Beasley ----

[steve dave]

What started all this?  What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about.  Someone pls summarize.

TIA

Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer).  Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap.  I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for. 

[doom]

What started all this?  What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about.  Someone pls summarize.

TIA

Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer).  Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap. I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for. 

basically saying he exploited a child and is using the negative press to curb bell's suit and force a settlement, seems to me.

[OregonSmock]

usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.  

they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known.  Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu.  The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.

Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?

yes.  if it was reasonable that ksu should have known.  which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel". 

I'm confused. If KU can directly pay Chalmers' dad and Manning's dad, then why is K-State supposed to investigate every dollar that its players' parents may get from sources completely unrelated to the university?

There was no NCAA rule against Chalmers/Manning coaching for KU.  There's an NCAA rule against parents collecting money from boosters.

Who is the booster in this situation?

The NCAA also prohibits agents from paying players and their parents (while in school).

[kstater]

usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment. 

they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known.  Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu.  The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.

Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?

yes.  if it was reasonable that ksu should have known.  which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel". 

I'm confused. If KU can directly pay Chalmers' dad and Manning's dad, then why is K-State supposed to investigate every dollar that its players' parents may get from sources completely unrelated to the university?

There was no NCAA rule against Chalmers/Manning coaching for KU.  There's an NCAA rule against parents collecting money from boosters.

Who is the booster in this situation?

The NCAA also prohibits agents from paying players and their parents (while in school).

So we just have to show the payment was before he enrolled?  That should be easy enough.  I doubt she moved to Manhattan after he enrolled.

[Rage Against the McKee]

usc got in trouble for illegal recruitment.  

they got in trouble for not knowing when they should have known.  Which is essentially what the ncaa will say to ksu.  The ncaa has realized that the only way that it has any leverage at all with schools is through penalty and they've chosen to use this.

Is K-State really responsible for money changing hands between someone who isn't associated with the university and a family member?

yes.  if it was reasonable that ksu should have known.  which is why you hear 'te saying "hey, Fatima was living normal" and "I don't remember her being at aau tourneys when mike had to travel". 

I'm confused. If KU can directly pay Chalmers' dad and Manning's dad, then why is K-State supposed to investigate every dollar that its players' parents may get from sources completely unrelated to the university?

There was no NCAA rule against Chalmers/Manning coaching for KU.  There's an NCAA rule against parents collecting money from boosters.

Who is the booster in this situation?

The NCAA also prohibits agents from paying players and their parents (while in school).

Yeah. I'm sure K-State will have to forfeit wins. Unless it can be proven that K-State should have known about the payments, I don't think anything more will come of this.

[steve dave]

DK dunking on Mayo will be erased from both team's record books  

[steve dave]

DK dunking on Mayo will be erased from both team's record books  

IT WILL LIVE ON IN MY HEART!  THEY CAN'T TAKE THAT!

[michigancat]

What started all this?  What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about.  Someone pls summarize.

TIA

Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer).  Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap.  I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for.  

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html

^actually a pretty interesting read.

Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.

[chum1]

this is all just so shocking

[steve dave]

Sounds good to me!  GO GET'EM MIKE!  

[steve dave]

this is all just so shocking

haha

[CNS]

What started all this?  What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about.  Someone pls summarize.

TIA

Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer).  Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap.  I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for.  

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html

^actually a pretty interesting read.

Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.

Knew the bell/DCA stuff, but didn't realize that there was actually a law suit from it.

[thebigcatbowski]

What started all this?  What is the orig suit and Mike's counter all about.  Someone pls summarize.

TIA

Mike fired Bell almost immediately (which led to the DC Assault pipeline being ruptured spilling it's oil into the ogalala aquifer).  Bell sued Mike for whatever contract breach or some stupid crap.  I really have no idea what Mike is counter suing Bell for.  

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html

^actually a pretty interesting read.

Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.

Beasley didn't know about the money that got paid to Fatima until September 2008 and K-State was supposed to know about it?

[mcmwcat]

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html

^actually a pretty interesting read.

Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.

From the time he was thirteen (13) years old, Beasley was envisioned as a strong NBA prospect … he was over 6 feet tall and had a level of skill and intensity on the court that adumbrated success at every level of basketball.

so intense

[mcmwcat]

… but one thing became clear: he was a prodigious basketball talent.  By the time he was ready to go to college, he was one of the best teenage basketball players in America

yes.  yes he was.

[bakerman]

Andy Katz misleading people? Odd tweet.

Michael Beasley alleges improper benefits at Kansas State Wildcats in lawsuit against ex-agent http://es.pn/s7CStd

[mcmwcat]

http://www.documentcloud.org/documents/259645-bell-beasley-counter-claim.html

^actually a pretty interesting read.

Beasley wanted a Nike contract. Bell basically did nothing to get him any contract. Then Beasley found out about all the Bell giving his mom money crap. He fired Bell. Bell and Malone said Beasley owed Bell a shitload of money, some of which were for expenses incurred before Beasley signed with Bell. Mike just payed it for some reason, and I think he's suing him for that and for being a shitty agent for his merchandising contract.

53. In or around September 2008, Beasley learned, through a third party, that Malone and Bell had been making payments to his mother without his knowledge or consent for years.  He felt betrayed by the men in whom he had placed his trust and immediately terminated the Agent Contract and the Merchandising Agreement with Bell and dramatically shifted his relationship with Malone at the same time.

betrayal is a bitter pill to swallow.  explains a lot about the falling out between DCA and Hill

[mcmwcat]

and could have lead to his crushing depression during his first couple years in the league.

[WillieWatanabe]

seems like they tried to cover KSU's asses as much as possible. Pretty nasty stuff going on here im sure.

[FP TC etc.]

Beasley wanted a Nike contract.

Good. Adidas is awful.

[mcmwcat]

sticking to my Mike-would-never-hurt-KSU theory.  no worries here.

theory confirmed.  love you Mike.

[jmlynch1]

sticking to my Mike-would-never-hurt-KSU theory.  no worries here.

theory confirmed.  love you Mike.

There is no doubt he waited on the Cam Newton results so he didn't hurt EMAW.

[steve dave]

sticking to my Mike-would-never-hurt-KSU theory.  no worries here.

theory confirmed.  love you Mike.

There he is not doubt he waited on the Cam Newton results so he didn't hurt EMAW.

We are so rough ridin' blessed

[fatty fat fat]

i take it all back

[steve dave]

i take it all back

I knew you didn't mean it.  I knew.