Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse

[CNS]

Yeah, financially punishing football punishes all sports at all schools in the country except maybe a dozen or so.

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Their strategy of planning a game against Hawaii or something at the end of each regular season could help mitigate the bowl ban. But there's just not a lot of instate talent. And it's easy to see urban Meyer or Brady hoke picking off the best players.

Will the Big 10 let them do this?  It's not like the SEC where they play a late non-con.

I disagree about the talent in PA.  PA is actually a hotbed of talent for college football.  Their current roster is over 50% PA, isn't it.

Big 10's got a Saturday set for their 'ship game.  Penn State knows it won't be playing in it.  They could probably plan a trip to Hawaii that weekend.

Seems like that would be an issue with the Big 10 network, or is it a loop hole if it's a road non-con game?

I don't know what one thing would have to do with the other, but I haven't done any research. 

When I played PS2 football with the 'Cats back in the day, I'd routinely schedule games at Hawaii because of the rule at that time that would let that be a bonus game on top of the 11 allowed.

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I don't like how the NCAA is only punishing Penn State football. Nothing occurred to give Penn State football a competitive advantage, and the coverup was perpetuated by the athletic department, so why not give similar penalties to all Penn State sports? That would make more sense to me.

Because it was the deification of football at Penn State that led to kids continually being raped long after it should've been squashed.

Just for clarification's sake, how long should it take to stop kids from being raped?

After the first hint that your D-Coordinator might be a pedophile.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I don't like how the NCAA is only punishing Penn State football. Nothing occurred to give Penn State football a competitive advantage, and the coverup was perpetuated by the athletic department, so why not give similar penalties to all Penn State sports? That would make more sense to me.

The Freeh reports biggest finding was that Joe Paterno personally scuttled the idea to go to the cops.

I thought Joe Paterno coached football?

The report outed Paterno as a scumbag, but this goes way beyond Paterno. Regardless of the power Paterno had over the university, it was ultimately the decision of the athletic director and university president to cover this up. The punishment should touch all sports because all sports fall under the umbrella of the AD.

Good point about the $60 million affecting all sports, Rusty.

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NK, it's sanctioning football (directly) because it was the culture of football at Penn State that was the root of the problem.  The assistant hoops coach wasn't going to be allowed to conduct school-sponsored child rape for nearly a decade, because nobody gives a crap about that team (that we still lost a hoops recruit to ).

[Rage Against the McKee]

NK, it's sanctioning football (directly) because it was the culture of football at Penn State that was the root of the problem.  The assistant hoops coach wasn't going to be allowed to conduct school-sponsored child rape for nearly a decade, because nobody gives a crap about that team (that we still lost a hoops recruit to ).

Yeah, I get that, and I'm probably too far into #burnitdown territory to be fair at this point. I just feel like the entire university should suffer greatly for this, rather than just the football team, even though this situation was created almost solely due to the football team. Hopefully the civil suits provide some level of satisfaction.

[felix rex]

Their strategy of planning a game against Hawaii or something at the end of each regular season could help mitigate the bowl ban. But there's just not a lot of instate talent. And it's easy to see urban Meyer or Brady hoke picking off the best players.

Will the Big 10 let them do this?  It's not like the SEC where they play a late non-con.

I disagree about the talent in PA.  PA is actually a hotbed of talent for college football.  Their current roster is over 50% PA, isn't it.

They have 8 4-stars instate this year per rivals. That's not Kansas bad, but it's not like Ohio (20), Virginia (13), or Louisiana (16). And nothing like Texas (38), California (33) or Florida (51!).

Keeping their current class and current roster will keep them solvent for a few years. But after that group filters out, the talent and depth is gonna take a D1AA dive. If they don't schedule for cupcake wins in the noncon in years 4-7, its hard to see them being bowl eligible.

[Cire]

how many 4 stars does alabama have?

[SkinnyBenny]

I know a guy who goes to Penn State and he's always on FB trying to make it not seem as bad as it is. Lately he's really been pimping this USA swimming scandal or whatever.
http://www.wbal.com/article/92453/12/template-story/USA-Swimming-Scandal-Worse-Than-Penn-State

[Mr Bread]

how many 4 stars does alabama have?

Seven 4s and two 5s.  Kansas has one 4.  Illinois has seven 4s.  Neither have any 5s. 

[Cartierfor3]

I know a guy who goes to Penn State and he's always on FB trying to make it not seem as bad as it is. Lately he's really been pimping this USA swimming scandal or whatever.
http://www.wbal.com/article/92453/12/template-story/USA-Swimming-Scandal-Worse-Than-Penn-State

cut and paste his best posts

[DQ12]

how many 4 stars does alabama have?

Seven 4s and two 5s.  Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s.  Neither have any 5s.

Oh my!
 

[Mr Bread]

how many 4 stars does alabama have?

Seven 4s and two 5s.  Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s.  Neither have any 5s.

Oh my!
 

Just think, you'll be smack dab in the middle of all that talent.  Practically swimming in a tepid pool of football studs.  How will you ever focus on your studies, young Dlew?  You better rough ridin' buckle down. 

[Dugout DickStone]

I know a guy who goes to Penn State and he's always on FB trying to make it not seem as bad as it is. Lately he's really been pimping this USA swimming scandal or whatever.
http://www.wbal.com/article/92453/12/template-story/USA-Swimming-Scandal-Worse-Than-Penn-State

Time to take down that USA swimming coach statue outside of their huge arena.

