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Title: Jobs
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 06, 2011, 06:33:54 PM
I heard we didn't add any last month.   :thumbs:

I heard the shitty jobs numbers from the last two months were revised down 57,000.   :thumbs:


I blame the half of the half of the legislative process the GOP controls.  Clearly more government spending, a 2% tax on "rich people", and some govt. mandated green innovation would cure all this.   Perhaps the govt. should mandate cash bloated, uber-profitable corporations fire people overseas and hire them here.

This would solve all of the problems the GOP created when the dems controlled all of the half of the legislative process.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 06, 2011, 06:55:14 PM
This isn't good is it?

http://finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=^DJI+Interactive#chart4:symbol=^dji;range=3m;indicator=volume;charttype=line;crosshair=on;ohlcvalues=0;logscale=on;source=undefined

Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Bookcat on September 07, 2011, 12:29:24 PM
I heard we didn't add any last month.   :thumbs:

I heard the shitty jobs numbers from the last two months were revised down 57,000.   :thumbs:


I blame the half of the half of the legislative process the GOP controls.  Clearly more government spending, a 2% tax on "rich people", and some govt. mandated green innovation would cure all this.   Perhaps the govt. should mandate cash bloated, uber-profitable corporations fire people overseas and hire them here.

This would solve all of the problems the GOP created when the dems controlled all of the half of the legislative process.

at least yur admitting that the mega-corps are sitting on record profits while foreclosures are at an all-time high.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: pike on September 07, 2011, 12:57:04 PM
I need a job  :curse:
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 07, 2011, 01:12:06 PM
I need a job  :curse:

They aren't very hard to find unless you want to work in a factory or something.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 07, 2011, 03:52:39 PM
I heard we didn't add any last month.   :thumbs:

I heard the shitty jobs numbers from the last two months were revised down 57,000.   :thumbs:


I blame the half of the half of the legislative process the GOP controls.  Clearly more government spending, a 2% tax on "rich people", and some govt. mandated green innovation would cure all this.   Perhaps the govt. should mandate cash bloated, uber-profitable corporations fire people overseas and hire them here.

This would solve all of the problems the GOP created when the dems controlled all of the half of the legislative process.

at least yur admitting that the mega-corps are sitting on record profits while foreclosures are at an all-time high.

What does one have to do with the other?

Mega-corp is watching out for their investors money during a recession and waiting for common sense to take over the government.

Meanwhile, Barney Frank Mortgage Mega-Corp, Inc gave loans to people that couldn't afford them. Don't see the correlation. School me.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 07, 2011, 07:27:15 PM

This should be the hottest topic, given the big speech the Pres has prepared!!!!   


:comeatme:   :blah: jobs saved     :blah: middle class         :blah:  fair share          :blah:   challenges I inherited      :blah: racism
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 07, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
Never mind.  Labor Dept. has this new awesome way to figure out the strength of the job market.  Job postings!

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WASHINGTON (AP) — Companies in July advertised the most jobs in three years, and layoffs declined — a bit of hope for a weak economy. Still, many employers are in no rush to fill openings.

The Labor Department said Wednesday that employers increased their postings to 3.23 million from 3.17 million in June. That is the largest number of openings since August 2008. Typically, it takes anywhere from one to three months to fill an opening.

More openings don't guarantee more jobs. The government said last week that employers failed to add any net jobs in August, the worst month for hiring since September 2010. The unemployment rate stayed for the second straight month at 9.1 percent.

The worsening jobs outlook has put pressure on President Barack Obama. He is expected on Thursday to introduce a $300 billion jobs package before a joint session of Congress. The plan will likely include extensions of the payroll tax cut and long-term unemployment benefits, tax incentives for businesses that hire and money for public works projects.

There's heavy competition for each job. Nearly 14 million people were out of work in July. So roughly 4.3 unemployed workers were competing for each opening. That's a slight improvement from June, when the ratio was 4.45. In a healthy economy, the ratio is closed to 2 to 1.

