Penn St's AD Tim Curley charge with perjury: sex abuse

[sonofdaxjones]

The actions covered up to better the organization.  This wasn't the individuals getting in trouble outside of the org and it reflecting poorly on the org.  It was the org(at that time).  When an organization's president, director, and highest paid employee all take action to do what they believe is in the organizations best interest, the action belongs to the organization.

I didn't say they didn't deserve anything.   I suspect there's more to the story, and there's legal reasons why the NCAA did what they did.

[Rage Against the McKee]

[CHONGS]

SO the end result is in fact: nothing of consequence happened to Penn State's football program.  They got away with it. The program will be back to where it was (or better!) next year (if they have the proper coaching staff).

[sonofdaxjones]

It's irrational college kids.  Nothing more, nothing less.   Some were probably just looking to cause trouble just for the sake of causing trouble.

[CNS]

The actions covered up to better the organization.  This wasn't the individuals getting in trouble outside of the org and it reflecting poorly on the org.  It was the org(at that time).  When an organization's president, director, and highest paid employee all take action to do what they believe is in the organizations best interest, the action belongs to the organization.

I didn't say they didn't deserve anything.   I suspect there's more to the story, and there's legal reasons why the NCAA did what they did.

I suspect there is a lot more to the story the got buried.  For a very short time, there were grumblings that the charity involved was a kid-pedo conduit for big money donors.  That quickly went away from discussion.

As for why the NCAA does anything, I don't want to try to apply reason to their actions.

[CNS]

College kids: known supporters of kiddie rapists because they are bored and stuff.

[sonofdaxjones]

SO the end result is in fact: nothing of consequence happened to Penn State's football program.  They got away with it. The program will be back to where it was (or better!) next year (if they have the proper coaching staff).

Yeah, on their 2nd coach in a post Paterno environment, no post season.

In a social media world people clearly feel the need to prove just how outraged they are again and again, just so everybody knows just how outraged they are.

[CNS]

SO the end result is in fact: nothing of consequence happened to Penn State's football program.  They got away with it. The program will be back to where it was (or better!) next year (if they have the proper coaching staff).

Yeah, on their 2nd coach in a post Paterno environment, no post season.

In a social media world people clearly feel the need to prove just how outraged they are again and again, just so everybody knows just how outraged they are.

This is actually an outrage-justified thing, Dax.

[sonofdaxjones]

College kids: known supporters of kiddie rapists because they are bored and stuff.

I've seen riots in Manhattan, it was like 30 people rioting and 5,000 people watching them riot.

[sonofdaxjones]

SO the end result is in fact: nothing of consequence happened to Penn State's football program.  They got away with it. The program will be back to where it was (or better!) next year (if they have the proper coaching staff).

Yeah, on their 2nd coach in a post Paterno environment, no post season.

In a social media world people clearly feel the need to prove just how outraged they are again and again, just so everybody knows just how outraged they are.

This is actually an outrage-justified thing, Dax.

Okay, if you say so.

[meow meow]

so one of the biggest scandals in NCAA history, involving incident children, isn't something to be outraged about?  ok dax.

[doompaul]

http://www.thepeopleshistory.net/2014/03/the-finders-cult.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Savile_sexual_abuse_scandal

Also, pedowood, Penn State, NSA, etc. Basically, the world is run, in-part, by pedophiles. The reason is that they are the easiest to blackmail and thus the easiest to control. Much of what the NSA does is blackmail pedophiles in high ranking State positions of power. This is true in UK and Canada as well (any country with a NWO ruling class).

What happened at Penn State is similar to what happened in Nebraska in the 80s. The ring got caught and a lot of dead bodies were required to put the lid back on things. Did you guys think that that the pedos would be captured and everything would be alright if things were left up to our corrupt justice system? Lol. The ride doesn't end until the system collapses.

[sonofdaxjones]

so one of the biggest scandals in NCAA history, involving incident children, isn't something to be outraged about?  ok dax.

Who wasn't outraged?   But in terms of NCAA scandals and history, this was on the absolute fringes of NCAA purview, only covered by some all encompassing, nebulous words in a far off corner of the NCAA by-laws.

 

[TownieCat]

The NCAA's initial ruling was way too harsh because, as dax pointed out, the people involved in the scandal are no longer at Penn St for one reason or another. Those in the program now have nothing to do with what happened.

[michigancat]

They should have gotten whatever death penalty SMU got. It wasn't just individuals that let it happen, it was the culture. And that culture deserved to be killed.

[CHONGS]

SO the end result is in fact: nothing of consequence happened to Penn State's football program.  They got away with it. The program will be back to where it was (or better!) next year (if they have the proper coaching staff).

Yeah, on their 2nd coach in a post Paterno environment, no post season.

In a social media world people clearly feel the need to prove just how outraged they are again and again, just so everybody knows just how outraged they are.

#poorPSU they had to replace a coach who was offered an NFL job, and was able to replace him with an (arguably) top tier candidate.

[meow meow]

so wait, every single person that had a hand in this isn't at Penn State anymore?  lol

[sonofdaxjones]

so wait, every single person that had a hand in this isn't at Penn State anymore?  lol

So who is still there?

[CNS]

It doesn't matter who is there still or not.  Individuals represent their organization.  Especially when more than one get caught and when what they are doing is for the organization.

[CHONGS]

They should have gotten whatever death penalty SMU got. It wasn't just individuals that let it happen, it was the culture.

Yes. 

[sonofdaxjones]

The actual law of the land provide a whole litany of options. 

The NCAA overstepped the mark and they clearly now realize that.

[michigancat]

The actual law of the land provide a whole litany of options. 

The NCAA overstepped the mark and they clearly now realize that.

If the NCAA overstepped the reach of their rules to punish a program that thought it was a good idea to cover up child rape, I think that's an appropriate step. Why have any rules at all if you can't punish an institution for covering up child rape?

[sonofdaxjones]

The actual law of the land provide a whole litany of options. 

The NCAA overstepped the mark and they clearly now realize that.

If the NCAA overstepped the reach of their rules to punish a program that thought it was a good idea to cover up child rape, I think that's an appropriate step. Why have any rules at all if you can't punish an institution for covering up child rape?

That's a perfect take if you think Penn State wasn't punished at all by the NCAA.   But the simple fact remains, the issue at Penn State sets at very best in the farthest regions of actual NCAA oversight. 

[CNS]

I don't think so.  Penn State is a member institution.  Most organizations would kick a member out if they were suddenly known as kiddie rape central. 

[CHONGS]

it's the type of "punishments" Bill Self would be proud of