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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #25 on: May 31, 2011, 02:58:00 PM »
Mpwo was a rough ridin' stud player at Olathe North.  He chose to run track at ASU but he certainly could have played D1 football and likely at a high level.  And I'm not saying that being fast means you will be good at football.  I'm saying that if you have a guy like Burns who is a good player, having great speed is a nice bonus. 

Considering he played two years at Arkansas State and wasn't even all-conference (Sun Belt!)  I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #26 on: May 31, 2011, 03:10:36 PM »
We played him in the 6A CG and he was, by far, the best player on the field.  We had Rashaad Jackson on our team and Mpwo was a much better player on both sides of the ball.  Not sure why he chose to not play football during his frosh and soph years @ ASU.  I'd have to say Eniak was the best HS player I ever played against.   (I'm probably forgetting someone but Mpwo was a stud.)

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #27 on: May 31, 2011, 03:47:36 PM »
Maybe Mpwo just wasn't motivated at Ark. St.

FWIW, Thomas Randolph was a big time sprinter and probably close to that list.  But he was not the best cornerback on his high school team.  He wasn't even close.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2011, 02:06:44 AM »
By that rationale a guy's 40 time is irrelevant, and so are all his numbers in the weightroom.  (No pads.)  Wonderlic- worthless.  (No pads.)  Hell the entire NFL combine is now worthless because they don't wear pads.  Did you call the NFL and tell them that yet?  I bet they'd be really thankful to you!

I would tend to agree that track results don't directly mean he'll be fast on the football field. A lot of HS kids don't even know how to correctly run a 40 or a 100. They do if they run track, of course. And even if they do know how, they won't be as proficient in it as they would be after 4/5 years doing it in college for college coaches.

We had guys in hs that could fly in track. Hell, they were even better athletes in basketball. But in football they rode the bench because they weren't strong enough to put those pads/helmet on and be as effective.

You act like the coach of our great football team can't do anything with speed. Sure, if we still had The Ron Prince Experiment running the show, this kid would never be anything more than a fast guy who looks good in pads, but Coach Snyder will turn him into a football player. Just you watch.

You represent everything I hate about cat fans.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2011, 02:09:00 AM »
Terrance Newman is laughing at you while reading stuff about the lockout.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #30 on: June 01, 2011, 11:24:55 AM »
I like following and reporting the track numbers because I love the sport and because it is just one measure of true long speed.  Key word there is "long" speed.  It's nothing more than a factual assessment of straightline speed and nothing more.

I'll also be the first to tell you it's relevance to football is minimal.  It is something you include in the evaluation but just one small piece of the overall puzzle.  If two kids believed to be close in their abilities on the football field then the track speed can be a deal breaker...all coaches want to work with kids that have it.

Truth be told even 40s are not overly important.  It is nice to have good 40 speed at corner or wide receiver because it demonstrates abilities on plays made down the field BUT 99% of the plays in football occur as a result from what happens in the first few yards which is why 10 and 20 yard splits are FAR more essential to football.  Mark Ingram ran a 4.6 at the combine but he's one of the quickest players in last year's draft.  He'll make a lot of the crucial 10-20 yard runs because he has that burst to do so.  I'll take a 4.6 corner with a 1.5 10 yard split over a 4.3 corner w/ a 1.6 yard split any day of the week provided there are enough differences on the field.  Believe it or not there are solid 4.6/4.7 corners all over the college game and a few in the NFL.

Athleticism, toughness, quickness, elusiveness, power...these are far better traits for a football player to possess than pure, straightline long speed.  But pure, straightline long speed is an added bonus and shouldn't be entirely ignored.

Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2011, 11:29:03 AM »
Aren't you the same Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) that thought Boss was good?

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #32 on: June 01, 2011, 11:34:42 AM »
Aren't you the same respect that thought Boss was good?

Oklahoma thought he was good, too...maybe you should send them emails or something?

Is that all you got?
Academics is a stupid word.

Academic schools are synonymous for being rich, powerful and exclusive, three things Kansas State is not.

So when people throw the word "academics" around, that's really what they are referencing.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #33 on: June 01, 2011, 11:55:01 AM »
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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #34 on: June 01, 2011, 12:40:13 PM »
Aren't you the same respect that thought Boss was good?

Oklahoma thought he was good, too...maybe you should send them emails or something?

Is that all you got?

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2011, 02:27:22 PM »
Sniff, sniff,. I smell roasting!  What are your opinion of his hips?   Are they manly?

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2011, 02:33:24 PM »
This is just a terrible rough ridin' thread. Like, just all around bad.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2011, 03:08:53 PM »
This is just a terrible rough ridin' thread. Like, just all around bad.

You should start your own Burns thread.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2011, 03:33:39 PM »
By that rationale a guy's 40 time is irrelevant, and so are all his numbers in the weightroom.  (No pads.)  Wonderlic- worthless.  (No pads.)  Hell the entire NFL combine is now worthless because they don't wear pads.  Did you call the NFL and tell them that yet?  I bet they'd be really thankful to you!

I would tend to agree that track results don't directly mean he'll be fast on the football field. A lot of HS kids don't even know how to correctly run a 40 or a 100. They do if they run track, of course. And even if they do know how, they won't be as proficient in it as they would be after 4/5 years doing it in college for college coaches.

We had guys in hs that could fly in track. Hell, they were even better athletes in basketball. But in football they rode the bench because they weren't strong enough to put those pads/helmet on and be as effective.

