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« Reply #25 on: April 04, 2011, 06:58:24 PM »
What I think most likely happened:

The terrarists were planning an attack on the US for a number of years. The powers that be knew about this plan, and there is plenty of evidence to suggest this. So, they let it happen with no attempt to stop it, and there is A TON of evidence to support this. Whether or not the government threw in a false flag here and there that day (such as building 7, Pentagon, etc) is debatable..but aside the point.

They let 9/11 happen in order to justify an occupation in the middle east, which to this day has us chasing a bunch of shepherds in the mountains and falsely labeling the vast majority of them as "terrorists  :runaway:"

Now we have oil companies, security contractors, military contractors etc making BANK from our occupation there. I mean JFC we've been there for a decade, these people are laughing all the way to the bank.

Not to mention we're paying our soldiers 15K a year to guard truck drivers for these companies that make 100K + a year. I mean, come on...

If you somehow think this is far fetched, than you haven't looked at the evidence and the facts and have a very closed mind.

 

Bush - Cheney were simply incredible. Smartest men alive; We were lucky to have them for 8 years.

Also, how did they convince a Nobel Peace Prize winner to continue what they started and go even further and start another war for their cronies? Genius.

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« Reply #26 on: April 04, 2011, 07:12:01 PM »
What I think most likely happened:

The terrarists were planning an attack on the US for a number of years. The powers that be knew about this plan, and there is plenty of evidence to suggest this. So, they let it happen with no attempt to stop it, and there is A TON of evidence to support this. Whether or not the government threw in a false flag here and there that day (such as building 7, Pentagon, etc) is debatable..but aside the point.

They let 9/11 happen in order to justify an occupation in the middle east, which to this day has us chasing a bunch of shepherds in the mountains and falsely labeling the vast majority of them as "terrorists  :runaway:"

Now we have oil companies, security contractors, military contractors etc making BANK from our occupation there. I mean JFC we've been there for a decade, these people are laughing all the way to the bank.

Not to mention we're paying our soldiers 15K a year to guard truck drivers for these companies that make 100K + a year. I mean, come on...

If you somehow think this is far fetched, than you haven't looked at the evidence and the facts and have a very closed mind.

 

Bush - Cheney were simply incredible. Smartest men alive; We were lucky to have them for 8 years.

Also, how did they convince a Nobel Peace Prize winner to continue what they started and go even further and start another war for their cronies? Genius.

I don't know how they did it, but it's happened. The powers that be win again.

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« Reply #27 on: April 04, 2011, 09:11:24 PM »
Bush - Cheney were simply incredible. Smartest men alive; We were lucky to have them for 8 years.

c'mon Cheney maybe but nobody would vote for his transparent skin and shakey heart

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« Reply #28 on: April 04, 2011, 09:51:02 PM »
I heard from one of my connected government sources that a joint venture between Haliburton and Northrup-Grumman won a super top-secret bid to manufacture "green" weapons of mass destruction.  The weapons will be made from 100% biodegradable material, and use only renewable energy sources for propulsion and explosion.  Part of the bid process involved guaranteeing at least 50% of the sub work to illegal aliens and minority owned businesses all of which are union organized.

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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2011, 09:55:17 PM »
I just want to clarify something here. I only laugh halfway to the bank. I skip/whistle the other half. There is a TON of evidence to confirm this.
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« Reply #30 on: April 04, 2011, 10:07:24 PM »
I just want to clarify something here. I only laugh halfway to the bank. I skip/whistle the other half. There is a TON of evidence to confirm this.
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« Reply #31 on: April 04, 2011, 10:17:51 PM »
I just want to clarify something here. I only laugh halfway to the bank. I skip/whistle the other half. There is a TON of evidence to confirm this.

Wait, are you saying that what Fake Sugar Dick said is actually true? If so,  :lol:

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« Reply #32 on: April 05, 2011, 12:40:26 AM »
yeah these guys are rough ridin' dumbasses.  I think its funny when architects start talking about thermo dynamics and structural analysis.  

please note that the fire fighters evac'd because WTC 7 was going to collapse before the "controlled demo"
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

There were no fire fighters in WTC 7.

