Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse

[star seed 7]

It's irrational college kids.  Nothing more, nothing less.   Some were probably just looking to cause trouble just for the sake of causing trouble.

Just like those rascals in Ferguson

[HerrSonntag]

The athletic department is culpable for allowing arguable the most disgusting scandal in NCAA history to happen under its watch.

The way you hold an entire athletic accountable is punitive financial penalties, not a changing of the guard.

The mechanism to do that is post season bans and reductions in scholarships, short of the death penalty (which i really thought should have been brought back)

If the players are hurt by this, they had a free ticket to transfer with no penalty.
If the students are hurt by this, finish your semester and GTFO.
if the staff outside the AD are hurt by this, its a free country, go work somewhere else.

In any just world, the Penn State athletic department deserved every minute of that sanction and then some.  Lifting the ban is disgusting.  Its in insult to the victims in this tragedy and college athletics as a whole.

[SkinnyBenny]

The athletic department is culpable for allowing arguable the most disgusting scandal in NCAA history to happen under its watch.

The way you hold an entire athletic accountable is punitive financial penalties, not a changing of the guard.

The mechanism to do that is post season bans and reductions in scholarships, short of the death penalty (which i really thought should have been brought back)

If the players are hurt by this, they had a free ticket to transfer with no penalty.
If the students are hurt by this, finish your semester and GTFO.
if the staff outside the AD are hurt by this, its a free country, go work somewhere else.

In any just world, the Penn State athletic department deserved every minute of that sanction and then some.  Lifting the ban is disgusting.  Its in insult to the victims in this tragedy and college athletics as a whole.

HerrSontag actually nailed it. 

[TheHamburglar]

it's just hard reading that article and hearing Jay Paterno all red assed about vacated wins for his father that he wants to get restored.  it's sickening.

Yes.  What's being under played is how today Jay immediately started saying it's now time to right the wrong of vacated wins.  That's his concern today, worthless words on worthless paper.  He really is a huge piece of crap.  Of course, we've known this since he defended his dad by saying it wasn't his dad's fault he didn't know everything because he was such a respected old man that McQuery couldn't really explain what he saw because you couldn't speak those horrible words in Joe's presence.

[Kat Kid]

Penn State everybody.

https://vine.co/v/OzJ3awT67PB

[bshea85]

Do you ever think God just looks down on all mankind and ?

[Stevesie60]

Do you ever think God just looks down on all mankind and ?

[EllRobersonisInnocent]

Do you ever think God just looks down on all mankind and ?

Nope.

[sonofdaxjones]

It's irrational college kids.  Nothing more, nothing less.   Some were probably just looking to cause trouble just for the sake of causing trouble.

Just like those rascals in Ferguson

That's just a colossal leap, but not the least bit surprising coming from you.

Sad

[sonofdaxjones]

The athletic department is culpable for allowing arguable the most disgusting scandal in NCAA history to happen under its watch.

The way you hold an entire athletic accountable is punitive financial penalties, not a changing of the guard.

The mechanism to do that is post season bans and reductions in scholarships, short of the death penalty (which i really thought should have been brought back)

If the players are hurt by this, they had a free ticket to transfer with no penalty.
If the students are hurt by this, finish your semester and GTFO.
if the staff outside the AD are hurt by this, its a free country, go work somewhere else.

In any just world, the Penn State athletic department deserved every minute of that sanction and then some.  Lifting the ban is disgusting.  Its in insult to the victims in this tragedy and college athletics as a whole.

So is $60 million dollars in fines enough?  Because that's what the NCAA levied on Penn State.

It appears from your post that you don't even really understand the sanctions that were levied against Penn State.

[WillieWatanabe]

I'm not sure any penalty could punish those weirdos into normal fans again. It's like a cult.

[HerrSonntag]

The athletic department is culpable for allowing arguable the most disgusting scandal in NCAA history to happen under its watch.

The way you hold an entire athletic accountable is punitive financial penalties, not a changing of the guard.

