Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse

[ednksu]

[chum1]

That's why I have decided to announce my retirement effective at the end of this season. At this moment the Board of Trustees should not spend a single minute discussing my status. They have far more important matters to address. I want to make this as easy for them as I possibly can.

eff you JoePa...trying to be noble about stepping down, as if it were for any other reason then to spare the BOT from "discussing his status." eff you straight to hell. He just wanted to do it on his terms, no matter the circumstances and the BOT said eff you. If he were able to stay and finish the season it would only diminish the focus and make it more of a circus than it already will be. BOT was right.

I like how he says he wants to make it as easy as he possibly can.  If that was true, he would have resigned immediately.  Such a douche.

[DQ12]

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[MakeItRain]

I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.

I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.

My god there's been hundreds of students and scores of media camped out at his house, how in the holy hell do you think they could have fired him in person?  Also with the nature of the situation why do you think he deserves that right?

ESPN reported that he was given a phone number by messenger and that number had two BOT members on the other end who did the deed.   

That is a CHICKEN crap way to fire this coach. 

Bring him in, get to him with police escorts either way. 

Okay let's disregard the obvious lack of common sense it would have been to fire the man in his home in front of hundreds of irrational possibly drunk students and televison cameras.  Let's ignore that since you aren't able to understand this seemingly basic concept.

Again he got fired for allowing a child predator to rape kids unreported and still hang around the school for over a decade after he knew it happened.  He let the rapist hang around this season after he knew a grand jury was investigating.  What about this says he deserves to be fired him what some people think is a dignified way?

[Panjandrum]

I find it really odd that Paterno was fired, but the guy that actually saw the assault still has a job.

So, if I get this right, the guy who saw the crime went to his boss (kept his job), who went to his boss (lost his job), and from there stuff gets legal.

I don't know all of the facts, so I'm not going to say what's right or wrong.  But at it's basest level, this just seems strange.

[MakeItRain]

I find it really odd that Paterno was fired, but the guy that actually saw the assault still has a job.

So, if I get this right, the guy who saw the crime went to his boss (kept his job), who went to his boss (lost his job), and from there stuff gets legal.

I don't know all of the facts, so I'm not going to say what's right or wrong.  But at it's basest level, this just seems strange.

The board are the only people around that could fire Paterno.  Frankly firing an assistant coach is far below the board.  He should and will be let go by the acting head coach or AD.

[ednksu]

I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.

I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.

My god there's been hundreds of students and scores of media camped out at his house, how in the holy hell do you think they could have fired him in person?  Also with the nature of the situation why do you think he deserves that right?

ESPN reported that he was given a phone number by messenger and that number had two BOT members on the other end who did the deed.   

That is a CHICKEN crap way to fire this coach. 

Bring him in, get to him with police escorts either way. 

Okay let's disregard the obvious lack of common sense it would have been to fire the man in his home in front of hundreds of irrational possibly drunk students and televison cameras.  Let's ignore that since you aren't able to understand this seemingly basic concept.

Again he got fired for allowing a child predator to rape kids unreported and still hang around the school for over a decade after he knew it happened.  He let the rapist hang around this season after he knew a grand jury was investigating.  What about this says he deserves to be fired him what some people think is a dignified way?

seriously eff you.  You are one of the worst with your chicken crap attempts at PI posters who disagree with you. 

Its rough ridin' ridiculous to put that scenario together in your mind.  You bring him in and you tell him to his face.  Its not like the police were out in force being busy doing other crap, escort him in.  People knew there was a meeting for the BOT tonight, so it would have been logical to meet with him no matter what the outcome. 

He reported the incident where he was told 'something sexual in nature' happened in the locker room.  He brought it to his superior's attention.  ESPN is even now reporting that when the conversations were had, Joe had no idea what the eff was going on.  At that point you have a confused old man who doesn't know what is happening and you want him to do what?  Seriously what?  The AD dropped the ball that is why he is being charged.  The eff head GTA saw it and left campus to let the creeper continue his rape.  Who really dropped the ball at this point.  The confused old man or the AD and the GTA/his family.