Total openings are about 1.1 million higher than they were in July 2009, one month after the recession officially ended. But they are still far below the 4.4 million openings that existed in December 2007, when the recession began.

The biggest gains in openings were reported in manufacturing, trade, transportation and utilities.

The report, known as the Job Openings and Labor Turnover survey, or JOLTs, illustrates the high degree of churn that takes place in the job market each month. Total hiring in July slowed, to 3.98 million from 4.06 million.

Total layoffs and quits also dropped to 3.92 million from 3.99 million. The difference between total hires and total quits and layoffs is similar to the net jobs gain of 85,000 reported for July.

The economy isn't growing enough to spur much hiring. It expanded at an annual pace of only 0.7 percent in the first six months of this year, the slowest growth since the recession ended. Growth may improve to a 2 percent rate in the second half, economists forecast, but that's still too weak to encourage much hiring.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 08, 2011, 08:48:15 PM

Did anyone watch the pee tingling speech.  I know I didn't  :emawkid:
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 08, 2011, 10:22:49 PM

So in reading about the Obama "big speech" for his "jobs bill" to save the economy it appears that:

After 3 years of trying bullshit run of the mill dem policy which predictably failed, he's abandon that plan for one similar to what the repubs wanted back in the days of "stimulus". 

And he's trying to pretend it's his idea.


What a rough ridin' baffoon.  This guy is a political side show.  He's a walking parody on politics.  How can people be so blind to this? 

The republicans should shove it up his ass and say no.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 09, 2011, 01:43:45 PM
So after years of disagreeing with me, now that stupid son of a bitch is trying to do what I've always said needs to be done. What a dumbass! I hope the republicans say no to prove how stupid he is.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 10, 2011, 10:41:46 AM
So after years of disagreeing with me, now that stupid son of a bitch is trying to do what I've always said needs to be done. What a dumbass! I hope the republicans say no to prove how stupid he is.

Agreed.

As politicians, what rough ridin' incentive to the repubs have to go along with this bad person?  They proposed this and he demogogued them.  Three years later, he's pretending to propose this and "dares" them not to go along with "his plan".  MSM plays dumb (or is dumb), he has carte blanche to lie and deceive the unwashed masses some more. 

It's complete political bullshit.  The person to blame for this rough ridin' nonsense is the so-called commander in chief.  If he wasn't such a divisive, manipulative, psychopathic little crap and actually acted like a president this country would be in much better shape.  He's asking a bunch of arrogant repub politicians to fall on the sword for him and diminish their chance at reelection in exchange for what?  So he can take credit for their idea?  He's never done anything but crap on them and blame every one of his fuckups on them.  He's a rough ridin' assclown, and he knows it's not going to get done.  Just another chance to posture for 2012.  An unbelievable narcissistic POS.  This guy has put himself ahead of the country every day of his life, which was fine until he became president.

It's incomprehensible that so many people stand in support of this crap.  Worst president ever.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Bookcat on September 16, 2011, 07:49:21 PM
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This guy has put himself ahead of the country every day of his life

and the Tea Party refused to budge one inch on the debt ceiling compromise and it cost us our credit rating..


oh wait that's Obama's fualt too.


 :jerk:
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 17, 2011, 10:51:31 AM
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This guy has put himself ahead of the country every day of his life

and the Tea Party refused to budge one inch on the debt ceiling compromise and it cost us our credit rating..


oh wait that's Obama's fualt too.


 :jerk:

 :facepalm:

If the president would have done what the tea party wanted, we wouldn't have lost our credit rating you stupid ignorant dumb [redacted].  There plan certainly wasn't implemented, so how did they "not budge"?

