Whoever decided we shouldn't run the ball at the end...

[Dr Rick Daris]

I don't know how many seconds it actually took, but that fade to Lockett seemed like it took a long time.

yeah. it took 7 and i have to think that a fade route to a freshman receiver that isn't even six feet tall with the ball being thrown by collin klein probably wasn't the best choice in that situation. still got three plays which is all you could expect given the time left so it didn't really matter i guess. still painful. momentum. no time. fade to a 5 11" freshman. uggggh.

[OB_Won]

We had one time out.

We passed the ball with 5 seconds because if we ran it without it resulting in a TD the game is over.

Criticize Klein for not running on the last play when the play broke down, but I don't see how the play calling itself cost us this game.

How did we move the ball all game long?  How did throwing the ball work out?  It's not even a question of what they should have done.  You have one play, 5 yards to go, you go with what works.

Picking up 5 yards with corners sitting back 5-10 yards and safeties sitting back 12-15 yards is a hell of lot easier than everybody pressing or within 5 yards of the LOS.

[catzacker]

I blame tyson hartman and so should you.

[Pendergast]

We had one time out.

We passed the ball with 5 seconds because if we ran it without it resulting in a TD the game is over.

Criticize Klein for not running on the last play when the play broke down, but I don't see how the play calling itself cost us this game.

How did we move the ball all game long?  How did throwing the ball work out?  It's not even a question of what they should have done.  You have one play, 5 yards to go, you go with what works.

Picking up 5 yards with corners sitting back 5-10 yards and safeties sitting back 12-15 yards is a hell of lot easier than everybody pressing or within 5 yards of the LOS.

Great point, how many RUSHING touchdowns did we have again?

[wetwillie]

I blame tyson hartman and so should you.

don't you let one of his y's off the hook. don't you rough ridin' do it.

[Dr Rick Daris]

The plays were bad because they didn't work.

I likely would've ran the ball with 12 seconds left when we still had the timeout, but I don't think it was some horribly stupid decision to throw. If anything on the last play we had a miscommunication because neither reciever broke out into the corner of the endzone. I didn't mind the fade to Harper or Lockett honestly, we tried to get the ball to our 2 best recievers.

This was simply a TEAM loss, neither the defense nor the offense made enough plays to beat a team as talented as OSU, especially on the road.

seriously? a fade route that takes a lot of seconds off the clock to a freshman wide receiver that isn't even six feet tall when you have been gashing them on the run w/ a timeout still left and collin klein (like him a lot) is the one throwing the ball and you don't think it was a bad call?

[chum1]

I don't trust our players to run the ball and then call the timeout.  They would have mumped something up.

[swish1]

We had one time out.

We passed the ball with 5 seconds because if we ran it without it resulting in a TD the game is over.

Criticize Klein for not running on the last play when the play broke down, but I don't see how the play calling itself cost us this game.

How did we move the ball all game long?  How did throwing the ball work out?  It's not even a question of what they should have done.  You have one play, 5 yards to go, you go with what works.

hey numbnuts, we threw the ball better today than we had all year long.  we moved the ball by being somewhat balanced for once.  this loss cant be blamed on the offense or the defense but rather the fact that we arent as athletic as osu.  if we were in the hay day of the dod we would have redshirted lockett. instead hes our best receiver...  lack of talent is why we lost to a superior talented osu team.

[Pendergast]

We had one time out.

We passed the ball with 5 seconds because if we ran it without it resulting in a TD the game is over.

Criticize Klein for not running on the last play when the play broke down, but I don't see how the play calling itself cost us this game.

How did we move the ball all game long?  How did throwing the ball work out?  It's not even a question of what they should have done.  You have one play, 5 yards to go, you go with what works.

hey numbnuts, we threw the ball better today than we had all year long.  we moved the ball by being somewhat balanced for once.  this loss cant be blamed on the offense or the defense but rather the fact that we arent as athletic as osu.  if we were in the hay day of the dod we would have redshirted lockett. instead hes our best receiver...  lack of talent is why we lost to a superior talented osu team.

Hey Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) piece of crap, this isn't about who lost the game, it's about how rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) the play calling was at the end of the game.  It's not a rough ridin' difficult concept to grasp.

[pike]

LHC Bill Snyder lost this game. 3 throws that close to the goal line is not our forte, and I don't see why we didn't run it at least once.

[Dr Rick Daris]

We had one time out.

We passed the ball with 5 seconds because if we ran it without it resulting in a TD the game is over.

Criticize Klein for not running on the last play when the play broke down, but I don't see how the play calling itself cost us this game.

