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Offline SuperG

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« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2010, 06:06:33 PM »
Sorry, the American people see through that crap now.  Game over.

Obviously, you have a narrow view of who are "the American people". Game is certainly not over.

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« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2010, 06:08:48 PM »
Sorry, the American people see through that crap now.  Game over.

Obviously, you have a narrow view of who are "the American people". Game is certainly not over.
actually, the majority of americans do see through this administration's bull. all of the senate races are turning in favor of conservatives because the people don't want this crap.

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« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2010, 08:32:26 PM »
Sorry, the American people see through that crap now.  Game over.

Obviously, you have a narrow view of who are "the American people". Game is certainly not over.

According to Rasmussen, 41% of the American People Favor Obama’s Health Care Plan, 56% Oppose

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« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2010, 08:40:59 PM »
Sorry, the American people see through that crap now.  Game over.

Obviously, you have a narrow view of who are "the American people". Game is certainly not over.

Yes, it is over. If you love this Pres., take your pick of which outcome you want:






or


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If neither one of these fit your idea of what America should be, then pick this:





The choice is yours. Choose wisely.

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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2010, 08:51:02 PM »
Sorry, the American people see through that crap now.  Game over.

Obviously, you have a narrow view of who are "the American people". Game is certainly not over.

According to Rasmussen, 41% of the American People Favor Obama’s Health Care Plan, 56% Oppose

Considering most issues seem about 50/50 these days, that's pretty damning to this obamination of a bill

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« Reply #30 on: March 02, 2010, 09:49:30 PM »
Sorry, the American people see through that crap now.  Game over.

Obviously, you have a narrow view of who are "the American people". Game is certainly not over.

Yes, it is over. If you love this Pres., take your pick of which outcome you want:






or


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If neither one of these fit your idea of what America should be, then pick this:





The choice is yours. Choose wisely.

Sometimes I have to work to expose certain people as idiots.

TBL does this all by himself. We're very proud of you. :thumbsup:

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« Reply #31 on: March 02, 2010, 09:51:12 PM »
Sorry, the American people see through that crap now.  Game over.

Obviously, you have a narrow view of who are "the American people". Game is certainly not over.

Yes, it is over. If you love this Pres., take your pick of which outcome you want:






or


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If neither one of these fit your idea of what America should be, then pick this:





The choice is yours. Choose wisely.

Sometimes I have to work to expose certain people as idiots.

TBL does this all by himself. We're very proud of you. :thumbsup:

Please remind me of your comment, when you're saying, "But..but...but.......".

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« Reply #32 on: March 02, 2010, 10:00:25 PM »
Sorry, the American people see through that crap now.  Game over.

Obviously, you have a narrow view of who are "the American people". Game is certainly not over.

Yes, it is over. If you love this Pres., take your pick of which outcome you want:






or


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If neither one of these fit your idea of what America should be, then pick this:





The choice is yours. Choose wisely.

Sometimes I have to work to expose certain people as idiots.

TBL does this all by himself. We're very proud of you. :thumbsup:

Sorry, but couldn't let this go with just one reply. The last one hundred years (give or take) has seen the rise and fall of communism and fascism. Depending on which party you support, will show which direction it's gone. The only thing they have in common is they both started with Progressivism. Now that Progressivism has publicly reared it's ugly head, it's time you made your choice. What shall it be?

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« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2010, 10:22:47 PM »
Meh.  We're headed here before we go anywhere else:



Donks have us on the fast track there, Trunks would have us on the moderately fast track to the same destination.  The sooner the societal collapse, the sooner we can get on with restoring liberty. 

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« Reply #34 on: March 02, 2010, 10:32:47 PM »
Meh.  We're headed here before we go anywhere else:



Donks have us on the fast track there, Trunks would have us on the moderately fast track to the same destination.  The sooner the societal collapse, the sooner we can get on with restoring liberty. 

Societal collapse is what allowed fascism/communism to get kicked into high gear in their respective countries. You've forgotten your history, son.

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« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2010, 09:05:07 AM »
Societal collapse is what allowed fascism/communism to get kicked into high gear in their respective countries. You've forgotten your history, son.

You're apparently laboring under the false presumption that the collapse can be avoided.  As a viable governing philosophy the modern western social democracy model of socialism is as dead as all of the left's other satanist -isms (Marxism, communism, Leninism, fascism, Nazism, etc.).  The body is still running about the barnyard making gurgling sounds but he head is very clearly off that particular chicken.  The only interesting questions left are: How quickly does the collapse occur? And what comes next?

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« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2010, 03:14:21 PM »
Societal collapse is what allowed fascism/communism to get kicked into high gear in their respective countries. You've forgotten your history, son.

