Jobs

[OregonSmock]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

[_33]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?

[OregonSmock]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?

That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?

That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.

[OregonSmock]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?

That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.

There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 

[wetwillie]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?

That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.

There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 

Link?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?

That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.

There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 

Link?

http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/fact-sheet/bridges

[OregonSmock]

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/09/09/315827/report-as-their-states-bridges-and-roads-crumble-gop-leaders-remain-opposed-to-infrastructure-investment/

President Obama’s plan to kickstart the economy and put the American people back to work includes investing in the nation’s rapidly deteriorating infrastructure, which, as studies have shown, is in need of as much as $2 trillion in immediate investment just to bring it up to date. In the past, Republicans have agreed that infrastructure improvements are needed, but in the context of economic stimulus and in their effort to remain opposed to anything Obama offers, they have chosen to ignore the nation’s infrastructure and jobs crises. Unfortunately, that approach doesn’t mean either crisis will go away.

Republican leadership has continually blocked efforts by Obama and Congressional Democrats to invest in infrastructure improvements, and as a result, bridges and roadways in their states are crumbling. According to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics, about 12 percent of the nation’s bridges are considered “structurally deficient,” the same rating given to the Minneapolis bridge that collapsed in 2007, killing 13 people. Roughly another 12 percent are considered “functionally obsolete.” In four of the five states represented by Republican congressional leadership, the rate of structurally deficient or functionally obsolete bridges outpaces the national average. ThinkProgress compiled a breakdown of the status of roads and bridges in each of those five states and, where applicable, individual congressional districts:

    OHIO: 27 percent of the bridges Speaker John Boehner’s home state of Ohio are either “structurally deficient or functionally obsolete,” while one-fourth of its roads are considered poor or mediocre. At the heart of the Midwest, Ohio’s share of the national highway system has 171 highway bridges that are structurally deficient. 10 of those bridges are located in Boehner’s own district. Indeed, Obama singled out the Brent-Spence bridge connecting Ohio and Kentucky as “one of the busiest trucking routes in North America.” A recent Cincinnati Enquirer investigation into the bridge noted that it “is one of only 15 major interstate bridges in the country labeled by the federal government as ‘functionally obsolete’ for failure to meet safety or traffic flow standards.”

    KENTUCKY: More than one-third (34 percent) of the bridges in Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s home state are structurally deficient or obsolete, including the Brent-Spence Bridge. Of those bridges, 108 are located on the national highway system, according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. Nearly one in five of Kentucky’s roads are in poor or mediocre condition.

    VIRGINIA: In House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s home state, 26 percent of bridges are considered structurally deficient or obsolete, 104 of which are on the national highway system. Nearly one in four of the state’s roads are considered to be in poor or mediocre condition. In Cantor’s congressional district, 11 national highway bridges are considered deficient.

    ARIZONA: In Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl’s home state, 12 percent of the bridges are “structurally deficient or functionally obsolete.” Of those in the national highway system, 25 are structurally deficient. Indeed, a recent report found that the poor rural roads and bridges in Arizona, where 21 percent of roads are considered poor or mediocre, have earned the state the eighth highest rural traffic fatality rate in the nation.

    CALIFORNIA: Home to House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy, California is perhaps most in need of infrastructure improvement. Thirty percent of its bridges are “structurally deficient or fundamentally obsolete.” Though a well-traveled state, California has a whopping 976 bridges on its national highways that are structurally deficient; 24 of those bridges are in McCarthy’s district. California ranks 19th in the nation for percentage of rural bridges that are structurally deficient, and two-thirds of its major roads are in poor or mediocre condition.

Even as roads and bridges in their states fall apart, Republicans remain opposed to Obama’s efforts to invest in improvement projects. When progressives and Democrats pushed for more infrastructure spending in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, Republicans demanded a bigger emphasis on tax cuts. When House Democrats passed a jobs bill geared toward infrastructure investment in February 2010, Republicans derailed it in the Senate. And unless the GOP undergoes a radical shift in priorities in the next few months, yet another plan that will help solve both America’s infrastructure and jobs crises will die at the hands of Congressional Republicans.

The result, as statistics from these five states show, is that the country continues to watch its infrastructure crumble while leaders in the Republican Party sit idly by, refusing to do anything about it.

[wetwillie]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession.  

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?

That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill.  

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.

There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project.  

Link?

http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/fact-sheet/bridges

Welp, says we spend 10.5 billion annually and need to spend 17 Billion annually.  I don't think spending 6 billion a year is going to put that big of a dent into unemployment.  Would be nice to have nice things though.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession.  

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?

That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill.  

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.

There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project.  

Link?

http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/fact-sheet/bridges

Welp, says we spend 10.5 billion annually and need to spend 17 Billion annually.  I don't think spending 6 billion a year is going to put that big of a dent into unemployment.  Would be nice to have nice things though.