Do you actually believe everything you type or are you just some ignorant lib caricature? 
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 19, 2011, 11:26:24 PM
So angry.  So full of hate. 
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 20, 2011, 08:20:35 PM
So angry.  So full of hate. 

excellent personification of the current POTUS and the liberal base

 :thumbs:
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 21, 2011, 07:06:37 PM
So angry.  So full of hate. 

excellent personification of the current POTUS and the liberal base

 :thumbs:



Where were you when we lost almost 2 million jobs in the last few months of the Bush adminstration?
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 21, 2011, 07:23:13 PM
Can you feel it?  Can you feel all of those job creators trickling down all of those jobs?  Thank God for the Bush era tax cuts. 
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: wetwillie on September 21, 2011, 07:41:25 PM
:frown: I'm sorry Ben I am sure you will find work soon. 
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 21, 2011, 07:46:33 PM
Seriously, can you feel it trickling down?  Can you feel all of those job creators creating all of those jobs?  It's amazing, isn't it?


Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: _33 on September 21, 2011, 08:35:17 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: hemmy on September 21, 2011, 08:37:43 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.

Genocide is the only solution.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 21, 2011, 08:42:57 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



Ideas are the foundation behind job creation.  Taxes have no correlation with economic growth.  None.  Marginal tax rates were higher during the Clinton adminstration than they are now, and over 23 million jobs were created during that time period. 
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: pike on September 21, 2011, 08:52:52 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



Ideas are the foundation behind job creation.  Taxes have no correlation with economic growth.  None.  Marginal tax rates were higher during the Clinton adminstration than they are now, and over 23 million jobs were created during that time period. 

We need someone to invent something huge again, like the internet. It's our only hope  :frown:
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 21, 2011, 08:54:59 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



Ideas are the foundation behind job creation.  Taxes have no correlation with economic growth.  None.  Marginal tax rates were higher during the Clinton adminstration than they are now, and over 23 million jobs were created during that time period. 

We need someone to invent something huge again, like the internet. It's our only hope  :frown:



In the 1950's they put people to work on infrastructure projects.  We built highways, bridges, roads, etc, etc.  It's time to upgrade our mass transportation system and put steel foundries, construction companies, contractors, and others back to business.  This isn't hard. 
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 21, 2011, 08:58:04 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: _33 on September 21, 2011, 11:01:12 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 22, 2011, 02:55:32 AM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?



That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 22, 2011, 11:17:28 AM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?



That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 22, 2011, 12:50:16 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?



That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.



There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2011, 12:51:11 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?



That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.



There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 

Link?
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 22, 2011, 12:55:09 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?



That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.



There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 

Link?

http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/fact-sheet/bridges (http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/fact-sheet/bridges)
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 22, 2011, 12:56:53 PM
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/09/09/315827/report-as-their-states-bridges-and-roads-crumble-gop-leaders-remain-opposed-to-infrastructure-investment/ (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/09/09/315827/report-as-their-states-bridges-and-roads-crumble-gop-leaders-remain-opposed-to-infrastructure-investment/)

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President Obama’s plan to kickstart the economy and put the American people back to work includes investing in the nation’s rapidly deteriorating infrastructure, which, as studies have shown, is in need of as much as $2 trillion in immediate investment just to bring it up to date. In the past, Republicans have agreed that infrastructure improvements are needed, but in the context of economic stimulus and in their effort to remain opposed to anything Obama offers, they have chosen to ignore the nation’s infrastructure and jobs crises. Unfortunately, that approach doesn’t mean either crisis will go away.