But it's OK. Follow the leader...do what you're told....believe everything they tell you

ummm.....you really have no idea wtf you are talking about.  There are multiple recordings of the battalion commanders pulling guys from around the area because they feared for the structural stability of a building. 
or this

I'm sure the guys walking around in black coats with yellow letters that say FDNY are just sheeple who were planted there


Please note that WTC7 was allowed to burn uncontrolled for 7 hours.  Please also note that part of the building's lower floors went around a con-edison substation.  So WHEN the debris hit from WTC1 that might cause a bit of an issue to the structural stability .





I'll believe the actual structural engineers who have commented on 9/11 rather then dentists and architects speaking out of place. 
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« Reply #33 on: April 05, 2011, 08:08:10 AM »
yeah these guys are rough ridin' dumbasses.  I think its funny when architects start talking about thermo dynamics and structural analysis.  

please note that the fire fighters evac'd because WTC 7 was going to collapse before the "controlled demo"
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

There were no fire fighters in WTC 7.

But it's OK. Follow the leader...do what you're told....believe everything they tell you

ummm.....you really have no idea wtf you are talking about.  There are multiple recordings of the battalion commanders pulling guys from around the area because they feared for the structural stability of a building.  
or this

I'm sure the guys walking around in black coats with yellow letters that say FDNY are just sheeple who were planted there


Please note that WTC7 was allowed to burn uncontrolled for 7 hours.  Please also note that part of the building's lower floors went around a con-edison substation.  So WHEN the debris hit from WTC1 that might cause a bit of an issue to the structural stability .





I'll believe the actual structural engineers who have commented on 9/11 rather then dentists and architects speaking out of place.  

I see a lot of evidence from those vids that there were firefighters in building 7.  :dubious:

Why did the British news people report it's collapse 20 minutes before it happened? :flush:
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« Reply #34 on: April 05, 2011, 09:58:02 AM »
yeah these guys are rough ridin' dumbasses.  I think its funny when architects start talking about thermo dynamics and structural analysis.  

please note that the fire fighters evac'd because WTC 7 was going to collapse before the "controlled demo"
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

There were no fire fighters in WTC 7.

But it's OK. Follow the leader...do what you're told....believe everything they tell you

ummm.....you really have no idea wtf you are talking about.  There are multiple recordings of the battalion commanders pulling guys from around the area because they feared for the structural stability of a building.  
or this

I'm sure the guys walking around in black coats with yellow letters that say FDNY are just sheeple who were planted there


Please note that WTC7 was allowed to burn uncontrolled for 7 hours.  Please also note that part of the building's lower floors went around a con-edison substation.  So WHEN the debris hit from WTC1 that might cause a bit of an issue to the structural stability .





I'll believe the actual structural engineers who have commented on 9/11 rather then dentists and architects speaking out of place.  

I see a lot of evidence from those vids that there were firefighters in building 7.  :dubious:

Why did the British news people report it's collapse 20 minutes before it happened? :flush:

Do you have a link for this?

EDIT: Non-truther link, like CNN, etc.
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« Reply #35 on: April 05, 2011, 10:45:52 AM »
the biggest plothole to pike's theories are there people (especially people in government) can't keep secrets. 

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« Reply #36 on: April 05, 2011, 10:59:30 AM »
yeah these guys are rough ridin' dumbasses.  I think its funny when architects start talking about thermo dynamics and structural analysis.  

please note that the fire fighters evac'd because WTC 7 was going to collapse before the "controlled demo"
http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

There were no fire fighters in WTC 7.

But it's OK. Follow the leader...do what you're told....believe everything they tell you

ummm.....you really have no idea wtf you are talking about.  There are multiple recordings of the battalion commanders pulling guys from around the area because they feared for the structural stability of a building.  
or this

I'm sure the guys walking around in black coats with yellow letters that say FDNY are just sheeple who were planted there


Please note that WTC7 was allowed to burn uncontrolled for 7 hours.  Please also note that part of the building's lower floors went around a con-edison substation.  So WHEN the debris hit from WTC1 that might cause a bit of an issue to the structural stability .





