HBBIQ Topic Re: Dom

[kougar24]

Mechanics are formed in middle school, you don't jack with them at this level.

This is not true.

if it were true there'd be about 2 good shooters on the planet.

True.  Coaches who coach middle school kids, on average, are some of the worst basketball minds imaginable.

I agree, which is why there are so many players will terrible/weird mechanics out there, by traditional standards.

[CNS]

Mechanics are formed in middle school, you don't jack with them at this level.

This is not true.

Fred Brown had terrible mechanics. Should we have fixed them?

Not only should we have, but Frank actually mentioned trying to change it during Fred's Frosh year.

[michigancat]

Mechanics are formed in middle school, you don't jack with them at this level.

This is not true.

if it were true there'd be about 2 good shooters on the planet.

True.  Coaches who coach middle school kids, on average, are some of the worst basketball minds imaginable.

I agree, which is why there are so many players will terrible/weird mechanics out there, by traditional standards.

You don't see many in college.  You really don't.  The Fred Browns of the world are few and far between.

[kougar24]

Mechanics are formed in middle school, you don't jack with them at this level.

This is not true.

if it were true there'd be about 2 good shooters on the planet.

True.  Coaches who coach middle school kids, on average, are some of the worst basketball minds imaginable.

I agree, which is why there are so many players will terrible/weird mechanics out there, by traditional standards.

You don't see many in college.  You really don't.  The Fred Browns of the world are few and far between.

Eh, you could be right; I guess it depends on how strict your definition of good form is.

[pissclams]

rusty's definition of 'good form' is very strict, some might say it's the strictest out there.

[kougar24]

rusty's definition of 'good form' is very strict, some might say it's the strictest out there.

I could see this. Rus' isn't very flexible on any of his life rules. Yoga before 6AM, every day. JJ Reddick-like form, every shot. Etc.

[SleepFighter]

rusty's definition of 'good form' is very strict, some might say it's the strictest out there.

Eh, you could be right;  I guess it depends on how strict your definition of some is.

[Cire]

Is dom's form really that bad? 

Also, it opens our post up a ton.  Dom is one of our better post feeders and his guy now has to play 2 or 3 steps closer to dom/ further from helping out on the post guy.

[michigancat]

Kougs didn't say there aren't many with "good" form, he said there were a lot w/ "miserable/weird" form, which simply isn't true.

[CNS]

Is dom's form really that bad? 

Also, it opens our post up a ton.  Dom is one of our better post feeders and his guy now has to play 2 or 3 steps closer to dom/ further from helping out on the post guy.

It's not that his form is horrible, but his overall motion is very awkward.  It also varies.  Sometimes very slow(overly so) and deliberate, other times very quick and rushed looking. 

I can't say that I have seen him take a shot that is longer than 15' and thought that it looked smooth.  Not saying he isn't effective.  But his long ball is ugly.

I do love that he is hitting from outside.  It's been said, but this will only help our post game and Dom's slashing.  It will be easier for him to get around his guy if his guy doesn't have 4 or 5 feet to read him and then react.  This could improve the rate that he actually finishes the ball on this drives, rather than just getting to the line.

As long as his shooting proves to be more than just a short lived streak, it will only improve our offense and create more minutes for Dom.

[Joker]

Lots of HBBIQ being displayed here.  Nice work fellas.

[felix rex]

Just force yourself to remember that 0-13 debacle in the second round against Wisconsin, with the guy guarding Dom able to keep one foot in the paint at all times. That's huge. But seriously, this will hurt us in the long run.

[waldo]

Dom is a shooting machine in warm ups...I focused on him during warm ups for the CU game and I swear I didn't seem him miss a 3 pointer...it was amazing (this was before he actually made a shot during a real game).  It's not his mechanics, it's his melon.  His shot is a little slow, but who cares?  He's not going to jack up 10 3's a night with a defender draped all over him.  He needs to hit them when he gets open (when his defender challenges him to shoot hit)...he'll have all the time he needs to get it off.  His ability to keep his defender honest is a HUGE positive for our offense.