Republican leadership has continually blocked efforts by Obama and Congressional Democrats to invest in infrastructure improvements, and as a result, bridges and roadways in their states are crumbling. According to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics, about 12 percent of the nation’s bridges are considered “structurally deficient,” the same rating given to the Minneapolis bridge that collapsed in 2007, killing 13 people. Roughly another 12 percent are considered “functionally obsolete.” In four of the five states represented by Republican congressional leadership, the rate of structurally deficient or functionally obsolete bridges outpaces the national average. ThinkProgress compiled a breakdown of the status of roads and bridges in each of those five states and, where applicable, individual congressional districts:

    OHIO: 27 percent of the bridges Speaker John Boehner’s home state of Ohio are either “structurally deficient or functionally obsolete,” while one-fourth of its roads are considered poor or mediocre. At the heart of the Midwest, Ohio’s share of the national highway system has 171 highway bridges that are structurally deficient. 10 of those bridges are located in Boehner’s own district. Indeed, Obama singled out the Brent-Spence bridge connecting Ohio and Kentucky as “one of the busiest trucking routes in North America.” A recent Cincinnati Enquirer investigation into the bridge noted that it “is one of only 15 major interstate bridges in the country labeled by the federal government as ‘functionally obsolete’ for failure to meet safety or traffic flow standards.”

    KENTUCKY: More than one-third (34 percent) of the bridges in Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell’s home state are structurally deficient or obsolete, including the Brent-Spence Bridge. Of those bridges, 108 are located on the national highway system, according to the Bureau of Transportation Statistics. Nearly one in five of Kentucky’s roads are in poor or mediocre condition.

    VIRGINIA: In House Majority Leader Eric Cantor’s home state, 26 percent of bridges are considered structurally deficient or obsolete, 104 of which are on the national highway system. Nearly one in four of the state’s roads are considered to be in poor or mediocre condition. In Cantor’s congressional district, 11 national highway bridges are considered deficient.

    ARIZONA: In Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl’s home state, 12 percent of the bridges are “structurally deficient or functionally obsolete.” Of those in the national highway system, 25 are structurally deficient. Indeed, a recent report found that the poor rural roads and bridges in Arizona, where 21 percent of roads are considered poor or mediocre, have earned the state the eighth highest rural traffic fatality rate in the nation.

    CALIFORNIA: Home to House Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy, California is perhaps most in need of infrastructure improvement. Thirty percent of its bridges are “structurally deficient or fundamentally obsolete.” Though a well-traveled state, California has a whopping 976 bridges on its national highways that are structurally deficient; 24 of those bridges are in McCarthy’s district. California ranks 19th in the nation for percentage of rural bridges that are structurally deficient, and two-thirds of its major roads are in poor or mediocre condition.

Even as roads and bridges in their states fall apart, Republicans remain opposed to Obama’s efforts to invest in improvement projects. When progressives and Democrats pushed for more infrastructure spending in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, Republicans demanded a bigger emphasis on tax cuts. When House Democrats passed a jobs bill geared toward infrastructure investment in February 2010, Republicans derailed it in the Senate. And unless the GOP undergoes a radical shift in priorities in the next few months, yet another plan that will help solve both America’s infrastructure and jobs crises will die at the hands of Congressional Republicans.

The result, as statistics from these five states show, is that the country continues to watch its infrastructure crumble while leaders in the Republican Party sit idly by, refusing to do anything about it.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: wetwillie on September 22, 2011, 01:00:30 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession.  

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?



That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill.  

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.



There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project.  

Link?

http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/fact-sheet/bridges (http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/fact-sheet/bridges)

Welp, says we spend 10.5 billion annually and need to spend 17 Billion annually.  I don't think spending 6 billion a year is going to put that big of a dent into unemployment.  Would be nice to have nice things though.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 22, 2011, 01:08:50 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession.  

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?



That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill.  

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.



There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project.  

Link?

http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/fact-sheet/bridges (http://www.infrastructurereportcard.org/fact-sheet/bridges)

Welp, says we spend 10.5 billion annually and need to spend 17 Billion annually.  I don't think spending 6 billion a year is going to put that big of a dent into unemployment.  Would be nice to have nice things though.