The mechanism to do that is post season bans and reductions in scholarships, short of the death penalty (which i really thought should have been brought back)

If the players are hurt by this, they had a free ticket to transfer with no penalty.
If the students are hurt by this, finish your semester and GTFO.
if the staff outside the AD are hurt by this, its a free country, go work somewhere else.

In any just world, the Penn State athletic department deserved every minute of that sanction and then some.  Lifting the ban is disgusting.  Its in insult to the victims in this tragedy and college athletics as a whole.

So is $60 million dollars in fines enough?  Because that's what the NCAA levied on Penn State.

It appears from your post that you don't even really understand the sanctions that were levied against Penn State.

I understand it plenty well.  And, no, it was not.

[CNS]

I'm not sure any penalty could punish those weirdos into normal fans again. It's like a cult.

Cults, kool-aid, etc.

[Trim]

Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.

[AU_Tigers]

Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.

I suppose you would hope that your administration isn't as inherently corrupt and takes care of business when it should.

[Trim]

Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.

I suppose you would hope that your administration isn't as inherently corrupt and takes care of business when it should.

No time travel.

I'm talking more about the fan reaction if it came out now that years ago, Snyder swept something like this under an old Vanier rug.

[AU_Tigers]

Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.

I suppose you would hope that your administration isn't as inherently corrupt and takes care of business when it should.

No time travel.

I'm talking more about the fan reaction if it came out now that years ago, Snyder swept something like this under an old Vanier rug.

Gotcha. Not my place to post further on the subject. I will hang up and listen.

[AbeFroman]

I work with a Penn State grad. She even knew a guy that was abused back in the 90s who never spoke up. Yet the only thing she is upset about is Joe Pa being "treated unfairly by the media"

Why are Pennsylvanians so weird?

[Stevesie60]

Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.

I suppose you would hope that your administration isn't as inherently corrupt and takes care of business when it should.

No time travel.

I'm talking more about the fan reaction if it came out now that years ago, Snyder swept something like this under an old Vanier rug.

I don't think Snyder has the personality that college kids really grasp on to and love like Joe Pa did. The tucks would absolutely be doing the chants and stuff because they saw the turnaround after years of seeing K-State be the worst team in the NCAA, but I don't think the students and younger adults would be.

[CNS]

There would be a whole lot of minimization.  For example, the term Horseing Around would be used a lot. 

[CNS]

For me, personally, I would get super butthurt about KC not having an NBA team and how shitty the cheifs look.

[OK_Cat]

Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.

It would have been nearly identical at any school.  Here's an example to a lesser (?) degree.  Joe Mixon, a freshman stud running back at OU, punched a girl in Norman and broke her jaw.  He's out for the season, but the fanbase has been harassing the crap out of the victim and blaming her, etc.  Most fans can't separate their team from non-football issues, imo.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I would want K-State football to just go away forever, but most of our fans would be exactly like the Penn State fans.

[Daddy Claxton]

Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.

Under the Wefald/Krause/Weiser regime I think it would have been pretty much the same as Penn State, and I assume there is plenty of trash under that rug, anyway. I think it is quite possible that the only thing that prevented the same thing from happenning at Ksu is that del miller isn't a pedophile.

I have more faith in Schulz/Currie but mostly because they were not a part of (and do not crave the credit for) building Ksu football so they would be more apt to blow the whistle that would tarnish the program.

[Trim]

Post what you think would happen at KSU if this whole saga had happened here with Snyder in the Paterno role.

Under the Wefald/Krause/Weiser regime I think it would have been pretty much the same as Penn State, and I assume there is plenty of trash under that rug, anyway. I think it is quite possible that the only thing that prevented the same thing from happenning at Ksu is that del miller isn't a pedophile.

I have more faith in Schulz/Currie but mostly because they were not a part of (and do not crave the credit for) building Ksu football so they would be more apt to blow the whistle that would tarnish the program.

I think Schulz/Currie would love to look good and seize on the opportunity to avoid the whole Sean mess, but I'm not sure they'd be willing to go against the masses protesting at the Snyder statute.  They def would if they knew that cutting him would be sure to land them jobs elsewhere if necessary.