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Morgan Burns
« on: May 28, 2011, 01:13:17 PM »
Just won 100m with a 10.66. Rainy day. Not great for spinters.


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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2011, 01:57:06 PM »
He's a good dude. 

Fast, too. So, that's a plus. 

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2011, 02:02:37 PM »
He's a good dude. 

Fast, too. So, that's a plus. 

I completely disagree.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 02:01:53 AM »
any time comparos to other sprinter DBs from KS that became Cats?  Like with the initials TN.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 02:20:38 AM »
Pretty sure the all-class record in KS is like 10.26.  (Ponds from SE?)  So, somewhere in between would be my guess.  Newms was pretty damn raw in HS.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2011, 02:27:00 AM »
My bad, Ponds ran a 10.36.  FYI, the kids that won the 6A title ran a 10.61 this yr.  (He's from Olathe North.  Wonder is he can play football?)

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2011, 03:25:27 AM »
Tnew was timed sub 10.3 often. I'm about 99 percent sure Jordy ran 10.62 while still at riley btw.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2011, 11:35:28 AM »
Newman didn't run any legit 10.3 times in high school.  He ran a 10.9 at state to win the 100 as a senior.  Both Burns and Jordy posted faster times at state.

Alot of these 10.3's you might hear about in high school are hand timed and wind-aided.  Burns has run those, too.  It's only when you have a fully automated timing device and wind-reading gauges do you find out the true speed. 

Burns time was impressive given the conditions.  It was a cool and muggy day.  To put that into perspective, the kid in 5A is a true 10.4 sprinter but he could only manage a 10.60.
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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2011, 11:50:49 AM »
I believe the state record for the boys 100m dash is held by Maurice Greene from KC Schlagle at 10.29 seconds(1992).  It was the fastest high school time in the nation that year and yes, it's the same Greene who held the world's record for a short while(9.79 seconds).

His older brother(Earnest) ran for K-State track in the late 80s early 90s.  He was also a fast S.O.B., but not as fast as his younger brother. 

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2011, 12:23:49 PM »
I believe the state record for the boys 100m dash is held by Maurice Greene from KC Schlagle at 10.29 seconds(1992).  It was the fastest high school time in the nation that year and yes, it's the same Greene who held the world's record for a short while(9.79 seconds).

His older brother(Earnest) ran for K-State track in the late 80s early 90s.  He was also a fast S.O.B., but not as fast as his younger brother. 

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2011, 12:51:44 PM »
So anyway-  Mario Ponds holds the KSHSAA record @ 10.36.  This 2pacSam fellow needs to check his sources.  Boom.  Roasted x2.

http://www.kshsaa.org/Public/Track/Records.cfm

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2011, 01:09:44 PM »
great hip movement, large nostrils means a large V02 max, this kid is gonna be a STUD  :thumbs:

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2011, 01:16:54 PM »
Do we really need a half-dozen Burns threads?

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2011, 01:54:08 PM »
So anyway-  Mario Ponds holds the KSHSAA record @ 10.36.  This 2pacSam fellow needs to check his sources.  Boom.  Roasted x2.

http://www.kshsaa.org/Public/Track/Records.cfm

Not disputing the source, but Ponds' time is the record for the KSHSAA Track & Field Meet State Championships, not the overall state record.  So you're wrong, Ponds does not own the overall fastest time in Kansas high school history, just the state meet record.  The kid from Valley Center(Joe Fisher) ran the second fastest time in Kansas high school history this year with a 10.35.  You need to re-read my post.  Maurice's record time was set at another meet, i.e., league invitational, district or regional meet. 

There's a chance I could be wrong, but Google's not showing any records.  Then again Google isn't the end all and be all.  That is why I said I believe rather that present my statement as an undeniable fact.  I'll keep checking and if I'm right, I'll be sure to post it. 

