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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #750 on: April 04, 2011, 11:49:50 AM »
Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. His value, relative to where he is, has nowhere to go but down.

just because every announcer this month has filled vcu game air time talking about how hot a candidate smart is doesn't mean it's true.  he's viewed as a flash in the pan, wasn't the first choice for any opening this year.  was at best, the first fallback for the worst high-major job to open.

A guy who takes VCU to the Final Four is a hot candidate. WGAF what announcers say.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #751 on: April 04, 2011, 11:50:13 AM »
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Sources also told FOXSports.com that N.C. State AD Debbie Yow hasn't completely given up on getting Shaka Smart. Still trying.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #752 on: April 04, 2011, 11:50:57 AM »
tweet from a student on campus...

"Just saw almost every athlete I can recognize walking into Hale... maybe there is some meeting going on? An announcement of sorts?"

 :dunno: :runaway:  :cry:

The Annc is that LHC Bill Snyder has died of Oldballznesia and will coach from Cryostasis.
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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #753 on: April 04, 2011, 11:51:17 AM »
Not sure how you'd come to that conclusion. His value, relative to where he is, has nowhere to go but down.

just because every announcer this month has filled vcu game air time talking about how hot a candidate smart is doesn't mean it's true.  he's viewed as a flash in the pan, wasn't the first choice for any opening this year.  was at best, the first fallback for the worst high-major job to open.

Uhm, Shaka Smart has a National Championship. Just like Deb Patterson.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #754 on: April 04, 2011, 11:51:44 AM »
How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Mike Krzyzewski, John Calipari, Bill Self, Jim Calhoun, etc.

I'm looking at more of a percentage here.

Also, Calipari doesn't really count.  The guy went from UMass to the NBA, then to Memphis, and then to Kentucky.

And everyone was basically mid-major when K and Calhoun ascended to their current jobs.  Come on, dude.

Self is legit.

oscar Pearl, Sean Miller. You're probably right the percentages aren't good. But like Dax said, even if you fail, you're still in good shape. Seems like coaches are egotistical and would want a challenge. Can't fault them for stayin where they are at though.
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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #755 on: April 04, 2011, 11:52:39 AM »
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Sources also told FOXSports.com that N.C. State AD Debbie Yow hasn't completely given up on getting Shaka Smart. Still trying.

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From the agent of a college hoops coach: It's not NC State, it's Yow. "Nobody wants to work for her."
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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #756 on: April 04, 2011, 11:52:54 AM »
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Sources also told FOXSports.com that N.C. State AD Debbie Yow hasn't completely given up on getting Shaka Smart. Still trying.

She must think she is Joe Castiglione
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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #757 on: April 04, 2011, 11:53:52 AM »
A women AD  :lol:

Does she want the right to vote too?

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #758 on: April 04, 2011, 11:56:24 AM »
How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Mike Krzyzewski, John Calipari, Bill Self, Jim Calhoun, etc.

I'm looking at more of a percentage here.

Also, Calipari doesn't really count.  The guy went from UMass to the NBA, then to Memphis, and then to Kentucky.

And everyone was basically mid-major when K and Calhoun ascended to their current jobs.  Come on, dude.

Self is legit.

oscar Pearl, Sean Miller. You're probably right the percentages aren't good. But like Dax said, even if you fail, you're still in good shape. Seems like coaches are egotistical and would want a challenge. Can't fault them for stayin where they are at though.

I'm not sure the percentages are any worse than those for coaches who come from BCS programs, keeping in mind that the jobs these people take over are usually middle-of-the-road BCS teams at best.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #759 on: April 04, 2011, 11:59:12 AM »
Any Miami players we can get when Frank tells them to go shazbot! themselves :dunno:

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #760 on: April 04, 2011, 12:01:06 PM »
Haith has been/was far from a horrible recruiter at Miami: http://statsheet.com/mcb/teams/miami-fl/recruiting

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #761 on: April 04, 2011, 12:03:30 PM »
Any Miami players we can get when Frank tells them to go shazbot! themselves :dunno:

This is a great alternative discussion.  810 said that they have a pretty good class coming in next year.  They didn't elaborate and I haven't checked.   

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #762 on: April 04, 2011, 12:04:14 PM »
How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Mike Krzyzewski, John Calipari, Bill Self, Jim Calhoun, etc.

I'm looking at more of a percentage here.

Also, Calipari doesn't really count.  The guy went from UMass to the NBA, then to Memphis, and then to Kentucky.

And everyone was basically mid-major when K and Calhoun ascended to their current jobs.  Come on, dude.

Self is legit.

oscar Pearl, Sean Miller. You're probably right the percentages aren't good. But like Dax said, even if you fail, you're still in good shape. Seems like coaches are egotistical and would want a challenge. Can't fault them for stayin where they are at though.

I'm not sure the percentages are any worse than those for coaches who come from BCS programs, keeping in mind that the jobs these people take over are usually middle-of-the-road BCS teams at best.

I think the minimum requirement you have to ask is, "Did every school they coach at get better?"  Self's teams performed everywhere he went.  Calipari's teams performed well everywhere he went (save the NBA).  Even Greg Marshall has won everywhere he's gone.  There's a track record of, "No matter where I go, I win," which gives you confidence that they'll do the same at your school.

Guys that have only done it at one mid-major seem risky to me.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #763 on: April 04, 2011, 12:06:15 PM »
What's VCU's record under Smart?

apparently, it's 55-21.
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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #764 on: April 04, 2011, 12:06:58 PM »
Miami should hire that guy who runs CLA.  Would love to see him in a D1 job. 

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #766 on: April 04, 2011, 12:11:28 PM »
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Shaka Smart has agreed to a deal to remain at VCU, sources told FOXSports.com.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #767 on: April 04, 2011, 12:13:04 PM »
Any Miami players we can get when Frank tells them to go shazbot! themselves :dunno:

Rivals shows one guy.  #112.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/player-Bishop-Daniels-81323;_ylt=AhgXlxOF3oASlPnULTDi6lLasJB4

Shooting guard, ok, we'll take him.  Great job Frank. 

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #768 on: April 04, 2011, 12:19:53 PM »
couple  :star: :star: :star: :star: guys in the '12 class but the '11 looks like just one three star kid
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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #769 on: April 04, 2011, 12:23:10 PM »
Would take Ken Pomeroy* over these last few losers mentioned. His meteorologist salary should be easy to beat.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #770 on: April 04, 2011, 12:31:02 PM »
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I am enjoying my first workday back in the Little Apple after my long trip - so having a slice of pep & anchovy pizza at AJ's - yum!


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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #771 on: April 04, 2011, 12:31:26 PM »
kstate_pres Kirk H. Schulz
I am enjoying my first workday back in the Little Apple after my long trip - so having a slice of pep & anchovy pizza at AJ's - yum!


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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #772 on: April 04, 2011, 12:38:24 PM »
schulz is bitb at reelin' us in.

only possible explanation.
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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #774 on: April 04, 2011, 12:42:09 PM »
kstate_pres Kirk H. Schulz
I am enjoying my first workday back in the Little Apple after my long trip - so having a slice of pep & anchovy pizza at AJ's - yum!


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I'd be more comfy if he were also going to see the source code.  Things go well when Kirk eats italian based foods and watched gyllenhaal.
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