[DQ12]

Guys, I'd bet OK_Cat's graduate assistant friend get's fired too.  Stop pretending like you don't know he's going to get canned.

[ednksu]

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panoramic pic of protest @ PennSt

[swish1]

I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.

I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.

My god there's been hundreds of students and scores of media camped out at his house, how in the holy hell do you think they could have fired him in person?  Also with the nature of the situation why do you think he deserves that right?

ESPN reported that he was given a phone number by messenger and that number had two BOT members on the other end who did the deed.   

That is a CHICKEN crap way to fire this coach. 

Bring him in, get to him with police escorts either way. 

Okay let's disregard the obvious lack of common sense it would have been to fire the man in his home in front of hundreds of irrational possibly drunk students and televison cameras.  Let's ignore that since you aren't able to understand this seemingly basic concept.

Again he got fired for allowing a child predator to rape kids unreported and still hang around the school for over a decade after he knew it happened.  He let the rapist hang around this season after he knew a grand jury was investigating.  What about this says he deserves to be fired him what some people think is a dignified way?

seriously eff you.  You are one of the worst with your chicken crap attempts at PI posters who disagree with you. 

Its rough ridin' ridiculous to put that scenario together in your mind.  You bring him in and you tell him to his face.  Its not like the police were out in force being busy doing other crap, escort him in.  People knew there was a meeting for the BOT tonight, so it would have been logical to meet with him no matter what the outcome. 

He reported the incident where he was told 'something sexual in nature' happened in the locker room.  He brought it to his superior's attention.  ESPN is even now reporting that when the conversations were had, Joe had no idea what the eff was going on.  At that point you have a confused old man who doesn't know what is happening and you want him to do what?  Seriously what?  The AD dropped the ball that is why he is being charged.  The eff head GTA saw it and left campus to let the creeper continue his rape.  Who really dropped the ball at this point.  The confused old man or the AD and the GTA/his family.

you have to more or less agree with this...  not saying joe pa is completely innocent but its clear its not even possible that he is "legally culpable/liable" or someone would be considering filing charges against him like they are his bosses...

[Panjandrum]

I find it really odd that Paterno was fired, but the guy that actually saw the assault still has a job.

So, if I get this right, the guy who saw the crime went to his boss (kept his job), who went to his boss (lost his job), and from there stuff gets legal.

I don't know all of the facts, so I'm not going to say what's right or wrong.  But at it's basest level, this just seems strange.

The board are the only people around that could fire Paterno.  Frankly firing an assistant coach is far below the board.  He should and will be let go by the acting head coach or AD.

Yeah, but before today, I mean.

[ednksu]

ESPN reporting St Police, Other communities brought in cops b/c Penn cops unprepared. 

Things settling down.

[ednksu]

presser is up if you want to watch the BOT do its thing

[SdK]

You kill a snake by cutting of its head.

Paterno is the face of the University. Paterno IS Penn State. The best way to sever ties with this situation is to remove him immediately. Is he the only one to blame? No. With Bill having as much pull as he does here at KSU, do you not think Joe has similar if not more sway there? Joe had the power to do more and did not. This situation happened within the football complex, staff, etc. There is no way you don't get rid of him, no matter how it is done. If there was beef between Joe and the BOT, do you really think Joe is pissed that they just called? No. He's obviously been pissed at them before, and he them. I don't understand why anyone would expect quarter to be shown between enemies.

Growing old is a lot like being really young. These victims were really young and had their lives shattered. So they shattered his life in the symmetrical span of life.

This rioting is stupid. Where was the rioting when these allegations first came to light? I feel bad for the victims families, who I am assuming view this firing as justified having to watch this outcry. Joe lived his life, and had a good one. He had a dream job for a very long time. If in the end, he reflects on the manner in which he was let go as ruining his life prior too, he is a fool.