Oh, I agree. I was just supporting Beems' claim that we actually do have significant infrastructure problems.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Clearly, if we raise the marginal tax rates on millionaires and billionaires making over $200,000 per year by 2% and fix some bridges and roads the economic problem will be solved.  It's that easy guys.

If it wasn't for those gosh darn bush tax cuts where everyone working got to keep more of their own money this would have never happened. 

It has nothing to do with an oppressive regulatory environment, like all the people in business say.  It has nothing to do with the full frontal assault on business by the POTUS, like all the business people say.  It has nothing to do with the gridlock in DC, like all the business people say.  It has nothing to do with the crushing deficit our country owns, which the POTUS increased by 60% in just two short years and inhibits our ability to borrow to fund government spending, like all the business people say.  It certainly has nothing to do with the crony capitalism of the last few years (i.e. Solydra).  It has nothing to do with federal government spending which has almost doubled in the last 10 years, like all the business people say.

Clearly, the problem is that we aren't fixing enough roads and bridges with money that we don't have, like BMW says.  Is B.O. even pimping this nonsense anymore?


Does anyone understand that capital not unlimited, that there is a limited supply to deploy and that the more that is siphoned off by government, for failure projects and to fund bureaucracies, the less flexible and efficient our economy can be?

Has anyone noticed that the economy the progressives and the POTUS dream of is failing miserably and literally on fire in Europe?  Do you people pay attention at all?  Are you all actually that stupid?  Looks at the 50 beta projects with have in the U.S., look at what works and what doesn't.  What don't you people understand?

[Rage Against the McKee]

Clearly, if we raise the marginal tax rates on millionaires and billionaires making over $200,000 per year by 2% and fix some bridges and roads the economic problem will be solved.  It's that easy guys.

If it wasn't for those gosh darn bush tax cuts where everyone working got to keep more of their own money this would have never happened. 

It has nothing to do with an oppressive regulatory environment, like all the people in business say.  It has nothing to do with the full frontal assault on business by the POTUS, like all the business people say.  It has nothing to do with the gridlock in DC, like all the business people say.  It has nothing to do with the crushing deficit our country owns, which the POTUS increased by 60% in just two short years and inhibits our ability to borrow to fund government spending, like all the business people say.  It certainly has nothing to do with the crony capitalism of the last few years (i.e. Solydra).  It has nothing to do with federal government spending which has almost doubled in the last 10 years, like all the business people say.

Clearly, the problem is that we aren't fixing enough roads and bridges with money that we don't have, like BMW says.  Is B.O. even pimping this nonsense anymore?


Does anyone understand that capital not unlimited, that there is a limited supply to deploy and that the more that is siphoned off by government, for failure projects and to fund bureaucracies, the less flexible and efficient our economy can be?

Has anyone noticed that the economy the progressives and the POTUS dream of is failing miserably and literally on fire in Europe?  Do you people pay attention at all?  Are you all actually that stupid?  Looks at the 50 beta projects with have in the U.S., look at what works and what doesn't.  What don't you people understand?

The economic problem might not be solved, but at least we wouldn't have structurally deficient roads and bridges.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?

That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.

There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 

Do you understand how long it takes to get a major road or bridge project going? Literally years. They may need repair now, but environmental impact studies cost millions and take years.

After the Northridge (LA) earthquake, 2 portions of interstate 10 were collapsed. Caltrans said it would take 2-3 years to repair the damage due to the long processes required by the state and feds. Then governor Pete Wilson said "bullshit" and waved all environmental and procedural roadblocks and the $30 million freeway repair was finished in less than 3 months. If Obama wants infrastructure projects to have any affect on the current economy, this is what he has to do, but it will infuriate his base and enviro-nuts like you.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?

That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.

There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 

Do you understand how long it takes to get a major road or bridge project going? Literally years. They may need repair now, but environmental impact studies cost millions and take years.

After the Northridge (LA) earthquake, 2 portions of interstate 10 were collapsed. Caltrans said it would take 2-3 years to repair the damage due to the long processes required by the state and feds. Then governor Pete Wilson said "bullshit" and waved all environmental and procedural roadblocks and the $30 million freeway repair was finished in less than 3 months. If Obama wants infrastructure projects to have any affect on the current economy, this is what he has to do, but it will infuriate his base and enviro-nuts like you.

I'd like to see one of these environmental impact studies that cost millions.

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?

That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.

There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 

Do you understand how long it takes to get a major road or bridge project going? Literally years. They may need repair now, but environmental impact studies cost millions and take years.

After the Northridge (LA) earthquake, 2 portions of interstate 10 were collapsed. Caltrans said it would take 2-3 years to repair the damage due to the long processes required by the state and feds. Then governor Pete Wilson said "bullshit" and waved all environmental and procedural roadblocks and the $30 million freeway repair was finished in less than 3 months. If Obama wants infrastructure projects to have any affect on the current economy, this is what he has to do, but it will infuriate his base and enviro-nuts like you.

