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Re: Beasley ----
« Reply #125 on: October 27, 2011, 06:46:25 PM »
What started all this?  What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about.  Someone pls summarize.

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Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer).  Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap.  I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for.  

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html

^actually a pretty interesting read.

Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.

Beasley didn't know about the money that got paid to Fatima until September 2008 and K-State was supposed to know about it?

which is why there is nothing to be worried about.


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« Reply #126 on: October 27, 2011, 06:47:33 PM »
  :love: Frank can never leave us now  :love:

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Re: Beasley ----
« Reply #127 on: October 27, 2011, 06:54:10 PM »
I'm sorry Mike. I said some pretty awful things about you in my head.  :dunno: I take it back and go get yourself a Nike contract. You deserve it cause you rule! :GivingLoveTapWithFistOnYourChin:

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« Reply #128 on: October 27, 2011, 07:21:13 PM »
http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html

^actually a pretty interesting read.

Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.


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53. In or around September 2008, Beasley learned, through a third party, that Malone and Bell had been making payments to his mother without his knowledge or consent for years.  He felt betrayed by the men in whom he had placed his trust and immediately terminated the Agent Contract and the Merchandising Agreement with Bell and dramatically shifted his relationship with Malone at the same time.

betrayal is a bitter pill to swallow.  explains a lot about the falling out between DCA and Hill

I'm assuming the Cam Newton thing will apply here.  Thanks, Cam.  Turns out you may have helped EMAW afterall.

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Re: Beasley ----
« Reply #129 on: October 27, 2011, 07:23:12 PM »
 :love: Frank can never leave us now  :love:

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« Reply #130 on: October 27, 2011, 07:28:25 PM »
This is great . . . really like what this means for K-State basketball.


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« Reply #131 on: October 27, 2011, 08:46:12 PM »
yes.  if it was reasonable that ksu should have known.  which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel". 

there is nothing ncaa-wrong with an aau club paying for the tourney related travel of a player's parents.  i don't think there is even any issue with an agent donating to the aau club and the club using that money for bball opps that involve the player.  the amateur issue only enters with the direct involvement of the agent and a player.

you are right on the "living normal" stuff.
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« Reply #132 on: October 27, 2011, 10:37:04 PM »
nolan smith signed with bell, in case anyone else was wondering.
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« Reply #133 on: October 27, 2011, 10:40:18 PM »

How many womens basketball scholly's should we voluntarily give up to avoid ncaa sanctions?  I think 2, plus 1 womens tennis ought to cover it.
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Re: Beasley ----
« Reply #134 on: October 27, 2011, 11:12:43 PM »
This is scorched earth tactics by Beasley.  He is destroying these guys.

Which means if Malone or Bell have anything on Dalonte or K-State they will air it all out.  Don't think this is over.

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« Reply #135 on: October 27, 2011, 11:24:04 PM »
if Malone or Bell have anything on Dalonte or K-State they will air it all out.  Don't think this is over.

no way.
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Re: Beasley ----
« Reply #136 on: October 27, 2011, 11:45:45 PM »
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Part of Delonte Hill's huge salary is the money he uses to pay off sleazeballs to get players. Since it comes out of his personal account, it's off limits to NCAA. Huggins and Frank Martin are both guilty as sin when it comes to paying players. This is how it works now, kids.


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Re: Beasley ----
« Reply #137 on: October 27, 2011, 11:51:55 PM »
nolan smith signed with bell, in case anyone else was wondering.


did he get a nike contract?
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Re: Beasley ----
« Reply #138 on: October 27, 2011, 11:57:09 PM »
meh

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Re: Beasley ----
« Reply #139 on: October 28, 2011, 12:37:22 AM »
meh

My thoughts exactly. Honestly, wgaf.

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« Reply #140 on: October 28, 2011, 03:10:29 AM »
meh

My thoughts exactly. Honestly, wgaf.

bball fans gaf.  get out of here, combo trash.
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« Reply #141 on: October 28, 2011, 06:08:16 AM »
meh

My thoughts exactly. Honestly, wgaf.

bball fans gaf.  get out of here, combo trash.

sys.  It is OK.  EMAW bball is YOUR precious, and they aren't going to take it.

