I can't believe we haven't sold out the Bill already..

[KITNfury]

I bought 12 last night. 

BTW - have some for sale.

[W.Churchill]

The argument that we can expand is that we sell out against crap teams, when tickets are like $10.  If we can expand, we absolutely should.  I just don't think we can,

if we expanded, then charged like $25-$30 a ticket for confy games, we could probably sell out a 55-57K stadium. i don't know if 60k is feasible right now, even with cheap tickets. But, if the admin thinks that it will be likely in the future, i think we should go for it now.

Lowering the ticket prices to "fund" an expansion goes against the conventional wisdom [and, the laws of economics].  Sort of like the MBA genius who had the brilliant marketing strategy of building a Mercedes and selling it for $12,000.  BRILLIANT!

[KITNfury]

The argument that we can expand is that we sell out against crap teams, when tickets are like $10.  If we can expand, we absolutely should.  I just don't think we can,

if we expanded, then charged like $25-$30 a ticket for confy games, we could probably sell out a 55-57K stadium. i don't know if 60k is feasible right now, even with cheap tickets. But, if the admin thinks that it will be likely in the future, i think we should go for it now.

Lowering the ticket prices to "fund" an expansion goes against the conventional wisdom [and, the laws of economics].  Sort of like the MBA genius who had the brilliant marketing strategy of building a Mercedes and selling it for $12,000.  BRILLIANT!

For the record, I do agree with you, but you can look at it from a different perspective. Like sell a butt ton of season tickets for $100, pack a 60-65k stadium (if possible), over time this would build more die-hards, increase recruiting prowess, get better teams, have increased hostile environment, get more wins, raise ticket prices.

I won't say the other angle is valid, it would be a huge gamble, but not necessarily wrong.

[ArchE_Cat]

The argument that we can expand is that we sell out against crap teams, when tickets are like $10.  If we can expand, we absolutely should.  I just don't think we can,

if we expanded, then charged like $25-$30 a ticket for confy games, we could probably sell out a 55-57K stadium. i don't know if 60k is feasible right now, even with cheap tickets. But, if the admin thinks that it will be likely in the future, i think we should go for it now.

Lowering the ticket prices to "fund" an expansion goes against the conventional wisdom [and, the laws of economics].  Sort of like the MBA genius who had the brilliant marketing strategy of building a Mercedes and selling it for $12,000.  BRILLIANT!

Ticket sales aren't funding the bball practice facility we're building. There's a tipping point where it becomes feasible to fund a portion of expansion based on future ticket sales from seats created by the expansion, but only if your fundraising is sufficient on the front end. You also have to consider future revenue from suites and club level into this. Those are high dollar, high revenue seats and can, if you will, "Subsidize" lower priced seating areas while still generating revenue.

[felix rex]

Snyder supporters are so smug now. I guess you've earned it.

After beasley/walker/pullen beat KU to hit 5-0 or whatever back in 07, I remember starting a thread about "our status as a national title contender". I knew it was hopeless, but I also figured I may not get a chance to start that kind of thread again anytime soon. So I rode it while I could.

oh man, this is such a great post. it's too bad it's buried in this weird thread.

Thanks, mocat. Rickdaris has had a pretty clear agenda of burying my posts from day one.

[KCFDcat]

The argument that we can expand is that we sell out against crap teams, when tickets are like $10.  If we can expand, we absolutely should.  I just don't think we can,

if we expanded, then charged like $25-$30 a ticket for confy games, we could probably sell out a 55-57K stadium. i don't know if 60k is feasible right now, even with cheap tickets. But, if the admin thinks that it will be likely in the future, i think we should go for it now.

Lowering the ticket prices to "fund" an expansion goes against the conventional wisdom [and, the laws of economics].  Sort of like the MBA genius who had the brilliant marketing strategy of building a Mercedes and selling it for $12,000.  BRILLIANT!

For the record, I do agree with you, but you can look at it from a different perspective. Like sell a butt ton of season tickets for $100, pack a 60-65k stadium (if possible), over time this would build more die-hards, increase recruiting prowess, get better teams, have increased hostile environment, get more wins, raise ticket prices.

I won't say the other angle is valid, it would be a huge gamble, but not necessarily wrong.

right, I agree its not a good idea to expand on the hope we could sell out with cheaper tickets. although I do wish we had a 3 tier pricing system. with the most expensive tickets being lower bowl, middle price upper deck center, and lowest price being upper deck corners. with the hope being the cheapest tickets are never over $20

[PowercatPat]

I bought 12 last night. 