You act like the coach of our great football team can't do anything with speed. Sure, if we still had The Ron Prince Experiment running the show, this kid would never be anything more than a fast guy who looks good in pads, but Coach Snyder will turn him into a football player. Just you watch.

You represent everything I hate about cat fans.

You hate us because we are good, squawk. 59-7
GET WELL SOON RANDY!


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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2011, 03:34:17 PM »
This is just a terrible rough ridin' thread. Like, just all around bad.

You should start your own Burns thread.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #40 on: June 01, 2011, 05:30:34 PM »
By that rationale a guy's 40 time is irrelevant, and so are all his numbers in the weightroom.  (No pads.)  Wonderlic- worthless.  (No pads.)  Hell the entire NFL combine is now worthless because they don't wear pads.  Did you call the NFL and tell them that yet?  I bet they'd be really thankful to you!

I would tend to agree that track results don't directly mean he'll be fast on the football field. A lot of HS kids don't even know how to correctly run a 40 or a 100. They do if they run track, of course. And even if they do know how, they won't be as proficient in it as they would be after 4/5 years doing it in college for college coaches.

We had guys in hs that could fly in track. Hell, they were even better athletes in basketball. But in football they rode the bench because they weren't strong enough to put those pads/helmet on and be as effective.

You act like the coach of our great football team can't do anything with speed. Sure, if we still had The Ron Prince Experiment running the show, this kid would never be anything more than a fast guy who looks good in pads, but Coach Snyder will turn him into a football player. Just you watch.

You represent everything I hate about cat fans.

You hate us because we are good, squawk. 59-7

 :facepalm:

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #41 on: June 01, 2011, 05:31:37 PM »
Bet Burns would be slow in


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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #42 on: June 01, 2011, 06:19:10 PM »
By that rationale a guy's 40 time is irrelevant, and so are all his numbers in the weightroom.  (No pads.)  Wonderlic- worthless.  (No pads.)  Hell the entire NFL combine is now worthless because they don't wear pads.  Did you call the NFL and tell them that yet?  I bet they'd be really thankful to you!

I would tend to agree that track results don't directly mean he'll be fast on the football field. A lot of HS kids don't even know how to correctly run a 40 or a 100. They do if they run track, of course. And even if they do know how, they won't be as proficient in it as they would be after 4/5 years doing it in college for college coaches.

We had guys in hs that could fly in track. Hell, they were even better athletes in basketball. But in football they rode the bench because they weren't strong enough to put those pads/helmet on and be as effective.

You act like the coach of our great football team can't do anything with speed. Sure, if we still had The Ron Prince Experiment running the show, this kid would never be anything more than a fast guy who looks good in pads, but Coach Snyder will turn him into a football player. Just you watch.

You represent everything I hate about cat fans.

You hate us because we are good, squawk. 59-7

 :facepalm:

And I rest my case. Game, set, match, squawk.
GET WELL SOON RANDY!


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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #43 on: June 02, 2011, 12:18:23 AM »
By that rationale a guy's 40 time is irrelevant, and so are all his numbers in the weightroom.  (No pads.)  Wonderlic- worthless.  (No pads.)  Hell the entire NFL combine is now worthless because they don't wear pads.  Did you call the NFL and tell them that yet?  I bet they'd be really thankful to you!

I would tend to agree that track results don't directly mean he'll be fast on the football field. A lot of HS kids don't even know how to correctly run a 40 or a 100. They do if they run track, of course. And even if they do know how, they won't be as proficient in it as they would be after 4/5 years doing it in college for college coaches.

We had guys in hs that could fly in track. Hell, they were even better athletes in basketball. But in football they rode the bench because they weren't strong enough to put those pads/helmet on and be as effective.

You act like the coach of our great football team can't do anything with speed. Sure, if we still had The Ron Prince Experiment running the show, this kid would never be anything more than a fast guy who looks good in pads, but Coach Snyder will turn him into a football player. Just you watch.

You represent everything I hate about cat fans.

You hate us because we are good, squawk. 59-7

 :facepalm:

And I rest my case. Game, set, match, squawk.

 :dubious: Yeah I was at 59-7. Sitting in the k-state section. Because I'm a k-state fan. I'm saying you're an embarrassment to us all.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #44 on: June 06, 2011, 04:38:57 PM »
By that rationale a guy's 40 time is irrelevant, and so are all his numbers in the weightroom.  (No pads.)  Wonderlic- worthless.  (No pads.)  Hell the entire NFL combine is now worthless because they don't wear pads.  Did you call the NFL and tell them that yet?  I bet they'd be really thankful to you!

I would tend to agree that track results don't directly mean he'll be fast on the football field. A lot of HS kids don't even know how to correctly run a 40 or a 100. They do if they run track, of course. And even if they do know how, they won't be as proficient in it as they would be after 4/5 years doing it in college for college coaches.

We had guys in hs that could fly in track. Hell, they were even better athletes in basketball. But in football they rode the bench because they weren't strong enough to put those pads/helmet on and be as effective.

You act like the coach of our great football team can't do anything with speed. Sure, if we still had The Ron Prince Experiment running the show, this kid would never be anything more than a fast guy who looks good in pads, but Coach Snyder will turn him into a football player. Just you watch.

You represent everything I hate about cat fans.

You hate us because we are good, squawk. 59-7

 :facepalm:

And I rest my case. Game, set, match, squawk.

 :dubious: Yeah I was at 59-7. Sitting in the k-state section. Because I'm a k-state fan. I'm saying you're an embarrassment to us all.

I'm sure you left in shame at halftime.
GET WELL SOON RANDY!