How did we move the ball all game long?  How did throwing the ball work out?  It's not even a question of what they should have done.  You have one play, 5 yards to go, you go with what works.

hey numbnuts, we threw the ball better today than we had all year long.  we moved the ball by being somewhat balanced for once.  this loss cant be blamed on the offense or the defense but rather the fact that we arent as athletic as osu.  if we were in the hay day of the dod we would have redshirted lockett. instead hes our best receiver...  lack of talent is why we lost to a superior talented osu team.

i think it's entirely possible that our best wide receiver hasn't played in the last five games and no one knows why.

[swish1]

We had one time out.

We passed the ball with 5 seconds because if we ran it without it resulting in a TD the game is over.

Criticize Klein for not running on the last play when the play broke down, but I don't see how the play calling itself cost us this game.

How did we move the ball all game long?  How did throwing the ball work out?  It's not even a question of what they should have done.  You have one play, 5 yards to go, you go with what works.

hey numbnuts, we threw the ball better today than we had all year long.  we moved the ball by being somewhat balanced for once.  this loss cant be blamed on the offense or the defense but rather the fact that we arent as athletic as osu.  if we were in the hay day of the dod we would have redshirted lockett. instead hes our best receiver...  lack of talent is why we lost to a superior talented osu team.

Hey Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) piece of crap, this isn't about who lost the game, it's about how rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) the play calling was at the end of the game.  It's not a rough ridin' difficult concept to grasp.

LOL.  so you expect 5 yards per carry?  the playcalling at the end of the game fell in line with what we had done all game long.  its not a rough ridin' difficult concept to grasp.

[wabash909]

We had one time out.

We passed the ball with 5 seconds because if we ran it without it resulting in a TD the game is over.

Criticize Klein for not running on the last play when the play broke down, but I don't see how the play calling itself cost us this game.

How did we move the ball all game long?  How did throwing the ball work out?  It's not even a question of what they should have done.  You have one play, 5 yards to go, you go with what works.

Dude, I hear you.  It's just a calculated risk with a handful of seconds on the clock.  It definitely backfired.

As much as I may be upset over the failure to execute on those last two plays, it pales in comparison to the horrendous performance by the Tim Tibesar absurdity of a defense we witnessed tonight.  That's what cost us the game.

 

[Dugout DickStone]

I miss Brod.

[chum1]

LHC Bill Snyder lost this game. 3 throws that close to the goal line is not our forte, and I don't see why we didn't run it at least once.

On the other hand, take three throws and you'd like to think that we could convert one of them.

[catzacker]

Criticizing the play calling at the end is fair, but it is no why we lost.  I didn't neccesarily like any of the calls at all, but our defense is why we lost.  You should be questioning why Cosh thought man coverage with no blitz was a good idea.  THAT was entirely more stupid tha any play call at the end.

[swish1]

We had one time out.

We passed the ball with 5 seconds because if we ran it without it resulting in a TD the game is over.

Criticize Klein for not running on the last play when the play broke down, but I don't see how the play calling itself cost us this game.

How did we move the ball all game long?  How did throwing the ball work out?  It's not even a question of what they should have done.  You have one play, 5 yards to go, you go with what works.

hey numbnuts, we threw the ball better today than we had all year long.  we moved the ball by being somewhat balanced for once.  this loss cant be blamed on the offense or the defense but rather the fact that we arent as athletic as osu.  if we were in the hay day of the dod we would have redshirted lockett. instead hes our best receiver...  lack of talent is why we lost to a superior talented osu team.

i think it's entirely possible that our best wide receiver hasn't played in the last five games and no one knows why.

i wasnt including brod smith since he hasnt been playing.

[Pendergast]

We had one time out.

We passed the ball with 5 seconds because if we ran it without it resulting in a TD the game is over.

Criticize Klein for not running on the last play when the play broke down, but I don't see how the play calling itself cost us this game.

How did we move the ball all game long?  How did throwing the ball work out?  It's not even a question of what they should have done.  You have one play, 5 yards to go, you go with what works.

hey numbnuts, we threw the ball better today than we had all year long.  we moved the ball by being somewhat balanced for once.  this loss cant be blamed on the offense or the defense but rather the fact that we arent as athletic as osu.  if we were in the hay day of the dod we would have redshirted lockett. instead hes our best receiver...  lack of talent is why we lost to a superior talented osu team.

Hey Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) piece of crap, this isn't about who lost the game, it's about how rough ridin' Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) the play calling was at the end of the game.  It's not a rough ridin' difficult concept to grasp.

LOL.  so you expect 5 yards per carry?  the playcalling at the end of the game fell in line with what we had done all game long.  its not a rough ridin' difficult concept to grasp.

