Herman Cain wins Florida straw poll...

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I like Herman Cain and hope he wins.  According to the latest worthless poll, people hate Obama so much, it really doesn't matter who the repubs put in against him. 

Yeah, he's my guy, too.  But, with all republicans being racists, does he really have a chance? And if he's elected, do the democrats become the racists for disagreeing with him?   confusing.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

My Wall Street Journal says Herman Cain is now leading the field.

Yay! Herman

[chunkles]

http://www.thedailybeast.com/videos/2011/10/17/herman-cain-sings-an-ode-to-pizza.html

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

I love that guy.

[Rage Against the McKee]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

[Rage Against the McKee]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

Only the very wealthiest of Americans will pay less taxes under 9-9-9. I don't like the idea of a federal sales tax and a federal income tax. We should have one or the other, not both. I also hate the idea of giving deductions for charitable donations, but nothing else.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Oh, you're going to college? Sorry, no deductions for books and tuition. No deductions for student loan interest, either. Helping people who help themselves is God's job, not the government's.

No deductions on interest paid on home loans. That free ride is over. (I kind of support this one, fwiw)

Oh, you had a kid? Tough crap, no deductions.

Pay your tithes on Sunday? Well, write that crap off, why are you even asking? The church needs the money.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

Only the very wealthiest of Americans will pay less taxes under 9-9-9. I don't like the idea of a federal sales tax and a federal income tax. We should have one or the other, not both.

Phase 2 eliminates income tax.

I also hate the idea of giving deductions for charitable donations, but nothing else.

Why?  We need more voluntary giving and less mandatory handouts.

[Rage Against the McKee]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

Only the very wealthiest of Americans will pay less taxes under 9-9-9. I don't like the idea of a federal sales tax and a federal income tax. We should have one or the other, not both.

Phase 2 eliminates income tax.

I also hate the idea of giving deductions for charitable donations, but nothing else.

Why?  We need more voluntary giving and less mandatory handouts.

I have no problem with voluntary giving, just government subsidized voluntary giving.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

Only the very wealthiest of Americans will pay less taxes under 9-9-9. I don't like the idea of a federal sales tax and a federal income tax. We should have one or the other, not both.

Phase 2 eliminates income tax.

I also hate the idea of giving deductions for charitable donations, but nothing else.

Why?  We need more voluntary giving and less mandatory handouts.

I have no problem with voluntary giving, just government subsidized voluntary giving.

What is welfare and the other thousands of entitlements?

[Rage Against the McKee]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

Only the very wealthiest of Americans will pay less taxes under 9-9-9. I don't like the idea of a federal sales tax and a federal income tax. We should have one or the other, not both.

Phase 2 eliminates income tax.

I also hate the idea of giving deductions for charitable donations, but nothing else.

Why?  We need more voluntary giving and less mandatory handouts.

I have no problem with voluntary giving, just government subsidized voluntary giving.

What is welfare and the other thousands of entitlements?

Where did I say that I support welfare?

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

Only the very wealthiest of Americans will pay less taxes under 9-9-9. I don't like the idea of a federal sales tax and a federal income tax. We should have one or the other, not both.

Phase 2 eliminates income tax.

I also hate the idea of giving deductions for charitable donations, but nothing else.

Why?  We need more voluntary giving and less mandatory handouts.

I have no problem with voluntary giving, just government subsidized voluntary giving.

What is welfare and the other thousands of entitlements?

Where did I say that I support welfare?

So you are in favor of cutting off welfare. OK

What other tax payer supported entitlements are you in favor of eliminating?

[Rage Against the McKee]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

Only the very wealthiest of Americans will pay less taxes under 9-9-9. I don't like the idea of a federal sales tax and a federal income tax. We should have one or the other, not both.

Phase 2 eliminates income tax.

I also hate the idea of giving deductions for charitable donations, but nothing else.

Why?  We need more voluntary giving and less mandatory handouts.

I have no problem with voluntary giving, just government subsidized voluntary giving.

What is welfare and the other thousands of entitlements?

Where did I say that I support welfare?

So you are in favor of cutting off welfare. OK

What other tax payer supported entitlements are you in favor of eliminating?

About 40% of the military.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

Only the very wealthiest of Americans will pay less taxes under 9-9-9. I don't like the idea of a federal sales tax and a federal income tax. We should have one or the other, not both.

Phase 2 eliminates income tax.

I also hate the idea of giving deductions for charitable donations, but nothing else.

Why?  We need more voluntary giving and less mandatory handouts.

I have no problem with voluntary giving, just government subsidized voluntary giving.

What is welfare and the other thousands of entitlements?

Where did I say that I support welfare?

So you are in favor of cutting off welfare. OK

What other tax payer supported entitlements are you in favor of eliminating?

About 40% of the military.

 

One of the few services the government is required to offer. Granted, there is a lot of waste in military spending, but that seems to go hand in hand with anything in which the government is involved.

[Rage Against the McKee]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

Only the very wealthiest of Americans will pay less taxes under 9-9-9. I don't like the idea of a federal sales tax and a federal income tax. We should have one or the other, not both.

Phase 2 eliminates income tax.

I also hate the idea of giving deductions for charitable donations, but nothing else.

Why?  We need more voluntary giving and less mandatory handouts.

I have no problem with voluntary giving, just government subsidized voluntary giving.