I'll believe the actual structural engineers who have commented on 9/11 rather then dentists and architects speaking out of place.  

I see a lot of evidence from those vids that there were firefighters in building 7.  :dubious:

Why did the British news people report it's collapse 20 minutes before it happened? :flush:
no bullshit.  I'm seriously lost on what the hell you are talking about with the fire fighters at this point. 
WTC7 was abandoned (so they could do search and recovery at WTC 1&2) by the fire fighters and allowed to burn for 7 hrs.  The fire fighters (as noted on video) knew it was going to come down hours before it did. 
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« Reply #37 on: April 05, 2011, 11:01:07 AM »
the biggest plothole to pike's theories are there people (especially people in government) can't keep secrets. 

you would think that Manning would have burned the truther docs to his Lady Gaga mix tape.
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« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2011, 11:50:38 AM »
What I think most likely happened:

The terrarists were planning an attack on the US for a number of years. The powers that be knew about this plan, and there is plenty of evidence to suggest this. So, they let it happen with no attempt to stop it, and there is A TON of evidence to support this. Whether or not the government threw in a false flag here and there that day (such as building 7, Pentagon, etc) is debatable..but aside the point.

They let 9/11 happen in order to justify an occupation in the middle east, which to this day has us chasing a bunch of shepherds in the mountains and falsely labeling the vast majority of them as "terrorists  :runaway:"

Now we have oil companies, security contractors, military contractors etc making BANK from our occupation there. I mean JFC we've been there for a decade, these people are laughing all the way to the bank.

Not to mention we're paying our soldiers 15K a year to guard truck drivers for these companies that make 100K + a year. I mean, come on...

If you somehow think this is far fetched, than you haven't looked at the evidence and the facts and have a very closed mind.

 

They didn't "need" 9/11 for an invasion of Iraq in March of 03'... so you are basically saying "they" allowed 3,000 citizens to be slaughtered for cacty ass Afghanistan? Really?



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« Reply #39 on: April 05, 2011, 12:59:46 PM »
Edn I thought your point was that "pull it" was to clear the fire fighters out of building 7? Now you're saying there were none in there too? But again if u read what I said above you could clealy see that I said that it more than likely collapsed cause of fire.

And ksu187...yes really. Why would NORAD go 0 for 4 on hijackings when they've never missed one ever? They even bothered to scramble fighter jets hundreds of miles away where they could be of no use. Sounds fishy to me

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« Reply #40 on: April 05, 2011, 01:07:14 PM »
And of course they didn't need 9-11 to go into Iraq..they just needed to make up a bunch of 'wmd' stuff and the 'terrarist' label and BAM the whole nation is brain washed

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« Reply #41 on: April 05, 2011, 01:16:52 PM »
And of course they didn't need 9-11 to go into Iraq..they just needed to make up a bunch of 'wmd' stuff and the 'terrarist' label and BAM the whole nation is brain washed

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« Reply #42 on: April 05, 2011, 01:51:17 PM »
the biggest plothole to pike's theories are there people (especially people in government) can't keep secrets. 

you would think that Manning would have burned the truther docs to his Lady Gaga mix tape.


i literally have no idea what that posts means.

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« Reply #43 on: April 05, 2011, 02:08:58 PM »
Edn I thought your point was that "pull it" was to clear the fire fighters out of building 7? Now you're saying there were none in there too? But again if u read what I said above you could clealy see that I said that it more than likely collapsed cause of fire.

And ksu187...yes really. Why would NORAD go 0 for 4 on hijackings when they've never missed one ever? They even bothered to scramble fighter jets hundreds of miles away where they could be of no use. Sounds fishy to me

I asked you about the supposed motive for the conspiracy.  Hijacking and scrambling jets have nothing to do with the motive, they are just part of your speculation on the actual event itself. 

You are claiming 9/11 happened so our government/soldiers could go over to Afghanistan:jerk:

What is the benefit for the "powers that be" of making up a scheme which allows thousands to be slaughtered as an excuse for invading a horrible country? 