Collin Klein, 29 carries for 144 yards, 5.0 yards per carry average, and 3 rushing touchdowns.  Any other stupid rough ridin' questions?

[kso_FAN]

We had one time out.

We passed the ball with 5 seconds because if we ran it without it resulting in a TD the game is over.

Criticize Klein for not running on the last play when the play broke down, but I don't see how the play calling itself cost us this game.

How did we move the ball all game long?  How did throwing the ball work out?  It's not even a question of what they should have done.  You have one play, 5 yards to go, you go with what works.

Dude, I hear you.  It's just a calculated risk with a handful of seconds on the clock.  It definitely backfired.

As much as I may be upset over the failure to execute on those last two plays, it pales in comparison to the horrendous performance by the Tim Tibesar absurdity of a defense we witnessed tonight.  That's what cost us the game.

 

To be fair, Tibs (or last year's defense) would've gave up 700 yards.

We did an admirable job stopping OSU's running game (besides Randall's last run) and forcing them to beat us with the pass. Weeden and company are just good enough to beat us regardless.

[nicname]

If there was one stretch that sticks out to me as being where KSU lost the game it was after we got the pick-6 to go up by ten and promptly gave it all back.  The end was desperation that nearly got us the win.  I think I would have tried a run on 1st down with 12 sec left but that doesn't mean that passing 3 times isn't a bad option.  You are giving yourself three chances to complete a 5-yard pass.  

Sucks to see the Cats lose, would have been a great win.

edit: isn't a bad option

[kso_FAN]

If there was one stretch that sticks out to me as being where KSU lost the game it was after we got the pick-6 to go up by ten and promptly gave it all back.  The end was desperation that nearly got us the win.  I think I would have tried a run on 1st down with 12 sec left but that doesn't mean that passing 3 times is a bad option.  You are giving yourself three chances to complete a 5-yard pass. 

Sucks to see the Cats lose, would have been a great win.

The Klein INT was the worst single play of the night in the game. IMHO. But he more than made up for it (and the fumble) with the rest of his play. IMHO.

[ednksu]

I don't trust our players to run the ball and then call the timeout.  They would have mumped something up.

ummm.....Lockett's long pass @ KU before the half?

[Pendergast]

If there was one stretch that sticks out to me as being where KSU lost the game it was after we got the pick-6 to go up by ten and promptly gave it all back.  The end was desperation that nearly got us the win.  I think I would have tried a run on 1st down with 12 sec left but that doesn't mean that passing 3 times is a bad option.  You are giving yourself three chances to complete a 5-yard pass. 

Sucks to see the Cats lose, would have been a great win.

The Klein INT was the worst single play of the night in the game. IMHO. But he more than made up for it (and the fumble) with the rest of his play. IMHO.

Disagree, Blackmon on a slant scoring when we were up by one in the fourth was pretty pitiful.

[kso_FAN]

If there was one stretch that sticks out to me as being where KSU lost the game it was after we got the pick-6 to go up by ten and promptly gave it all back.  The end was desperation that nearly got us the win.  I think I would have tried a run on 1st down with 12 sec left but that doesn't mean that passing 3 times is a bad option.  You are giving yourself three chances to complete a 5-yard pass. 

Sucks to see the Cats lose, would have been a great win.

The Klein INT was the worst single play of the night in the game. IMHO. But he more than made up for it (and the fumble) with the rest of his play. IMHO.

Disagree, Blackmon on a slant scoring when we were up by one in the fourth was pretty pitiful.

I would put that as a very close second. No idea why we had the safeties so wide there.

[OB_Won]

We had one time out.

We passed the ball with 5 seconds because if we ran it without it resulting in a TD the game is over.

Criticize Klein for not running on the last play when the play broke down, but I don't see how the play calling itself cost us this game.

 

How did we move the ball all game long?  How did throwing the ball work out?  It's not even a question of what they should have done.  You have one play, 5 yards to go, you go with what works.

Picking up 5 yards with corners sitting back 5-10 yards and safeties sitting back 12-15 yards is a hell of lot easier than everybody pressing or within 5 yards of the LOS.

Great point, how many RUSHING touchdowns did we have again?

I would have liked to see a run with the time out left, and then a pass.  However, we got 3 plays off.  If we were gonna pass 3 times I might have tried a jump ball at the back of the end zone with our 6-8 TE at least once. Who knows man.  I aint gonna hate though.  We had 507 yards of offense to their 575.  Our talent mismatch dictates we shouldn't have been within 21 points of that game.  Should have fired Cosh and gotten a dynamic, young, d-coordinator who can recruit his ass off.  Again, easier said then done, but we didn't even try to my knowledge.