I'd like to see one of these environmental impact studies that cost millions.

You need to come to California.

[OregonSmock]

Capital gains taxes are at an all-time low.  Corporate profits are at an all-time high.  But, but, but... there's uncertainty in the stock market!!! 


What a bunch of bullshit.  There's always going to be uncertainty in the stock market.  That's why the higher risk stocks yield higher returns.  The Republicans are simply playing political games in order to make Obama a one-term President.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you can't see that then you're nothing more than a puppet who listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Fox News on a regular basis. 

[pike]

Capital gains taxes are at an all-time low.  Corporate profits are at an all-time high.  But, but, but... there's uncertainty in the stock market!!! 


What a bunch of bullshit.  There's always going to be uncertainty in the stock market.  That's why the higher risk stocks yield higher returns.  The Republicans are simply playing political games in order to make Obama a one-term President.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you can't see that then you're nothing more than a puppet who listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Fox News on a regular basis. 

Obama himself is a puppet. Most presidents are.

[OregonSmock]

Capital gains taxes are at an all-time low.  Corporate profits are at an all-time high.  But, but, but... there's uncertainty in the stock market!!! 


What a bunch of bullshit.  There's always going to be uncertainty in the stock market.  That's why the higher risk stocks yield higher returns.  The Republicans are simply playing political games in order to make Obama a one-term President.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you can't see that then you're nothing more than a puppet who listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Fox News on a regular basis. 

Obama himself is a puppet. Most presidents are.

He's one of the more genuine, self-made presidents we've had in quite some time. 

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Capital gains taxes are at an all-time low.  Corporate profits are at an all-time high.  But, but, but... there's uncertainty in the stock market!!! 


What a bunch of bullshit.  There's always going to be uncertainty in the stock market.  That's why the higher risk stocks yield higher returns.  The Republicans are simply playing political games in order to make Obama a one-term President.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you can't see that then you're nothing more than a puppet who listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Fox News on a regular basis. 

Obama himself is a puppet. Most presidents are.

He's one of the more genuine, self-made presidents we've had in quite some time. 

   Self made?!  This LOL was brought to you by NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, Aljazeera, CNBC, NPR, PBS, AP, Reuters, etc, etc.....

[OregonSmock]

Yeah, john.  The national media is completely responsible for taking a low income minority kid (raised by a single mom) and making him President of the United States.  It's easy as hell to graduate with honors from Columbia and Harvard University, along with being president of the Harvard Law Review.  Becoming a community organizer in inner city Chicago is the route most Harvard graduates would have taken after college, particularly those who graduated with honors.  Oh, and becoming the first ever African-American president in a country that's primarily white... well, that's just a piece of cake. 

    

[john "teach me how to" dougie]

Yeah, john.  The national media is completely responsible for taking a low income minority kid (raised by a single mom) and making him President of the United States.  It's easy as hell to graduate with honors from Columbia and Harvard University, along with being president of the Harvard Law Review.  Becoming a community organizer in inner city Chicago is the route most Harvard graduates would have taken after college, particularly those who graduated with honors.  Oh, and becoming the first ever African-American president in a country that's primarily white... well, that's just a piece of cake. 

    

So you are the only person outside of Columbia and Harvard that has seen his transcripts. Incredible.

[Rage Against the McKee]

Yeah, john.  The national media is completely responsible for taking a low income minority kid (raised by a single mom) and making him President of the United States.  It's easy as hell to graduate with honors from Columbia and Harvard University, along with being president of the Harvard Law Review.  Becoming a community organizer in inner city Chicago is the route most Harvard graduates would have taken after college, particularly those who graduated with honors.  Oh, and becoming the first ever African-American president in a country that's primarily white... well, that's just a piece of cake. 

    

So you are the only person outside of Columbia and Harvard that has seen his transcripts. Incredible.

 

[CNS]

Yeah, john.  The national media is completely responsible for taking a low income minority kid (raised by a single mom) and making him President of the United States.  It's easy as hell to graduate with honors from Columbia and Harvard University, along with being president of the Harvard Law Review.  Becoming a community organizer in inner city Chicago is the route most Harvard graduates would have taken after college, particularly those who graduated with honors.  Oh, and becoming the first ever African-American president in a country that's primarily white... well, that's just a piece of cake. 

    

So you are the only person outside of Columbia and Harvard that has seen his transcripts. Incredible.

  

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Capital gains taxes are at an all-time low.  Corporate profits are at an all-time high.  But, but, but... there's uncertainty in the stock market!!!  


What a bunch of bullshit.  There's always going to be uncertainty in the stock market.  That's why the higher risk stocks yield higher returns.  The Republicans are simply playing political games in order to make Obama a one-term President.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you can't see that then you're nothing more than a puppet who listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Fox News on a regular basis.  

What an incredibly irrational chain of thought.  A look into the mind of a sociopath.

[8manpick]

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