Oh, I agree. I was just supporting Beems' claim that we actually do have significant infrastructure problems.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 22, 2011, 01:49:51 PM

Clearly, if we raise the marginal tax rates on millionaires and billionaires making over $200,000 per year by 2% and fix some bridges and roads the economic problem will be solved.  It's that easy guys. :comeatme:

If it wasn't for those gosh darn bush tax cuts where everyone working got to keep more of their own money this would have never happened.  :comeatme:

It has nothing to do with an oppressive regulatory environment, like all the people in business say.  It has nothing to do with the full frontal assault on business by the POTUS, like all the business people say.  It has nothing to do with the gridlock in DC, like all the business people say.  It has nothing to do with the crushing deficit our country owns, which the POTUS increased by 60% in just two short years and inhibits our ability to borrow to fund government spending, like all the business people say.  It certainly has nothing to do with the crony capitalism of the last few years (i.e. Solydra).  It has nothing to do with federal government spending which has almost doubled in the last 10 years, like all the business people say.

Clearly, the problem is that we aren't fixing enough roads and bridges with money that we don't have, like BMW says.  Is B.O. even pimping this nonsense anymore?


Does anyone understand that capital not unlimited, that there is a limited supply to deploy and that the more that is siphoned off by government, for failure projects and to fund bureaucracies, the less flexible and efficient our economy can be?

Has anyone noticed that the economy the progressives and the POTUS dream of is failing miserably and literally on fire in Europe?  Do you people pay attention at all?  Are you all actually that stupid?  Looks at the 50 beta projects with have in the U.S., look at what works and what doesn't.  What don't you people understand?
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 22, 2011, 01:52:20 PM

Clearly, if we raise the marginal tax rates on millionaires and billionaires making over $200,000 per year by 2% and fix some bridges and roads the economic problem will be solved.  It's that easy guys. :comeatme:

If it wasn't for those gosh darn bush tax cuts where everyone working got to keep more of their own money this would have never happened.  :comeatme:

It has nothing to do with an oppressive regulatory environment, like all the people in business say.  It has nothing to do with the full frontal assault on business by the POTUS, like all the business people say.  It has nothing to do with the gridlock in DC, like all the business people say.  It has nothing to do with the crushing deficit our country owns, which the POTUS increased by 60% in just two short years and inhibits our ability to borrow to fund government spending, like all the business people say.  It certainly has nothing to do with the crony capitalism of the last few years (i.e. Solydra).  It has nothing to do with federal government spending which has almost doubled in the last 10 years, like all the business people say.

Clearly, the problem is that we aren't fixing enough roads and bridges with money that we don't have, like BMW says.  Is B.O. even pimping this nonsense anymore?


Does anyone understand that capital not unlimited, that there is a limited supply to deploy and that the more that is siphoned off by government, for failure projects and to fund bureaucracies, the less flexible and efficient our economy can be?

Has anyone noticed that the economy the progressives and the POTUS dream of is failing miserably and literally on fire in Europe?  Do you people pay attention at all?  Are you all actually that stupid?  Looks at the 50 beta projects with have in the U.S., look at what works and what doesn't.  What don't you people understand?

The economic problem might not be solved, but at least we wouldn't have structurally deficient roads and bridges.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 22, 2011, 04:05:14 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?



That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.



There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 

Do you understand how long it takes to get a major road or bridge project going? Literally years. They may need repair now, but environmental impact studies cost millions and take years.

After the Northridge (LA) earthquake, 2 portions of interstate 10 were collapsed. Caltrans said it would take 2-3 years to repair the damage due to the long processes required by the state and feds. Then governor Pete Wilson said "bullshit" and waved all environmental and procedural roadblocks and the $30 million freeway repair was finished in less than 3 months. If Obama wants infrastructure projects to have any affect on the current economy, this is what he has to do, but it will infuriate his base and enviro-nuts like you.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 22, 2011, 04:14:14 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?



That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.



There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 

Do you understand how long it takes to get a major road or bridge project going? Literally years. They may need repair now, but environmental impact studies cost millions and take years.