You are the company you keep, and well Paterno kept company with child molesters even after hearing about them being child molesters. Who wants to align themselves with anyone that has done that? Regardless of who or what they are.

[fatty fat fat]

What a horrible situation. 

[SwiftCat]

Those students are so blinded. Just absurd.

[j-von]

MIR is 100% correct, don't let these dumbsticks get you down.

[MakeItRain]

I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.

I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.

My god there's been hundreds of students and scores of media camped out at his house, how in the holy hell do you think they could have fired him in person?  Also with the nature of the situation why do you think he deserves that right?

ESPN reported that he was given a phone number by messenger and that number had two BOT members on the other end who did the deed.   

That is a CHICKEN crap way to fire this coach. 

Bring him in, get to him with police escorts either way. 

Okay let's disregard the obvious lack of common sense it would have been to fire the man in his home in front of hundreds of irrational possibly drunk students and televison cameras.  Let's ignore that since you aren't able to understand this seemingly basic concept.

Again he got fired for allowing a child predator to rape kids unreported and still hang around the school for over a decade after he knew it happened.  He let the rapist hang around this season after he knew a grand jury was investigating.  What about this says he deserves to be fired him what some people think is a dignified way?

seriously eff you.  You are one of the worst with your chicken crap attempts at PI posters who disagree with you. 

Its rough ridin' ridiculous to put that scenario together in your mind.  You bring him in and you tell him to his face.  Its not like the police were out in force being busy doing other crap, escort him in.  People knew there was a meeting for the BOT tonight, so it would have been logical to meet with him no matter what the outcome. 

He reported the incident where he was told 'something sexual in nature' happened in the locker room.  He brought it to his superior's attention.  ESPN is even now reporting that when the conversations were had, Joe had no idea what the eff was going on.  At that point you have a confused old man who doesn't know what is happening and you want him to do what?  Seriously what?  The AD dropped the ball that is why he is being charged.  The eff head GTA saw it and left campus to let the creeper continue his rape.  Who really dropped the ball at this point.  The confused old man or the AD and the GTA/his family.

Quit being so sensitive, are you that intimidated that a differing opinion rates as PI?

You have a very narrow view of this and frankly most situations.  Let's make the assumption that he did the 100% correct thing in 2002 when the GA told him what he saw.  The question that any rational person would ask is why he had access to the facility alone with little boys 4 years after he was forced into retirement for tada raping a boy in the shower.  So then we have a man who was caught raping children on campus grounds two different times yet for over a decade after he knew what happened he continued to give a rapist access to the program and PSU facilities.  Sandusky was on campus last week for Gods sake.  He didn't just eff up once 9 years ago he mumped up pretty much daily from 1998 until well today.

[nicname]

I've been pretty much stuck to this story for the last few days.  The one question that has been going through my mind all day is, "What did Paterno really know?" I can assume he did or didn't know this that and the other thing, but those assumptions are wavering.  

I'll be honest, I'd rather find out that Joe's only knowledge of any of this is the incident where the GA told him.  I'd rather that be the case, though I'm not confident that it is.

I don't know if we'll ever know.

[EMAWmeister]

[ednksu]

MIR is 100% correct, don't let these dumbsticks get you down.

really than why are Penn St papers tweeting that Tim Curley the AD who dropped the ball is still employed (in some capacity) right now.

[MadCat]

[ednksu]

I'm sorry but this stinks of the vendetta the BOT had against Joe.

I mean they called him to fire him over the phone.

My god there's been hundreds of students and scores of media camped out at his house, how in the holy hell do you think they could have fired him in person?  Also with the nature of the situation why do you think he deserves that right?

ESPN reported that he was given a phone number by messenger and that number had two BOT members on the other end who did the deed.   

That is a CHICKEN crap way to fire this coach. 

Bring him in, get to him with police escorts either way. 

