rock Chalk calf tattoo while paying rent on your trailer lot, you might be glad there are payment options available. 

The Rock Chalk Family plan is $350.

[The Whale]

It's got to kill the KU people that their new coach is basically saying he aspries to be us.   He doesn't say they want to win championships or be better then 10-2 he just says he wants to be the 10-2 team in the state.   We were 10-2 this year and it was pretty cool but I want more I'd like to win the big 12 I'd like to play for a national title and I'm prett sure Snyder does too.  He's not happy just saying we're 10-2 and they're 2-10.  

He's only planning on being there 5 years.  Expecting a Natty Champ or even a Big XII title in the that timeframe would be ridiculous. 

Set the bar low, acheive the low goals, get to a bowl game or two, and go out a hero.

[CNS]

A friend of mine does some sports related marketing work in the KC area.  He told me last week that his firm's research has shown that the avg KU fan family includes 4.8 kids, 2.1 fathers, one mother, and 8 KU related tattoos.  If you had to somehow account for $300 per ticket x 7.9 family members, still make payments on the new bad ass Rock Chalk calf tattoo while paying rent on your trailer lot, you might be glad there are payment options available. 

The Rock Chalk Family plan is $350.

Prob won't cover all 4.8 kids and or all 2.1 fathers.  Maybe half of those at best? 

[MadCat]

I don't think Weis really understands Snyder's work habits or meal schedule.  Until then, he'll spend 5 years wondering how K-State ever got to 10-2.