After the Northridge (LA) earthquake, 2 portions of interstate 10 were collapsed. Caltrans said it would take 2-3 years to repair the damage due to the long processes required by the state and feds. Then governor Pete Wilson said "bullshit" and waved all environmental and procedural roadblocks and the $30 million freeway repair was finished in less than 3 months. If Obama wants infrastructure projects to have any affect on the current economy, this is what he has to do, but it will infuriate his base and enviro-nuts like you.

I'd like to see one of these environmental impact studies that cost millions.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 22, 2011, 04:29:31 PM
Well, if cutting taxes for companies/rich doesn't create jobs and "injecting" billions of dollars via stimulus doesn't create jobs then what does?  Maybe nothing creates jobs. Or maybe there are the right number of jobs just too many people.  Hmmmm.



By the way, the Congressional Budget Office found in a recent study that the stimulus saved/created up to 2.8 million jobs.  Problem is that the stimulus wasn't substantial enough to get us all the way out of the recession. 

So the first stimulus almost got us all the way out? Let's just do another one and get all the way out. Or do we need ideas or something?



That's exactly what President Obama's trying to do with this new $450 billion American Jobs bill. 

The only thing he is trying to accomplish with his massive tax and fee increase program is employ more union workers through 2012, who will in turn vote for him. Those jobs will be gone again when this round of spending runs out.



There are literally thousands of roads, bridges, and other infrastructure projects that need work immediately.  This is a long-term project. 

Do you understand how long it takes to get a major road or bridge project going? Literally years. They may need repair now, but environmental impact studies cost millions and take years.

After the Northridge (LA) earthquake, 2 portions of interstate 10 were collapsed. Caltrans said it would take 2-3 years to repair the damage due to the long processes required by the state and feds. Then governor Pete Wilson said "bullshit" and waved all environmental and procedural roadblocks and the $30 million freeway repair was finished in less than 3 months. If Obama wants infrastructure projects to have any affect on the current economy, this is what he has to do, but it will infuriate his base and enviro-nuts like you.

I'd like to see one of these environmental impact studies that cost millions.

You need to come to California.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 22, 2011, 04:57:05 PM
Capital gains taxes are at an all-time low.  Corporate profits are at an all-time high.  But, but, but... there's uncertainty in the stock market!!! 


What a bunch of bullshit.  There's always going to be uncertainty in the stock market.  That's why the higher risk stocks yield higher returns.  The Republicans are simply playing political games in order to make Obama a one-term President.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you can't see that then you're nothing more than a puppet who listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Fox News on a regular basis. 
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: pike on September 22, 2011, 05:13:04 PM
Capital gains taxes are at an all-time low.  Corporate profits are at an all-time high.  But, but, but... there's uncertainty in the stock market!!! 


What a bunch of bullshit.  There's always going to be uncertainty in the stock market.  That's why the higher risk stocks yield higher returns.  The Republicans are simply playing political games in order to make Obama a one-term President.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you can't see that then you're nothing more than a puppet who listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Fox News on a regular basis. 

Obama himself is a puppet. Most presidents are.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 22, 2011, 05:39:48 PM
Capital gains taxes are at an all-time low.  Corporate profits are at an all-time high.  But, but, but... there's uncertainty in the stock market!!! 


What a bunch of bullshit.  There's always going to be uncertainty in the stock market.  That's why the higher risk stocks yield higher returns.  The Republicans are simply playing political games in order to make Obama a one-term President.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you can't see that then you're nothing more than a puppet who listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Fox News on a regular basis. 

Obama himself is a puppet. Most presidents are.



He's one of the more genuine, self-made presidents we've had in quite some time. 
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 22, 2011, 05:53:27 PM
Capital gains taxes are at an all-time low.  Corporate profits are at an all-time high.  But, but, but... there's uncertainty in the stock market!!! 