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Re: Beasley ----
« Reply #142 on: October 29, 2011, 12:14:10 PM »
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Holloway acknowledges being that person. He said he provided financial assistance to Smith — at her request — that included paying her rent in Manhattan, Kan., during the 2007-08 academic year. He said he also purchased, at Beasley’s request, the sport-utility vehicle that Beasley drove while at Kansas State.

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Contrary to Beasley’s suits, Holloway said Beasley was aware of the benefits being provided to Smith.

“Beasley knew everything,” Holloway said. “His mother knew everything.”

welp.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/dc-based-cpa-claims-responsibility-for-benefits-micahel-beasley-received/2011/10/28/gIQAfLnYQM_story.html

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Re: Beasley ----
« Reply #143 on: October 29, 2011, 12:30:34 PM »
Shouldn't change much about KSU's position IMO.  They'll argue that they couldn't have reasonably known about that.  Holloway doesn't have any KSU connections.  Beasely(despite what some would like to think) wasn't driving around in some 50k vehicle.  It'll still come down to whether the NCAA thinks of KSU as one of the little guys and hammers them or one of the big guys and tells them to not do it again.

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« Reply #144 on: October 31, 2011, 02:56:09 PM »
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Holloway acknowledges being that person. He said he provided financial assistance to Smith — at her request — that included paying her rent in Manhattan, Kan., during the 2007-08 academic year. He said he also purchased, at Beasley’s request, the sport-utility vehicle that Beasley drove while at Kansas State.

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Contrary to Beasley’s suits, Holloway said Beasley was aware of the benefits being provided to Smith.

“Beasley knew everything,” Holloway said. “His mother knew everything.”

welp.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/dc-based-cpa-claims-responsibility-for-benefits-micahel-beasley-received/2011/10/28/gIQAfLnYQM_story.html



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« Reply #145 on: November 10, 2011, 10:38:17 AM »
Finally read through the full pleadings.  Found this interesting.

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61.  In addition, Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant the outstanding balance that Counter-Defendant claimed was due him.  Specifically, Bell demanded that Beasley reimburse Counter-Defendant for thousands of dollars that had been laid out before Beasley had ever signed a player-agent agreement.  Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant in full.

So, according to Mike, all of the "extra benefits" have been paid back some time ago.

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« Reply #146 on: November 10, 2011, 10:41:27 AM »
Finally read through the full pleadings.  Found this interesting.

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61.  In addition, Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant the outstanding balance that Counter-Defendant claimed was due him.  Specifically, Bell demanded that Beasley reimburse Counter-Defendant for thousands of dollars that had been laid out before Beasley had ever signed a player-agent agreement.  Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant in full.

So, according to Mike, all of the "extra benefits" have been paid back some time ago.

would this not be viewed an admission that he received the goods in the NCAA's eyes?  Who cares legally, but NCAA-wise could be bad for us?

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« Reply #147 on: November 10, 2011, 10:43:41 AM »
Finally read through the full pleadings.  Found this interesting.

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61.  In addition, Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant the outstanding balance that Counter-Defendant claimed was due him.  Specifically, Bell demanded that Beasley reimburse Counter-Defendant for thousands of dollars that had been laid out before Beasley had ever signed a player-agent agreement.  Beasley promptly paid Counter-Defendant in full.

So, according to Mike, all of the "extra benefits" have been paid back some time ago.

would this not be viewed an admission that he received the goods in the NCAA's eyes?  Who cares legally, but NCAA-wise could be bad for us?

That paragraph comes after the ones about Mike not knowing anything about any of it until after he was gone from KSU.  When he found out, he fired Bell.  Bell was all "I've paid out $_______ over the years, you owe me".  Mike cut the check.

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Re: Beasley ----
« Reply #148 on: November 10, 2011, 11:45:17 AM »
Seriously seems like Mike has us in mind. :ksu:

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« Reply #149 on: November 10, 2011, 11:48:29 AM »