Whoever decided we shouldn't run the ball at the end...

[Pendergast]

If there was one stretch that sticks out to me as being where KSU lost the game it was after we got the pick-6 to go up by ten and promptly gave it all back.  The end was desperation that nearly got us the win.  I think I would have tried a run on 1st down with 12 sec left but that doesn't mean that passing 3 times is a bad option.  You are giving yourself three chances to complete a 5-yard pass. 

Sucks to see the Cats lose, would have been a great win.

The Klein INT was the worst single play of the night in the game. IMHO. But he more than made up for it (and the fumble) with the rest of his play. IMHO.

Disagree, Blackmon on a slant scoring when we were up by one in the fourth was pretty pitiful.

I would put that as a very close second. No idea why we had the safeties so wide there.

Zim jumped the flag route with the best receiver in the nation streaking down the middle.  It hurts your brain to just think about it.

[Dr Rick Daris]

If there was one stretch that sticks out to me as being where KSU lost the game it was after we got the pick-6 to go up by ten and promptly gave it all back.  The end was desperation that nearly got us the win.  I think I would have tried a run on 1st down with 12 sec left but that doesn't mean that passing 3 times is a bad option.  You are giving yourself three chances to complete a 5-yard pass. 

Sucks to see the Cats lose, would have been a great win.

i don't have an issue with passing three times. that's fine. eating up seven of the twelve seconds on a rough ridin' fade route to a freshman wide receiver that isn't even six feet tall on the first play of that possession was ridiculous. we were insanely, insanely lucky to get a third play out of that deal.

[kso_FAN]

If there was one stretch that sticks out to me as being where KSU lost the game it was after we got the pick-6 to go up by ten and promptly gave it all back.  The end was desperation that nearly got us the win.  I think I would have tried a run on 1st down with 12 sec left but that doesn't mean that passing 3 times is a bad option.  You are giving yourself three chances to complete a 5-yard pass. 

Sucks to see the Cats lose, would have been a great win.

The Klein INT was the worst single play of the night in the game. IMHO. But he more than made up for it (and the fumble) with the rest of his play. IMHO.

Disagree, Blackmon on a slant scoring when we were up by one in the fourth was pretty pitiful.

I would put that as a very close second. No idea why we had the safeties so wide there.

Zim jumped the flag route with the best receiver in the nation streaking down the middle.  It hurts your brain to just think about it.

Yeah, no idea what he saw/read there. And his missed tackle on Randle was really bad.

[Pendergast]

If there was one stretch that sticks out to me as being where KSU lost the game it was after we got the pick-6 to go up by ten and promptly gave it all back.  The end was desperation that nearly got us the win.  I think I would have tried a run on 1st down with 12 sec left but that doesn't mean that passing 3 times is a bad option.  You are giving yourself three chances to complete a 5-yard pass. 

Sucks to see the Cats lose, would have been a great win.

The Klein INT was the worst single play of the night in the game. IMHO. But he more than made up for it (and the fumble) with the rest of his play. IMHO.

Disagree, Blackmon on a slant scoring when we were up by one in the fourth was pretty pitiful.

I would put that as a very close second. No idea why we had the safeties so wide there.

Zim jumped the flag route with the best receiver in the nation streaking down the middle.  It hurts your brain to just think about it.

Yeah, no idea what he saw/read there. And his missed tackle on Randle was really bad.

Images of Marcus Watts flashed through my head on that missed tackle.

[mcmwcat]

If there was one stretch that sticks out to me as being where KSU lost the game it was after we got the pick-6 to go up by ten and promptly gave it all back.  The end was desperation that nearly got us the win.  I think I would have tried a run on 1st down with 12 sec left but that doesn't mean that passing 3 times is a bad option.  You are giving yourself three chances to complete a 5-yard pass. 

Sucks to see the Cats lose, would have been a great win.

The Klein INT was the worst single play of the night in the game. IMHO. But he more than made up for it (and the fumble) with the rest of his play. IMHO.

Disagree, Blackmon on a slant scoring when we were up by one in the fourth was pretty pitiful.

I would put that as a very close second. No idea why we had the safeties so wide there.

Zim jumped the flag route with the best receiver in the nation streaking down the middle.  It hurts your brain to just think about it.

Yeah, no idea what he saw/read there. And his missed tackle on Randle was really bad.

Images of Marcus Watts flashed through my head on that missed tackle.

it was the best thing that could have happened to ksu in that situation.  he makes that tackle then OSU runs out the clock and kicks a FG giving us no chance to get the ball back

[Dr Rick Daris]

I blame tyson hartman and so should you.

i'm assuming you're either kidding or related to zimmerman.