[slobber]

I know a guy who goes to Penn State and he's always on FB trying to make it not seem as bad as it is. Lately he's really been pimping this USA swimming scandal or whatever.
http://www.wbal.com/article/92453/12/template-story/USA-Swimming-Scandal-Worse-Than-Penn-State

Time to take down that USA swimming coach statue outside of their huge arena.

You'll have to do it on a Sunday morning when nobody is expecting it.

[DQ12]

how many 4 stars does alabama have?

Seven 4s and two 5s.  Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s.  Neither have any 5s.

Oh my!
 

Just think, you'll be smack dab in the middle of all that talent.  Practically swimming in a tepid pool of football studs.  How will you ever focus on your studies, young Dlew?  You better rough ridin' buckle down.

I don't think football will steal too much of my time with this home schedule:
   
09/01/12    vs. Western Michigan    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
09/15/12   vs. Charleston Southern    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
09/22/12   vs. Louisiana Tech    MEMORIAL STADIUM   7:00 p.m. CT
09/29/12   vs. Penn State (Foundation Day) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA
10/27/12   vs. Indiana (Homecoming) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
11/10/12   vs. Minnesota (Dad's Day) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA
11/17/12   vs. Purdue *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA

I mean, just what the hell is that? 

[Skipper44]

how many 4 stars does alabama have?

Seven 4s and two 5s.  Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s.  Neither have any 5s.

Oh my!
 

Just think, you'll be smack dab in the middle of all that talent.  Practically swimming in a tepid pool of football studs.  How will you ever focus on your studies, young Dlew?  You better rough ridin' buckle down.

I don't think football will steal too much of my time with this home schedule:
   
09/01/12    vs. Western Michigan    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
09/15/12   vs. Charleston Southern    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
09/22/12   vs. Louisiana Tech    MEMORIAL STADIUM   7:00 p.m. CT
09/29/12   vs. Penn State (Foundation Day) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA
10/27/12   vs. Indiana (Homecoming) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
11/10/12   vs. Minnesota (Dad's Day) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA
11/17/12   vs. Purdue *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA

I mean, just what the hell is that?

is that schedule free with a valid student ID?

[Mr Bread]

how many 4 stars does alabama have?

Seven 4s and two 5s.  Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s.  Neither have any 5s.

Oh my!
 

Just think, you'll be smack dab in the middle of all that talent.  Practically swimming in a tepid pool of football studs.  How will you ever focus on your studies, young Dlew?  You better rough ridin' buckle down.

I don't think football will steal too much of my time with this home schedule:
   
09/01/12    vs. Western Michigan    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
09/15/12   vs. Charleston Southern    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
09/22/12   vs. Louisiana Tech    MEMORIAL STADIUM   7:00 p.m. CT
09/29/12   vs. Penn State (Foundation Day) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA
10/27/12   vs. Indiana (Homecoming) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
11/10/12   vs. Minnesota (Dad's Day) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA
11/17/12   vs. Purdue *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA

I mean, just what the hell is that?

Winnable home games?    Also, all this talk of 4 stars was regarding indigenous state high school football talent in 2013, not on current college rosters.  Just so we're clear. 

[steve dave]

mt. west programs have a better home schedule than that POS 

[Pete]

Christ, Washburn get's either Pitt State or Northwest.  Saul's got better tix than Dlew.

[DQ12]

Christ, Washburn get's either Pitt State or Northwest.  Saul's got better tix than Dlew.

FTR, I'm not getting tix.  Just getting 'pak'd at tailgates and going to a game with my family when they come in town. 

I wouldn't think of going to a different game if I have any shot of watching EMAW during.

[Mr Bread]

Goddamnit, you guys.  All our best games are away: Arizona State, Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio State.  WTF do you want me to do about it?  I'll write a sternly worded letter to people of importance, but they will pay me no mind.  Just you watch, I'll do it and nothing will come of it.  I'll rough ridin' waste my time for goEMAW schedule elitists, then what?  rough ridin' nothing, that's what.  I might as well go scream at the moon for all the good it'd do me. 

[MadCat]

how many 4 stars does alabama have?

Seven 4s and two 5s.  Kansas has one 4. Illinois has seven 4s.  Neither have any 5s.

Oh my!
 

Just think, you'll be smack dab in the middle of all that talent.  Practically swimming in a tepid pool of football studs.  How will you ever focus on your studies, young Dlew?  You better rough ridin' buckle down.

I don't think football will steal too much of my time with this home schedule:
   
09/01/12    vs. Western Michigan    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
09/15/12   vs. Charleston Southern    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
09/22/12   vs. Louisiana Tech    MEMORIAL STADIUM   7:00 p.m. CT
09/29/12   vs. Penn State (Foundation Day) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA
10/27/12   vs. Indiana (Homecoming) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   11:00 a.m. CT
11/10/12   vs. Minnesota (Dad's Day) *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA
11/17/12   vs. Purdue *    MEMORIAL STADIUM   TBA

I mean, just what the hell is that?

I've been to one game there...the band was enjoyable.  I don't know how much has changed with the NCAA's hate for racial mascots.  CHIEEEEEEF!!!

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If I was there, I'd want to see #TeamOutlaw.

[Rage Against the McKee]

If I was there, I'd want to see #TeamOutlaw.

Yeah, it would be like Halloween came a month early.