[yosh]

It also varies.  Sometimes very slow(overly so) and deliberate, other times very quick and rushed looking. 

This is a bigger issue than simply having an ugly form, and could be a side effect of lack of cofindence.  If he's second guessing himself when he takes shots,  it'll show up in this manner.  Honestly, I've not noticed this, but it's not like there is a large sample size to look at.  It'll be interesting to see if some confidence leads to a consistent stroke.  How pretty it is doesn't concern me as much as how consistent it looks (and obviously how often it goes in)

[kso_FAN]

Most of you weren't around during the elite "Rusty's shooting form critiques" from back in the day.  Good times.

[kougar24]

Most of you weren't around during the elite "Rusty's shooting form critiques" from back in the day.  Good times.

I've been here/there literally the whole time you have.

And mich, I still contend there are many shooters out there with bad form. Prove me wrong.

[michigancat]

Most of you weren't around during the elite "Rusty's shooting form critiques" from back in the day.  Good times.

I've been here/there literally the whole time you have.

And mich, I still contend there are many shooters out there with bad form. Prove me wrong.

Name 12 w/ "bad form" in the Big 12.

[sys]

Most of you weren't around during the elite "Rusty's shooting form critiques" from back in the day.  Good times.

I've been here/there literally the whole time you have.

And mich, I still contend there are many shooters out there with bad form. Prove me wrong.

Name 12 w/ "bad form" in the Big 12.

.... lance harris....

[sonofdaxjones]

Plus, now he can start going around people who have to come out on him.

[chum1]

If I was his shooting coach, the first thing I'd do would be to teach him how to slap people in the face with his follow through like Kobe Bryant.  I'd also advise him to grow his fingernails out a bit and cut them into dagger-like shapes.

[kougar24]

Most of you weren't around during the elite "Rusty's shooting form critiques" from back in the day.  Good times.

I've been here/there literally the whole time you have.

And mich, I still contend there are many shooters out there with bad form. Prove me wrong.

Name 12 w/ "bad form" in the Big 12.

I don't write them down when I see them, but give me some time and I'll find you 12. I'll give you off the top of my head: Dunn, Aldrich, most Mizzou players not named Kim English, Denis Clemente, Bryan Davis.

[yoga-like_abana]

Why is it Leftys always seem to have the sweetest stroke whether its bball or baseball.

[michigancat]

Most of you weren't around during the elite "Rusty's shooting form critiques" from back in the day.  Good times.

I've been here/there literally the whole time you have.

And mich, I still contend there are many shooters out there with bad form. Prove me wrong.

Name 12 w/ "bad form" in the Big 12.

I don't write them down when I see them, but give me some time and I'll find you 12. I'll give you off the top of my head: Dunn, Aldrich, most Mizzou players not named Kim English, Denis Clemente, Bryan Davis.

You're wrong about Dunn and Clemente.  They don't get much elevation, but their form isn't "miserable/weird".  Never seen Bryan Davis shoot anything beyond 3 ft, so can't comment.

[pissclams]

i think Cole has great form for the position he plays, they aren't supposed to be shooting jumpers.

[kougar24]

Most of you weren't around during the elite "Rusty's shooting form critiques" from back in the day.  Good times.

I've been here/there literally the whole time you have.

And mich, I still contend there are many shooters out there with bad form. Prove me wrong.

Name 12 w/ "bad form" in the Big 12.

I don't write them down when I see them, but give me some time and I'll find you 12. I'll give you off the top of my head: Dunn, Aldrich, most Mizzou players not named Kim English, Denis Clemente, Bryan Davis.

You're wrong about Dunn and Clemente.  They don't get much elevation, but their form isn't "miserable/weird".  Never seen Bryan Davis shoot anything beyond 3 ft, so can't comment.

You didn't ask for "miserable/weird," you asked for "bad form." A set shot (Clems and Dunn) is bad form, technically speaking.

As for Aldrich and Davis, watch their FTs.