And even if they wanted to invade Afghanistan, why would they go through all the trouble of a conspiracy/coverup when they could just easily make up some stuff like they did in Iraq?

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« Reply #44 on: April 05, 2011, 02:52:19 PM »
the biggest plothole to pike's theories are there people (especially people in government) can't keep secrets. 

you would think that Manning would have burned the truther docs to his Lady Gaga mix tape.


i literally have no idea what that posts means.

Bradley Manning was the guy who leaked all the docs to wiki leaks.  He did it by burning the docs to a cd he labeled as a Lady Gaga cd.  I was agreeing with you that govs can't keep secrets, the either leak, given away on a lost laptop or are disclosed with FOIA.
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« Reply #45 on: April 05, 2011, 05:23:55 PM »
PIKE

if it makes you feel better i do firmly believe that Iraq was simply an oil grab by Bush cronies with a nice military industrial complex kickback for Cheney's peeps

however i am pretty skeptical of the 9-11 conspiracy angles *

* actually i think the whole notion is batcac crazy

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« Reply #46 on: April 05, 2011, 07:11:23 PM »
Edn I thought your point was that "pull it" was to clear the fire fighters out of building 7? Now you're saying there were none in there too? But again if u read what I said above you could clealy see that I said that it more than likely collapsed cause of fire.

And ksu187...yes really. Why would NORAD go 0 for 4 on hijackings when they've never missed one ever? They even bothered to scramble fighter jets hundreds of miles away where they could be of no use. Sounds fishy to me

I asked you about the supposed motive for the conspiracy.  Hijacking and scrambling jets have nothing to do with the motive, they are just part of your speculation on the actual event itself. 

You are claiming 9/11 happened so our government/soldiers could go over to Afghanistan:jerk:

What is the benefit for the "powers that be" of making up a scheme which allows thousands to be slaughtered as an excuse for invading a horrible country? 

And even if they wanted to invade Afghanistan, why would they go through all the trouble of a conspiracy/coverup when they could just easily make up some stuff like they did in Iraq?

 :ck:

Oil and money, dude

PIKE

if it makes you feel better i do firmly believe that Iraq was simply an oil grab by Bush cronies with a nice military industrial complex kickback for Cheney's peeps

however i am pretty skeptical of the 9-11 conspiracy angles *

* actually i think the whole notion is batcac crazy

So you don't think the two could be related? Like, at all?

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« Reply #47 on: April 05, 2011, 10:22:31 PM »
Guys, Iraq had nothing to do with oil or 9/11.

It is as simple as one man's revenge upon another.

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« Reply #48 on: April 05, 2011, 11:31:51 PM »
Guys, Iraq had nothing to do with oil or 9/11.

It is as simple as one man's revenge upon another.
disagree Project for a New American Century was a bit too large to blame Iraq on just Bush family vendettas.
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« Reply #49 on: April 06, 2011, 09:12:21 AM »
Edn I thought your point was that "pull it" was to clear the fire fighters out of building 7? Now you're saying there were none in there too? But again if u read what I said above you could clealy see that I said that it more than likely collapsed cause of fire.

And ksu187...yes really. Why would NORAD go 0 for 4 on hijackings when they've never missed one ever? They even bothered to scramble fighter jets hundreds of miles away where they could be of no use. Sounds fishy to me

I asked you about the supposed motive for the conspiracy.  Hijacking and scrambling jets have nothing to do with the motive, they are just part of your speculation on the actual event itself. 

You are claiming 9/11 happened so our government/soldiers could go over to Afghanistan:jerk:

What is the benefit for the "powers that be" of making up a scheme which allows thousands to be slaughtered as an excuse for invading a horrible country? 

And even if they wanted to invade Afghanistan, why would they go through all the trouble of a conspiracy/coverup when they could just easily make up some stuff like they did in Iraq?

 :ck:


Oil and money, dude  :jerk:

Again, if that was the "motive," why go through all that trouble? Why not just make some cac up like they did in Iraq?