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How does it paint KU in a bad way. Giddens put himself in a bad position with his on-court play and in a situation that led to him being stabbed and KU cut ties with someone who at the could've dragged the program down with him. KU did what they needed to do and this except paints Giddens as a bitter person who didn't take responsibility for himself for getting into a bad situation. The Micah Downs quote I'm guessing was supposed to be motivation for Giddens to work his butt off to prove Self wrong, but Giddens took it literally that Downs was going to come in and be handed Giddens spot instead of a challenge to make himself better that a statement like that is intended to do.
Not to mention that HCBS may have been saying it in a joking manner. We don't know the tone Self used, even though it's portrayed here to have been a cut. We all saw the love at the Legend's game. I don't think we need to worry that Bill is treating the boys badly. This may help sell books, but JR, we all know the score.
Self is bitingly sarcastic. He is not to be taken literally when he says things like that.J.R. was one of those people who had a sense of entitlement, and it ruined his Kansas career as well as KU's 2005 season. He single-handedly shot us out of the 2005 tournament. To this day, of the big NCAA upsets we've suffered in the Bill Self era, I still count that loss to Bucknell as the most humiliating of all.
from kusports comments...QuoteI don't think we need to worry that Bill is treating the boys badly.
I don't think we need to worry that Bill is treating the boys badly.
wow, seff. unreal (not even joking). JR Giddens excerpt....QuoteAny thoughts I had about leaving (school early) for the NBA ended when I got stabbed. After that I knew I wasn’t going anywhere. If anything, I was trying to figure out if I was ever going to play basketball again.I think that’s why they made me leave Kansas. The doctor said I would walk with a limp for the rest of my life. He said I was going to come back 50% and I wasn't going to be able to play basketball anymore.I’m not saying Kansas threw me out like a battery. But they get McDonald’s All-Americans every day. They weren’t going to let me stay around campus and be Moulaye Niang.Micah Downs was coming in. Bill Self used to always tell me, “Micah is coming in and he's better than you.” He would just say little stuff like that and I was like, “Dang, man, you’re not even for me, are you?” I wanted to stay at Kansas but I felt like they just pushed me out the door, especially after getting stabbed. I was like, “I'm sitting here worrying if I'm ever play basketball again and you guys are over here talking to me in an inappropriate manner? I'm 19 years old. You guys are supposed to my college coaches. Instead, at the first sign of trouble, you guys are turning your back on me?” I felt like it was everyone from the coaching staff to the people up there in the offices. As a 19-year-old who was immature and didn’t understand life, I took that really hard. I left the office in tears when I knew I was leaving.I remember that day really well. I walked out of there on crutches, crying. I’d been interrogated for about seven hours for three days straight. Then those guys did that to me? A few weeks before that, I had to move out of my dorm at the Towers. I and was staying with Josi Lima, my girlfriend at the time who played volleyball. Bill Self was telling my teammates not to have any contact with me. Darnell Jackson and Jeremy Case were two of my best friends, and they weren’t even allowed to talk to me. Aaron Miles was done playing so he came over. He was the only person who came and saw me. I was like, “Dang, I’m 30 feet from where I used to stay and you guys can’t even come over here and see me?” I’m stabbed and laid up and don’t even know if I’m going to play basketball again. That was very kind of Kansas basketball and Bill Self, to tell people to stay away from me like I was a team cancer.
Any thoughts I had about leaving (school early) for the NBA ended when I got stabbed. After that I knew I wasn’t going anywhere. If anything, I was trying to figure out if I was ever going to play basketball again.I think that’s why they made me leave Kansas. The doctor said I would walk with a limp for the rest of my life. He said I was going to come back 50% and I wasn't going to be able to play basketball anymore.I’m not saying Kansas threw me out like a battery. But they get McDonald’s All-Americans every day. They weren’t going to let me stay around campus and be Moulaye Niang.Micah Downs was coming in. Bill Self used to always tell me, “Micah is coming in and he's better than you.” He would just say little stuff like that and I was like, “Dang, man, you’re not even for me, are you?” I wanted to stay at Kansas but I felt like they just pushed me out the door, especially after getting stabbed. I was like, “I'm sitting here worrying if I'm ever play basketball again and you guys are over here talking to me in an inappropriate manner? I'm 19 years old. You guys are supposed to my college coaches. Instead, at the first sign of trouble, you guys are turning your back on me?” I felt like it was everyone from the coaching staff to the people up there in the offices. As a 19-year-old who was immature and didn’t understand life, I took that really hard. I left the office in tears when I knew I was leaving.I remember that day really well. I walked out of there on crutches, crying. I’d been interrogated for about seven hours for three days straight. Then those guys did that to me? A few weeks before that, I had to move out of my dorm at the Towers. I and was staying with Josi Lima, my girlfriend at the time who played volleyball. Bill Self was telling my teammates not to have any contact with me. Darnell Jackson and Jeremy Case were two of my best friends, and they weren’t even allowed to talk to me. Aaron Miles was done playing so he came over. He was the only person who came and saw me. I was like, “Dang, I’m 30 feet from where I used to stay and you guys can’t even come over here and see me?” I’m stabbed and laid up and don’t even know if I’m going to play basketball again. That was very kind of Kansas basketball and Bill Self, to tell people to stay away from me like I was a team cancer.
QuoteGiddens put himself in ... a situation that led to him being stabbed. ... This except paints Giddens as a bitter person who didn't take responsibility for himself for getting into a bad situation.
Giddens put himself in ... a situation that led to him being stabbed. ... This except paints Giddens as a bitter person who didn't take responsibility for himself for getting into a bad situation.
Cal also looks to get his players drafted and make millions of dollars. He allows players to play their game and doesn't conform them to a system or hide them on the bench so they don't get good draft grades, and are thus forced to return to school. He wants every player he coaches to have a successful life, and is the true definition of a player's coach. The same cannot be said for many coaches around the nation, who only care about how many wins and championships they have. Take Kansas coach Bill Self for example.
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Wildcat Blue Nation articleQuoteCal also looks to get his players drafted and make millions of dollars. He allows players to play their game and doesn't conform them to a system or hide them on the bench so they don't get good draft grades, and are thus forced to return to school. He wants every player he coaches to have a successful life, and is the true definition of a player's coach. The same cannot be said for many coaches around the nation, who only care about how many wins and championships they have. Take Kansas coach Bill Self for example.
Nothing he said came as a surprise. RT @CNSCasey: @JayhawkTalk what do you think of the Giddens quotes?
@CNSCasey these are the kinds of stories I'm worried about though. Micah Downs...C.J. Giles...Selby...they could all be worse than Giddens..
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If Self had kept Giddens on the team, you clowns would still be bitching about it. I love how you hayseeds try to act like you're all about MCMW, then you turn right around and complain that KU's got a bunch of thugs. So jealous. So bitter. So butthurt.
Frank has run off multiple players at K-State, you butthurt clowns. Look at Wally Judge, Nick Russell, Fred Brown, etc, etc. Quit being little bitches.
