Author Topic: Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse (Read 251195 times)

steve dave · « **Reply #1625 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:08:29 AM »

Quote from: Saulbadguy on July 23, 2012, 07:01:13 AM

Quote from: highway61 on July 23, 2012, 06:29:47 AM
My question is why does everybody suddenly forgets Michael Jackson was a child rapist the minute he dies, but Paterno continues to get the criticism he deserves?
MJ was innocent.

that's a fact.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #1626 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:13:40 AM »

45 minutes till the hammer drops! I suggest you spend that time going back and reading the first few pages of this thread when the scandal breaking was all in its infancy and junk. And do it while blaring "The Circle of Life" or something.

"storm"nut · « **Reply #1627 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:18:48 AM »

Wonder if the Big 10 kicks Penn State to the curb? If they do will they reach out to Notre Dame to "do the right thing" and join the Big 10 to fill the void?

Also Bet Penn State loses there AAU accreditation over this as well.

steve dave · « **Reply #1628 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:20:35 AM »

Quote from: "storm"nut on July 23, 2012, 07:18:48 AM

Also Bet Penn State loses there AAU accreditation over this as well.

the AAU doesn't give a crap about this stuff. BUT, a loss of research money as a result of this could get the ball rolling.

"storm"nut · « **Reply #1629 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:24:58 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on July 23, 2012, 07:20:35 AM

Quote from: "storm"nut on July 23, 2012, 07:18:48 AM
Also Bet Penn State loses there AAU accreditation over this as well.

the AAU doesn't give a crap about this stuff. BUT, a loss of research money as a result of this could get the ball rolling.

They will use the moral authority argument that the NCAA will use today. Have also heard that they could even lose there Department of Ed accreditation for this as well then that would kick them out of the NCAA all together.

steve dave · « **Reply #1630 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:26:21 AM »

Quote from: "storm"nut on July 23, 2012, 07:24:58 AM

Quote from: steve dave on July 23, 2012, 07:20:35 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on July 23, 2012, 07:18:48 AM
Also Bet Penn State loses there AAU accreditation over this as well.

the AAU doesn't give a crap about this stuff. BUT, a loss of research money as a result of this could get the ball rolling.

They will use the moral authority argument that the NCAA will use today. Have also heard that they could even lose there Department of Ed accreditation for this as well then that would kick them out of the NCAA all together.

well, you seem to know a lot about it stormnut

"storm"nut · « **Reply #1631 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:26:55 AM »

Ha, if the Big 10 did kick Penn State out, how long would it be until Mizzu fans will start talking about how they don't fit the culture of the SEC.

"storm"nut · « **Reply #1632 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:28:57 AM »

Quote from: steve dave on July 23, 2012, 07:26:21 AM

Quote from: "storm"nut on July 23, 2012, 07:24:58 AM
Quote from: steve dave on July 23, 2012, 07:20:35 AM
Quote from: "storm"nut on July 23, 2012, 07:18:48 AM
Also Bet Penn State loses there AAU accreditation over this as well.

the AAU doesn't give a crap about this stuff. BUT, a loss of research money as a result of this could get the ball rolling.

They will use the moral authority argument that the NCAA will use today. Have also heard that they could even lose there Department of Ed accreditation for this as well then that would kick them out of the NCAA all together.

well, you seem to know a lot about it stormnut

just speculating, like every other "dude"

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #1633 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:38:53 AM »

Streaming the pre-game right now on ESPN3.com.

Man. How many awesome tear jerker-y GameDay stories are there going to be about this whole thing?

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #1634 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:56:06 AM »

The NCAA is going to HAMMER . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . PENN STATE.

SkinnyBenny · « **Reply #1635 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:56:30 AM »

Also you can stream it here if you don't have TV or "WatchESPN".

http://www.ncaa.com/live/player?vid=2012/521

Dugout DickStone · « **Reply #1636 on:** July 23, 2012, 07:57:39 AM »

Quote from: Saulbadguy on July 23, 2012, 07:01:13 AM

Quote from: highway61 on July 23, 2012, 06:29:47 AM
My question is why does everybody suddenly forgets Michael Jackson was a child rapist the minute he dies, but Paterno continues to get the criticism he deserves?
MJ was innocent.

This. Big diff

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #1637 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:07:58 AM »

lol at how Dr. Ray emphasized "honesty", then paused and looked up.