You're apparently laboring under the false presumption that the collapse can be avoided.  As a viable governing philosophy the modern western social democracy model of socialism is as dead as all of the left's other satanist -isms (Marxism, communism, Leninism, fascism, Nazism, etc.).  The body is still running about the barnyard making gurgling sounds but he head is very clearly off that particular chicken.  The only interesting questions left are: How quickly does the collapse occur? And what comes next?

The 'isms are most certainly not dead. Just look at the education protests. Any time that people feel it's a "human right" to have education, then the times are ripe. It's the same age range as what happened in socialist germany in the 30's. What, with th e "younger" generation stating that it's time for grandma to move over and let them have their health care, it's the same eugenics feeling.

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« Reply #37 on: March 08, 2010, 10:51:24 AM »
Societal collapse is what allowed fascism/communism to get kicked into high gear in their respective countries. You've forgotten your history, son.

You're apparently laboring under the false presumption that the collapse can be avoided.  As a viable governing philosophy the modern western social democracy model of socialism is as dead as all of the left's other satanist -isms (Marxism, communism, Leninism, fascism, Nazism, etc.).  The body is still running about the barnyard making gurgling sounds but he head is very clearly off that particular chicken.  The only interesting questions left are: How quickly does the collapse occur? And what comes next?

The 'isms are most certainly not dead. Just look at the education protests. Any time that people feel it's a "human right" to have education, then the times are ripe. It's the same age range as what happened in socialist germany in the 30's. What, with th e "younger" generation stating that it's time for grandma to move over and let them have their health care, it's the same eugenics feeling.

Apparently reading comprehension(-ism) is dead as well. 

What I said, and what has been most clearly demonstrated during the course of the last century, is that the satanist -isms are dead as viable governing philosophies.  Once upon a time there was a valid question about their viability but it has been sufficiently answered.  Of course there will always be those ignorant of history ready and willing to form a cadre of useful idiots in order to inflict history's failures on the present day.   

Interesting that you mention Eugenics even if the context of your comment leads me to believe that you may not actually know what it is.  What is produced, in effect, by social democracies is actually a form of reverse Eugenics: the most capable are forced to work ever-harder to support an ever-growing less capable entitled underclass.  Population demographics throughout the developed world bear out the fact that those most capable have less children while the entitled welfare recipient classes breed like crazy producing ever-more entitled children who are supported by ever-fewer children of the highly capable.

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« Reply #38 on: March 08, 2010, 12:28:29 PM »
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article7052606.ece

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DAMNING reports on the state of the National Health Service, suppressed by the government, reveal how patients’ needs have been neglected.

They diagnose a blind pursuit of political and managerial targets as the root cause of a string of hospital scandals that have cost thousands of lives.

The harsh verdict on the state of the NHS, after a spending splurge under Labour between 2000 and 2008, raises worrying questions about the future quality of the health service as budgets are squeezed.

One report, based on the advice of almost 200 top managers and doctors, says hospitals ignored basic hygiene to cram in patients to meet waiting-time targets.


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« Reply #39 on: March 08, 2010, 06:12:01 PM »
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article7052606.ece

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DAMNING reports on the state of the National Health Service, suppressed by the government, reveal how patients’ needs have been neglected.

They diagnose a blind pursuit of political and managerial targets as the root cause of a string of hospital scandals that have cost thousands of lives.

The harsh verdict on the state of the NHS, after a spending splurge under Labour between 2000 and 2008, raises worrying questions about the future quality of the health service as budgets are squeezed.

One report, based on the advice of almost 200 top managers and doctors, says hospitals ignored basic hygiene to cram in patients to meet waiting-time targets.


lol. just what we need.

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« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2010, 09:22:31 PM »
Societal collapse is what allowed fascism/communism to get kicked into high gear in their respective countries. You've forgotten your history, son.

You're apparently laboring under the false presumption that the collapse can be avoided.  As a viable governing philosophy the modern western social democracy model of socialism is as dead as all of the left's other satanist -isms (Marxism, communism, Leninism, fascism, Nazism, etc.).  The body is still running about the barnyard making gurgling sounds but he head is very clearly off that particular chicken.  The only interesting questions left are: How quickly does the collapse occur? And what comes next?

The 'isms are most certainly not dead. Just look at the education protests. Any time that people feel it's a "human right" to have education, then the times are ripe. It's the same age range as what happened in socialist germany in the 30's. What, with th e "younger" generation stating that it's time for grandma to move over and let them have their health care, it's the same eugenics feeling.

Apparently reading comprehension(-ism) is dead as well. 

What I said, and what has been most clearly demonstrated during the course of the last century, is that the satanist -isms are dead as viable governing philosophies.  Once upon a time there was a valid question about their viability but it has been sufficiently answered.  Of course there will always be those ignorant of history ready and willing to form a cadre of useful idiots in order to inflict history's failures on the present day.   