What is welfare and the other thousands of entitlements?

Where did I say that I support welfare?

So you are in favor of cutting off welfare. OK

What other tax payer supported entitlements are you in favor of eliminating?

About 40% of the military.

 

One of the few services the government is required to offer. Granted, there is a lot of waste in military spending, but that seems to go hand in hand with anything in which the government is involved.

They aren't required to offer their service to the rest of the world.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

Only the very wealthiest of Americans will pay less taxes under 9-9-9. I don't like the idea of a federal sales tax and a federal income tax. We should have one or the other, not both.

Phase 2 eliminates income tax.

I also hate the idea of giving deductions for charitable donations, but nothing else.

Why?  We need more voluntary giving and less mandatory handouts.

I have no problem with voluntary giving, just government subsidized voluntary giving.

What is welfare and the other thousands of entitlements?

Where did I say that I support welfare?

So you are in favor of cutting off welfare. OK

What other tax payer supported entitlements are you in favor of eliminating?

About 40% of the military.

 

One of the few services the government is required to offer. Granted, there is a lot of waste in military spending, but that seems to go hand in hand with anything in which the government is involved.

They aren't required to offer their service to the rest of the world.

Agreed. I would put that in the "wasteful spending" category. The recent revelations that we are sticking our nose in an African civil war or two is a good example. There is absolutely nothing to gain.

There are instances, however, in which it is prudent to kick the crap out of somebody before they become a problem here on our soil. We also have American interests overseas to protect.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Oh, you're going to college? Sorry, no deductions for books and tuition. No deductions for student loan interest, either. Helping people who help themselves is God's job, not the government's.

No deductions on interest paid on home loans. That free ride is over. (I kind of support this one, fwiw)

Oh, you had a kid? Tough crap, no deductions.

Pay your tithes on Sunday? Well, write that crap off, why are you even asking? The church needs the money.

The government has socially engineered the cost of tuition and homes through roof.  You just fail to realize it because your worried about getting a $400 tax return

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

He's proposing a huge tax increase. . .

not for me.

Only the very wealthiest of Americans will pay less taxes under 9-9-9. I don't like the idea of a federal sales tax and a federal income tax. We should have one or the other, not both.

Phase 2 eliminates income tax.

I also hate the idea of giving deductions for charitable donations, but nothing else.

Why?  We need more voluntary giving and less mandatory handouts.

I have no problem with voluntary giving, just government subsidized voluntary giving.

What is welfare and the other thousands of entitlements?

Where did I say that I support welfare?

So you are in favor of cutting off welfare. OK

What other tax payer supported entitlements are you in favor of eliminating?

About 40% of the military.

 

One of the few services the government is required to offer. Granted, there is a lot of waste in military spending, but that seems to go hand in hand with anything in which the government is involved.

They aren't required to offer their service to the rest of the world.

Agreed. I would put that in the "wasteful spending" category. The recent revelations that we are sticking our nose in an African civil war or two is a good example. There is absolutely nothing to gain.

There are instances, however, in which it is prudent to kick the crap out of somebody before they become a problem here on our soil. We also have American interests overseas to protect.

The CIA fights wars now, not the Military.  It circumvents the whole "congressional oversight" part.  Thanks B.O.!

[Rage Against the McKee]

Cain does deserve credit for being the only candidate who is serious about the budget. I just think it's somewhat laughable that he is trying to say his tax plan is a tax cut, when in reality, 84% of Americans will pay more.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Cain does deserve credit for being the only candidate who is serious about the budget. I just think it's somewhat laughable that he is trying to say his tax plan is a tax cut, when in reality, 84% of Americans will pay more.

Liberals should be happy with that figure.

[pike]

Cain does deserve credit for being the only candidate who is serious about the budget. I just think it's somewhat laughable that he is trying to say his tax plan is a tax cut, when in reality, 84% of Americans will pay more.

Paul proposed cutting 1 trillion in spending 

[Rage Against the McKee]

Cain does deserve credit for being the only candidate who is serious about the budget. I just think it's somewhat laughable that he is trying to say his tax plan is a tax cut, when in reality, 84% of Americans will pay more.

Paul proposed cutting 1 trillion in spending 

Yes, but he also proposed zero taxes of any kind. I'm just not sure how he plans on funding the rest of the federal budget without any tax revenue.

[pike]

Cain does deserve credit for being the only candidate who is serious about the budget. I just think it's somewhat laughable that he is trying to say his tax plan is a tax cut, when in reality, 84% of Americans will pay more.

Paul proposed cutting 1 trillion in spending 

Yes, but he also proposed zero taxes of any kind. I'm just not sure how he plans on funding the rest of the federal budget without any tax revenue.

You don't need additional taxes if you cut 1 trillion

[Rage Against the McKee]

Cain does deserve credit for being the only candidate who is serious about the budget. I just think it's somewhat laughable that he is trying to say his tax plan is a tax cut, when in reality, 84% of Americans will pay more.

Paul proposed cutting 1 trillion in spending 

Yes, but he also proposed zero taxes of any kind. I'm just not sure how he plans on funding the rest of the federal budget without any tax revenue.

You don't need additional taxes if you cut 1 trillion

He didn't say he wants no additional taxes. He said he wants no taxes at all. Nobody would pay anything.