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2011, 01:58:54 PM »
bad news fellas, just checked my sources and no one gives a crap about track and field

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2011, 02:06:07 PM »
Couple weeks ago, I totally ran a 3.7.  Yeah, it's not the official KSHSAA record because it was at some other event (at a KS high school) and yeah, it doesn't show up on Google but don't worry about that guys cause it totally happened, trust me.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2011, 01:55:51 AM »
Newman didn't run any legit 10.3 times in high school.  He ran a 10.9 at state to win the 100 as a senior.  Both Burns and Jordy posted faster times at state.

Alot of these 10.3's you might hear about in high school are hand timed and wind-aided.  Burns has run those, too.  It's only when you have a fully automated timing device and wind-reading gauges do you find out the true speed. 

Burns time was impressive given the conditions.  It was a cool and muggy day.  To put that into perspective, the kid in 5A is a true 10.4 sprinter but he could only manage a 10.60.

Didn't mean to intend Newman in HS

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2011, 10:22:31 AM »
bad news fellas, just checked my sources and no one gives a crap about track and field

Unless they're running all of these events in pads.  Apples to apples and all.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2011, 01:50:36 PM »
By that rationale a guy's 40 time is irrelevant, and so are all his numbers in the weightroom.  (No pads.)  Wonderlic- worthless.  (No pads.)  Hell the entire NFL combine is now worthless because they don't wear pads.  Did you call the NFL and tell them that yet?  I bet they'd be really thankful to you!

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2011, 03:31:43 PM »

Burns won the 200 also.  I believe he set the meet record with a 21.58

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2011, 12:40:42 PM »
By that rationale a guy's 40 time is irrelevant, and so are all his numbers in the weightroom.  (No pads.)  Wonderlic- worthless.  (No pads.)  Hell the entire NFL combine is now worthless because they don't wear pads.  Did you call the NFL and tell them that yet?  I bet they'd be really thankful to you!

I would tend to agree that track results don't directly mean he'll be fast on the football field. A lot of HS kids don't even know how to correctly run a 40 or a 100. They do if they run track, of course. And even if they do know how, they won't be as proficient in it as they would be after 4/5 years doing it in college for college coaches.

We had guys in hs that could fly in track. Hell, they were even better athletes in basketball. But in football they rode the bench because they weren't strong enough to put those pads/helmet on and be as effective.

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2011, 02:07:53 PM »
By that rationale a guy's 40 time is irrelevant, and so are all his numbers in the weightroom.  (No pads.)  Wonderlic- worthless.  (No pads.)  Hell the entire NFL combine is now worthless because they don't wear pads.  Did you call the NFL and tell them that yet?  I bet they'd be really thankful to you!

I would tend to agree that track results don't directly mean he'll be fast on the football field. A lot of HS kids don't even know how to correctly run a 40 or a 100. They do if they run track, of course. And even if they do know how, they won't be as proficient in it as they would be after 4/5 years doing it in college for college coaches.

We had guys in hs that could fly in track. Hell, they were even better athletes in basketball. But in football they rode the bench because they weren't strong enough to put those pads/helmet on and be as effective.

You act like the coach of our great football team can't do anything with speed. Sure, if we still had The Ron Prince Experiment running the show, this kid would never be anything more than a fast guy who looks good in pads, but Coach Snyder will turn him into a football player. Just you watch.
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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #23 on: May 31, 2011, 02:23:37 PM »
http://030b577.netsolhost.com/cik/docs/ks_hs_all_time_best.pdf

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42 kids on that list... and zero really good Division I football players.   :dubious:

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Re: Morgan Burns
« Reply #24 on: May 31, 2011, 02:27:49 PM »
Mpwo was a rough ridin' stud player at Olathe North.  He chose to run track at ASU but he certainly could have played D1 football and likely at a high level.  And I'm not saying that being fast means you will be good at football.  I'm saying that if you have a guy like Burns who is a good player, having great speed is a nice bonus.