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #1638 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:11:20 AM »

Fine: $60MM to endow abuse foundation (1 yr. gross revenue for FB)
4 yr Bowl/Post Season Ban
10 scholarship reduction for 4 years
All players can transfer
All current players can retain scholarship
Vacate all wins from 1998-2011
5 year probation
reserve right to sanction individuals after further criminal trials
Addition: 85 total scholarship per year cut to 65 per year (this was not stated in press conference, but was listed in press release).

ben ji · « **Reply #1639 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:13:39 AM »

Quote from: TheHamburglar on July 23, 2012, 08:11:20 AM

Fine: $60MM to endow abuse foundation (1 yr. gross revenue for FB)
4 yr Bowl/Post Season Ban
10 scholarship reduction for 4 years
All players can transfer
All current players can retain scholarship
Vacate all wins from 1998-2011
5 year probation
reserve right to sanction individuals after further criminal trials

They are done

catzacker · « **Reply #1640 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:14:35 AM »

Quote from: Pete on July 22, 2012, 10:02:49 PM

Quote from: catzacker on July 22, 2012, 08:55:21 PM
Maybe I missed it but where is penn state cool with ncaa penalties? You can't just disregard policies and process. The ncaa has no basis whatsoever to investgate penn state. Still haven't seen the rule they violated or the precedent for an investigation.

What precedent is there to criminal actions, such as in the case at hand, taken with the intent to bolster an NCAA program? That's what we have here. We have perhaps the most heinous crimes on earth, covered up, to preserve the standing of an NCAA program.

How on earth does that fail to fall within area in which the NCAA can act?

Penn State can still play football outside of the NCAA. They can still stage football events at their 80K stadium. The NCAA is merely saying that if you choose to wantonly fail to report child rape to protect the image of your program, then you have to pay if you still want to be in the NCAA.

Don't like it? Leave the NCAA. Problem solved.

yeah, get all that. just questioning whether the ncaa is the correct authoritative body to hand down punishment for this. seems like a court (civil or criminal) and possibly the DOE should be. I just kind of want it to come from a different organization than the one that said "oh, well, ya know, auburn and cam didn't really break any rules, cause, like Cam didn't know and stuff."

raquetcat · « **Reply #1641 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:14:55 AM »

Quote from: TheHamburglar on July 23, 2012, 08:11:20 AM

Fine: $60MM to endow abuse foundation (1 yr. gross revenue for FB)
4 yr Bowl/Post Season Ban
10 scholarship reduction for 4 years
All players can transfer
All current players can retain scholarship
Vacate all wins from 1998-2011
5 year probation
reserve right to sanction individuals after further criminal trials

BOOM!

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #1642 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:16:03 AM »

Now the big question becomes . . . does Penn State just accept this, or are they going to challenge this in court??

TBL · « **Reply #1643 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:16:16 AM »

Quote from: raquetcat on July 23, 2012, 08:14:55 AM

Quote from: TheHamburglar on July 23, 2012, 08:11:20 AM
Fine: $60MM to endow abuse foundation (1 yr. gross revenue for FB)
4 yr Bowl/Post Season Ban
10 scholarship reduction for 4 years
All players can transfer
All current players can retain scholarship
Vacate all wins from 1998-2011
5 year probation
reserve right to sanction individuals after further criminal trials

BOOM!

Burn it to the ground!!

WildcatNkilt · « **Reply #1644 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:16:31 AM »

Bill get on the phone! You have recruiting to do!

"storm"nut · « **Reply #1645 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:16:53 AM »

So this makes Bobby Bowden the coach with the most wins in D1 now, right?

ben ji · « **Reply #1646 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:18:04 AM »

Quote from: "storm"nut on July 23, 2012, 08:16:53 AM

So this makes Bobby Bowden the coach with the most wins in D1 now, right?

Congrats Bobby!

TheHamburglar · « **Reply #1647 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:18:12 AM »

Just said Penn State signed this decree.

TBL · « **Reply #1648 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:18:19 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on July 23, 2012, 08:16:03 AM

Now the big question becomes . . . does Penn State just accept this, or are they going to challenge this in court??

PSU already signed a consent decree to the penalties.

"storm"nut · « **Reply #1649 on:** July 23, 2012, 08:19:57 AM »

Quote from: sonofdaxjones on July 23, 2012, 08:16:03 AM

Now the big question becomes . . . does Penn State just accept this, or are they going to challenge this in court??

I think the general thought is that they would have already had to have agreed to these sanctions for the NCAA to announce them in the manner they are (not going through the normal channels)

Alum want to sue the NCAA however so we shall see.