BTW - have some for sale.

How much and where are they?

[Kat Kid]

The argument that we can expand is that we sell out against crap teams, when tickets are like $10.  If we can expand, we absolutely should.  I just don't think we can,

if we expanded, then charged like $25-$30 a ticket for confy games, we could probably sell out a 55-57K stadium. i don't know if 60k is feasible right now, even with cheap tickets. But, if the admin thinks that it will be likely in the future, i think we should go for it now.

Lowering the ticket prices to "fund" an expansion goes against the conventional wisdom [and, the laws of economics].  Sort of like the MBA genius who had the brilliant marketing strategy of building a Mercedes and selling it for $12,000.  BRILLIANT!

Tiered pricing.  Stop acting like a dick.

[ednksu]

The argument that we can expand is that we sell out against crap teams, when tickets are like $10.  If we can expand, we absolutely should.  I just don't think we can,

if we expanded, then charged like $25-$30 a ticket for confy games, we could probably sell out a 55-57K stadium. i don't know if 60k is feasible right now, even with cheap tickets. But, if the admin thinks that it will be likely in the future, i think we should go for it now.

Lowering the ticket prices to "fund" an expansion goes against the conventional wisdom [and, the laws of economics].  Sort of like the MBA genius who had the brilliant marketing strategy of building a Mercedes and selling it for $12,000.  BRILLIANT!

Ticket sales aren't funding the bball practice facility we're building. There's a tipping point where it becomes feasible to fund a portion of expansion based on future ticket sales from seats created by the expansion, but only if your fundraising is sufficient on the front end. You also have to consider future revenue from suites and club level into this. Those are high dollar, high revenue seats and can, if you will, "Subsidize" lower priced seating areas while still generating revenue.

but what if those lower seats are lazy boys?

[KCFDcat]

any update on this? really want the bill to be  on saturday.

[bigDcat]

Will not be a sell out. Just like last week. Also, who really gives a eff if it is or isn't.

[KCFDcat]

Will not be a sell out. Just like last week. Also, who really gives a eff if it is or isn't.

I would be surprised if it's not sold out, or really close to it.

also, I care.

[steve dave]

Will not be a sell out. Just like last week. Also, who really gives a eff if it is or isn't.

the people who debate needing to add seats care

[hemmy]

Im pretty sure we had 49500 against Baylor. Thats 500 off of capacity and we're screwing ourselves with that high deck above the student section. no one wants to sit there

Cause its windy as eff up there.

[KCFDcat]

if we can't sellout a game when we're ranked 20th, against a fairly local team, the AD needs to look at ticket pricing.

[wetwillie]

Will not be a sell out. Just like last week. Also, who really gives a eff if it is or isn't.

the people who debate needing to add seats care

if we can't sellout a game when we're ranked 20th, against a fairly local team, the AD needs to look at removing seats and adding premium suites.

[goldenticket]

any update, will it sellout? or just be close like the baylor game?

[Pete]

Those crap seats in the upper corners of the top deck should be like $5 every game. 

[KCFDcat]

Those crap seats in the upper corners of the top deck should be like $5 every game. 

this.

[Pete]

Surely we can get someone like Dara's Fast Lane to sponsor the cheap seats, like the Hyvee seats at the Royals games.

Maybe the "Tractor Supply Company Value Seats," or the "Fontanelle Hybrid Top Crop Score Seats" or something? 

[gokatgo]

Are the upper deck corner seats really that bad?

Seems like they'd be way better than NEZ or lower SEZ

[steve dave]

Are the upper deck corner seats really that bad?

Seems like they'd be way better than NEZ or lower SEZ

they are awful

[Dr Rick Daris]

Are the upper deck corner seats really that bad?

Seems like they'd be way better than NEZ or lower SEZ

they are awful

yeah. they are terrible. i wouldn't have bothered even building the bathrooms honestly. use that money for something else and then just make that entire section like twenty bucks a ticket or something and call it good. horrible seats.

[Trim]

There's almost nowhere inside BSFS that I like watching a game from.  Mainly b/c of the people.

[Pete]

There's almost nowhere inside BSFS that I like watching a game from.  Mainly b/c of the people.

We need a box.

Next year, I say we use the BBBS donation money to get a box.