Okay let's disregard the obvious lack of common sense it would have been to fire the man in his home in front of hundreds of irrational possibly drunk students and televison cameras.  Let's ignore that since you aren't able to understand this seemingly basic concept.

Again he got fired for allowing a child predator to rape kids unreported and still hang around the school for over a decade after he knew it happened.  He let the rapist hang around this season after he knew a grand jury was investigating.  What about this says he deserves to be fired him what some people think is a dignified way?

seriously eff you.  You are one of the worst with your chicken crap attempts at PI posters who disagree with you. 

Its rough ridin' ridiculous to put that scenario together in your mind.  You bring him in and you tell him to his face.  Its not like the police were out in force being busy doing other crap, escort him in.  People knew there was a meeting for the BOT tonight, so it would have been logical to meet with him no matter what the outcome. 

He reported the incident where he was told 'something sexual in nature' happened in the locker room.  He brought it to his superior's attention.  ESPN is even now reporting that when the conversations were had, Joe had no idea what the eff was going on.  At that point you have a confused old man who doesn't know what is happening and you want him to do what?  Seriously what?  The AD dropped the ball that is why he is being charged.  The eff head GTA saw it and left campus to let the creeper continue his rape.  Who really dropped the ball at this point.  The confused old man or the AD and the GTA/his family.

Quit being so sensitive, are you that intimidated that a differing opinion rates as PI?

You have a very narrow view of this and frankly most situations.  Let's make the assumption that he did the 100% correct thing in 2002 when the GA told him what he saw.  The question that any rational person would ask is why he had access to the facility alone with little boys 4 years after he was forced into retirement for tada raping a boy in the shower.  So then we have a man who was caught raping children on campus grounds two different times yet for over a decade after he knew what happened he continued to give a rapist access to the program and PSU facilities.  Sandusky was on campus last week for Gods sake.  He didn't just eff up once 9 years ago he mumped up pretty much daily from 1998 until well today.

I'm not going to settle down.  you once again tried to call me out, out of turn.  Same thing as the 16 team conference thread and a few others.  Once it became clear you had no idea what you were talking about the rest of the crowd turned on you.   Don't be a bitch and try to PI people when you can't. Bring a comment, make sense and have a discussion.


Now you are right that the rest of the ADept dropped the ball letting this rough rider on campus.  My understanding is that because he escaped by retiring or 'retiring' he still was allowed campus access.  For all we know the chicken crap AD was worried more about this whack job suing for some sort of breach of contract instead of just manning up and axing him. 

I believe Joe Pa had NO IDEA what the eff was going on. I believe he is a confused old guy who shut the entire outside world out to everything but football.  I think he will be dead in a few years once he retired, now with this on his shoulders, probably sooner.

I've seen two conflicting reports about what he was told.  One being the GTA and his daddy told him it was something sexual.  the other being something much more graphic and specific.  I believe the media lined up the timelines and went with the latter.  I think that when things were eventually explained to Joe he shut down and couldn't mentally process it.  He was roughly 70 years old at that time.  How many 70 year olds do you know could handle someone saying your good friend is a child raper? especially when a chicken crap AD is the one telling you half truths. 

[MakeItRain]

I find it really odd that Paterno was fired, but the guy that actually saw the assault still has a job.

So, if I get this right, the guy who saw the crime went to his boss (kept his job), who went to his boss (lost his job), and from there stuff gets legal.

I don't know all of the facts, so I'm not going to say what's right or wrong.  But at it's basest level, this just seems strange.

The board are the only people around that could fire Paterno.  Frankly firing an assistant coach is far below the board.  He should and will be let go by the acting head coach or AD.

Yeah, but before today, I mean.

Before today it would have been up to Paterno, and well Sandusky was working out at the complex last week, so that's how that goes.

[MadCat]

He was roughly 70 years old at that time.  How many 70 year olds do you know could handle someone saying your good friend is a child raper?

We could set up an experiment with Cosh and Snyder...?