Interesting that you mention Eugenics even if the context of your comment leads me to believe that you may not actually know what it is.  What is produced, in effect, by social democracies is actually a form of reverse Eugenics: the most capable are forced to work ever-harder to support an ever-growing less capable entitled underclass.  Population demographics throughout the developed world bear out the fact that those most capable have less children while the entitled welfare recipient classes breed like crazy producing ever-more entitled children who are supported by ever-fewer children of the highly capable.

My use of the term, eugenics, refers to the type used by the Nazi's in the late 30's and early 40's. Specifically the idea that those that are "incurable" should be euthanized. Or as they said, "Life unworthy of life".

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« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2010, 12:59:22 AM »
Societal collapse is what allowed fascism/communism to get kicked into high gear in their respective countries. You've forgotten your history, son.

You're apparently laboring under the false presumption that the collapse can be avoided.  As a viable governing philosophy the modern western social democracy model of socialism is as dead as all of the left's other satanist -isms (Marxism, communism, Leninism, fascism, Nazism, etc.).  The body is still running about the barnyard making gurgling sounds but he head is very clearly off that particular chicken.  The only interesting questions left are: How quickly does the collapse occur? And what comes next?

The 'isms are most certainly not dead. Just look at the education protests. Any time that people feel it's a "human right" to have education, then the times are ripe. It's the same age range as what happened in socialist germany in the 30's. What, with th e "younger" generation stating that it's time for grandma to move over and let them have their health care, it's the same eugenics feeling.

Apparently reading comprehension(-ism) is dead as well. 

What I said, and what has been most clearly demonstrated during the course of the last century, is that the satanist -isms are dead as viable governing philosophies.  Once upon a time there was a valid question about their viability but it has been sufficiently answered.  Of course there will always be those ignorant of history ready and willing to form a cadre of useful idiots in order to inflict history's failures on the present day.   

Interesting that you mention Eugenics even if the context of your comment leads me to believe that you may not actually know what it is.  What is produced, in effect, by social democracies is actually a form of reverse Eugenics: the most capable are forced to work ever-harder to support an ever-growing less capable entitled underclass.  Population demographics throughout the developed world bear out the fact that those most capable have less children while the entitled welfare recipient classes breed like crazy producing ever-more entitled children who are supported by ever-fewer children of the highly capable.

My use of the term, eugenics, refers to the type used by the Nazi's in the late 30's and early 40's. Specifically the idea that those that are "incurable" should be euthanized. Or as they said, "Life unworthy of life".

You should really stick to snarfing donuts and being utterly unable to catch me when I blow through your jurisdiction in the low 3-digits.   :driving:

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« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2010, 04:39:46 PM »
Commitee on Ways and Means Report on Health Care

http://republicans.waysandmeans.house.gov/UploadedFiles/IRS_Power_Report.pdf  - 9 Pages

EXECUTIVE SUMMARY
***Highlights of New IRS Authority***
 IRS agents verify if you have “acceptable” health care
coverage
 IRS has the authority to fine you up to $2,250 or 2 percent
of your income (whichever is greater) for failure to prove
that you have purchased “minimum essential coverage”
 IRS can confiscate your tax refund
 IRS audits are likely to increase
 IRS will need up to $10 billion to administer the new health
care program this decade
 IRS may need to hire as many as 16,500 additional
auditors, agents and other employees to investigate and
collect billions in new taxes from Americans
 Nearly half of all these new individual mandate taxes will
be paid by Americans earning less than 300 percent of
poverty ($66,150 for a family of four)

***SPECIAL EXEMPTION***
Democrats prohibit the IRS from imposing these taxes and
penalties on illegal immigrants

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« Reply #44 on: March 21, 2010, 02:28:34 PM »
More Dead Babies

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« Reply #45 on: March 21, 2010, 09:51:29 PM »
Apparently it passed or something

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« Reply #46 on: March 21, 2010, 09:59:49 PM »
eff YES.    :ksu:

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« Reply #47 on: March 21, 2010, 10:04:29 PM »







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Willkommen zum sozialismus!

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« Reply #48 on: March 21, 2010, 10:11:54 PM »







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Willkommen zum sozialismus!

I don't really give a crap about this issue either way since I'm immortal but I'm kinda glad it passed so I can see the crazies start talking crap like this.

P.S. Socialism isn't Fascism or Communism durrrrrrr

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« Reply #49 on: March 21, 2010, 10:32:56 PM »







P.S. Socialism isn't Fascism or Communism durrrrrrr

au contrair.  The german form of fascism came in the form of....wait for it...national socialism.  It was a form of big government statism where people were beholden to the state and loyal to the nation.

This only contrasts fundamentally with soviet-style socialism in that it was international socialism where borders were to be taken down.

socialism, according to marx, was the transitional step from capitalism to full communism.  We're there.