What a bunch of bullshit.  There's always going to be uncertainty in the stock market.  That's why the higher risk stocks yield higher returns.  The Republicans are simply playing political games in order to make Obama a one-term President.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you can't see that then you're nothing more than a puppet who listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Fox News on a regular basis. 

Obama himself is a puppet. Most presidents are.



He's one of the more genuine, self-made presidents we've had in quite some time. 

 :lol:  Self made?!  This LOL was brought to you by NBC, CBS, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, Aljazeera, CNBC, NPR, PBS, AP, Reuters, etc, etc.....
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: OregonSmock on September 22, 2011, 06:08:24 PM
Yeah, john.  The national media is completely responsible for taking a low income minority kid (raised by a single mom) and making him President of the United States.  It's easy as hell to graduate with honors from Columbia and Harvard University, along with being president of the Harvard Law Review.  Becoming a community organizer in inner city Chicago is the route most Harvard graduates would have taken after college, particularly those who graduated with honors.  Oh, and becoming the first ever African-American president in a country that's primarily white... well, that's just a piece of cake. 

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: john "teach me how to" dougie on September 22, 2011, 06:58:56 PM
Yeah, john.  The national media is completely responsible for taking a low income minority kid (raised by a single mom) and making him President of the United States.  It's easy as hell to graduate with honors from Columbia and Harvard University, along with being president of the Harvard Law Review.  Becoming a community organizer in inner city Chicago is the route most Harvard graduates would have taken after college, particularly those who graduated with honors.  Oh, and becoming the first ever African-American president in a country that's primarily white... well, that's just a piece of cake. 

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

So you are the only person outside of Columbia and Harvard that has seen his transcripts. Incredible.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Rage Against the McKee on September 23, 2011, 12:40:09 AM
Yeah, john.  The national media is completely responsible for taking a low income minority kid (raised by a single mom) and making him President of the United States.  It's easy as hell to graduate with honors from Columbia and Harvard University, along with being president of the Harvard Law Review.  Becoming a community organizer in inner city Chicago is the route most Harvard graduates would have taken after college, particularly those who graduated with honors.  Oh, and becoming the first ever African-American president in a country that's primarily white... well, that's just a piece of cake. 

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

So you are the only person outside of Columbia and Harvard that has seen his transcripts. Incredible.

 :lol:
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: CNS on September 23, 2011, 09:21:18 AM
Yeah, john.  The national media is completely responsible for taking a low income minority kid (raised by a single mom) and making him President of the United States.  It's easy as hell to graduate with honors from Columbia and Harvard University, along with being president of the Harvard Law Review.  Becoming a community organizer in inner city Chicago is the route most Harvard graduates would have taken after college, particularly those who graduated with honors.  Oh, and becoming the first ever African-American president in a country that's primarily white... well, that's just a piece of cake. 

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

So you are the only person outside of Columbia and Harvard that has seen his transcripts. Incredible.

 :jeffy:  :sdeek:
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) on September 26, 2011, 06:51:39 PM
Capital gains taxes are at an all-time low.  Corporate profits are at an all-time high.  But, but, but... there's uncertainty in the stock market!!!  


What a bunch of bullshit.  There's always going to be uncertainty in the stock market.  That's why the higher risk stocks yield higher returns.  The Republicans are simply playing political games in order to make Obama a one-term President.  Nothing more, nothing less.  If you can't see that then you're nothing more than a puppet who listens to Rush Limbaugh and watches Fox News on a regular basis.  

What an incredibly irrational chain of thought.  A look into the mind of a sociopath.
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: 8manpick on March 08, 2019, 07:49:47 AM
Fun with headlines!

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Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: star seed 7 on March 08, 2019, 08:29:42 AM
Puppy  :D
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: LickNeckey on May 06, 2022, 02:26:24 PM
 :kstategrad:
Title: Re: Jobs
Post by: star seed 7 on May 06, 2022, 02:32:23 PM
Wrong thread, MODS!