[Andy]

If there was one stretch that sticks out to me as being where KSU lost the game it was after we got the pick-6 to go up by ten and promptly gave it all back.  The end was desperation that nearly got us the win.  I think I would have tried a run on 1st down with 12 sec left but that doesn't mean that passing 3 times is a bad option.  You are giving yourself three chances to complete a 5-yard pass. 

Sucks to see the Cats lose, would have been a great win.

The Klein INT was the worst single play of the night in the game. IMHO. But he more than made up for it (and the fumble) with the rest of his play. IMHO.

Disagree, Blackmon on a slant scoring when we were up by one in the fourth was pretty pitiful.

I would put that as a very close second. No idea why we had the safeties so wide there.

Zim jumped the flag route with the best receiver in the nation streaking down the middle.  It hurts your brain to just think about it.

Yeah, no idea what he saw/read there. And his missed tackle on Randle was really bad.

Images of Marcus Watts flashed through my head on that missed tackle.

it was the best thing that could have happened to ksu in that situation.  he makes that tackle then OSU runs out the clock and kicks a FG giving us no chance to get the ball back

what i was thinking.  once they got in easy fg range, just let them score.  its just hard to tell if he was really trying or not.  lol.

[Pendergast]

Images of Marcus Watts flashed through my head on that missed tackle.

it was the best thing that could have happened to ksu in that situation.  he makes that tackle then OSU runs out the clock and kicks a FG giving us no chance to get the ball back

We've blocked a lot of field goals though, and I wouldn't have been so pissed with that ending.  We also had one TO so we could have made them kick off.

[nicname]

If there was one stretch that sticks out to me as being where KSU lost the game it was after we got the pick-6 to go up by ten and promptly gave it all back.  The end was desperation that nearly got us the win.  I think I would have tried a run on 1st down with 12 sec left but that doesn't mean that passing 3 times is a bad option.  You are giving yourself three chances to complete a 5-yard pass. 

Sucks to see the Cats lose, would have been a great win.

i don't have an issue with passing three times. that's fine. eating up seven of the twelve seconds on a rough ridin' fade route to a freshman wide receiver that isn't even six feet tall on the first play of that possession was ridiculous. we were insanely, insanely lucky to get a third play out of that deal.

yeah, i was expecting the fade to harper to be the last play but we got an extra second.  still, the fade to lockett prob doesnt normally take 7 seconds so it all averages out. 

[Cire]

White ks kids lost this game for us

[Fuktard]

Didn't have a huge problem with the last 3 plays, BUT I would have liked to have seen us run it on 1st, call time out, pass on 2nd, and then run again on 3rd down.  I really think that would have been preferable to 3 straight passes and I think we would have scored.

[OregonSmock]

Klein seems to always find a way to gain an extra two or three yards when he runs the ball, and OSU's defense couldn't contain his scrambling ability at all last night.  I agree with the OP... this is a case where the coaching staff tried to get too cute with their play-calling at the end, and instead of calling a QB scramble (which had been working all night), they elected to try to "out-smart" Bill Young (OSU's d-coordinator) with a few passing plays. 

[mcmwcat]

lol.  what play is the "qb scramble"

[OregonSmock]

lol.  what play is the "qb scramble"

It's not really a scramble, but it's the play where Klein lines up in a Wildcat style package and basically plays RB. 

[wetwillie]

How could snyder not known to run the qb waggle from Madden 96

[mcmwcat]

lol.  what play is the "qb scramble"

It's not really a scramble, but it's the play where Klein lines up in a Wildcat style package and basically plays RB. 

agree.  the one where Wilson and Hubert line up directly in front and to the right of Klien.  just try and power forward and get a quick TO if you don't get in.  from there you have a shorter field and if you get a 3rd down have a more viable run/pass option on the last play.

and if you are going to pass 3 times you might want to get your 6'8" TEs involved.

[OregonSmock]

How could snyder not known to run the qb waggle from Madden 96

Klein also has success when K-State lines up in trips formation and allows him to roll out of the pocket and either pass or run.  Either way, he should have had the chance to run it in last night from five yards out.  All of you guys defending the play-calling at the end remind me of all the Bill Self nut-huggers on phog.net.  No ability to think outside the box.  

[kim carnes]

If we would have ran it and got stopped everyone would be screaming that we should have thrown it.

[OregonSmock]

If we would have ran it and got stopped everyone would be screaming that we should have thrown it.

If the run doesn't work, you call a timeout and run the QB draw/play action to the TE/jump pass play.  

[pike]

Let's face it, our HOF head coach really mumped up the last 15 seconds

[EMAWmeister]

I guess my only complaint is that it didn't look like a controlled, set play.  It was just a panicked, backyard football style play that lead to lots of confusion.