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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #700 on: April 04, 2011, 11:08:21 AM »
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@kyleseiwert That's more like it. K State is def a better job, but Miami is home for Frank and he has had his eye on other jobs. Wait n see.

eye on other jobs huh. Just like every other coach out there. jfc.

Concept of keeping options open doesn't fly with that Seth Davis guy.
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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #702 on: April 04, 2011, 11:09:11 AM »
Nick Russell:  "The sun will come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow there'll be sun!"

Me:  Are you trying to hint that you're all following Frank to Miami?

Nick: (no answer yet). 

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #703 on: April 04, 2011, 11:09:58 AM »
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #704 on: April 04, 2011, 11:10:10 AM »
Nick Russell:  "The sun will come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that tomorrow there'll be sun!"

Me:  Are you trying to hint that you're all following Frank to Miami?

Nick: (no answer yet). 

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #705 on: April 04, 2011, 11:10:54 AM »
BITB weighs in:

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First let me say I don't think Miami is a real threat to make a play for
Frank Martin. It just seems like a step down.

But there is a lot of misinformation out there regarding Frank's salary. He does NOT make $1.5m per year at KSU. Every contract is different and everyone loves to use the term "incentives." Well, Frank has a very big incentive to stay the full term of the deal. It's a "retention incentive" and it was perhaps the most important part of the contract from John Currie and KSU's stand point.

Frank made $1.1 million this year, probably more than he ever thought he would make, but about half what some coaches of his stature are commanding. It is a well below market value deal with a pair of big incentives after 5 years that would bump his number up to the average of $1.5m if he stays the whole time.

Frank has small kids, genuinely likes Manhattan and KSU and is loyal and thankful to have the opportunity to coach at this level and make a great living.

But don't kid yourselves, the way this stuff is going, Frank Martin is quickly becoming underpaid and bigger threats than Miami will surface if he keeps winning.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #706 on: April 04, 2011, 11:11:45 AM »
BITB weighs in:

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First let me say I don't think Miami is a real threat to make a play for
Frank Martin. It just seems like a step down.

But there is a lot of misinformation out there regarding Frank's salary. He does NOT make $1.5m per year at KSU. Every contract is different and everyone loves to use the term "incentives." Well, Frank has a very big incentive to stay the full term of the deal. It's a "retention incentive" and it was perhaps the most important part of the contract from John Currie and KSU's stand point.

Frank made $1.1 million this year, probably more than he ever thought he would make, but about half what some coaches of his stature are commanding. It is a well below market value deal with a pair of big incentives after 5 years that would bump his number up to the average of $1.5m if he stays the whole time.

Frank has small kids, genuinely likes Manhattan and KSU and is loyal and thankful to have the opportunity to coach at this level and make a great living.

But don't kid yourselves, the way this stuff is going, Frank Martin is quickly becoming underpaid and bigger threats than Miami will surface if he keeps winning.

welcome to about 7 pages ago kougz  :excited:

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #707 on: April 04, 2011, 11:12:32 AM »
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@kyleseiwert That's more like it. K State is def a better job, but Miami is home for Frank and he has had his eye on other jobs. Wait n see.

eye on other jobs huh. Just like every other coach out there. jfc.

Dude, it's Seth.  He's horrible.  Just let him be horrible.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #708 on: April 04, 2011, 11:12:50 AM »
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does


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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #710 on: April 04, 2011, 11:14:32 AM »
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does

Doyel says he's texting Shaka as he's on this St loius station. lol

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #711 on: April 04, 2011, 11:15:45 AM »
The addition of twitter has made this much more volatile than the Huggins meltdown.

Who is our foremost expert and interpreting tweets?  I want them monitoring players/media/player's family/recruits tweets around the clock.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #712 on: April 04, 2011, 11:16:16 AM »
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #713 on: April 04, 2011, 11:16:30 AM »
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does

weird. Jacobsen, Stevens, That dude from Richmond, now Smart. Why don't they want bigger jobs?
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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #714 on: April 04, 2011, 11:17:01 AM »
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #715 on: April 04, 2011, 11:17:30 AM »
The addition of twitter has made this much more volatile than the Huggins meltdown.

Who is our foremost expert and interpreting tweets?  I want them monitoring players/media/player's family/recruits tweets around the clock.

This is where CNS Casey steps off the end of the bench, takes off his warm ups, and gets to do his best impersonation of Ollie from Hoosiers in the Regional final game.

Just put two in the hoop, Casey.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #716 on: April 04, 2011, 11:18:30 AM »
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

What a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #717 on: April 04, 2011, 11:19:15 AM »
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does

weird. Jacobsen, Stevens, That dude from Richmond, now Smart. Why don't they want bigger jobs?

How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Why not get paid about a million a year and coach in the Valley while being treated like a God?

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #718 on: April 04, 2011, 11:20:40 AM »
Shaka staying at VCU per Doyel


pffftttt, career suicide if he does

weird. Jacobsen, Stevens, That dude from Richmond, now Smart. Why don't they want bigger jobs?

How many mid-major guys end up panning out at bigger jobs?

Why not get paid about a million a year and coach in the Valley while being treated like a God?

Yeah, 810 said that Shaka is getting $300K right now. 

He needs to jump now.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #719 on: April 04, 2011, 11:21:31 AM »
BITB weighs in:

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First let me say I don't think Miami is a real threat to make a play for
Frank Martin. It just seems like a step down.

But there is a lot of misinformation out there regarding Frank's salary. He does NOT make $1.5m per year at KSU. Every contract is different and everyone loves to use the term "incentives." Well, Frank has a very big incentive to stay the full term of the deal. It's a "retention incentive" and it was perhaps the most important part of the contract from John Currie and KSU's stand point.

Frank made $1.1 million this year, probably more than he ever thought he would make, but about half what some coaches of his stature are commanding. It is a well below market value deal with a pair of big incentives after 5 years that would bump his number up to the average of $1.5m if he stays the whole time.

Frank has small kids, genuinely likes Manhattan and KSU and is loyal and thankful to have the opportunity to coach at this level and make a great living.

But don't kid yourselves, the way this stuff is going, Frank Martin is quickly becoming underpaid and bigger threats than Miami will surface if he keeps winning.

welcome to about 7 pages ago kougz  :excited:

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #720 on: April 04, 2011, 11:22:33 AM »
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

What a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Complete idiot . . . so it doesn't work out, who cares, you're a multi-millionaire who will get a 6 figure assistant coaching job somewhere in college or the NBA.


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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #721 on: April 04, 2011, 11:23:43 AM »
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

What a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Complete idiot . . . so it doesn't work out, who cares, you're a multi-millionaire who will get a 6 figure assistant coaching job somewhere in college or the NBA.



Its a phase, seems to be becoming the cool thing to do for the mid-majors. Few and Stevens setting the example.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #722 on: April 04, 2011, 11:24:24 AM »
Guys, I used to have a Miami hat.  

Also, if Frank can coach for another 30 years, this will work perfectly with the retirement plan my wife and I have.  Winters with Frank.  

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #723 on: April 04, 2011, 11:24:31 AM »
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

What a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Complete idiot . . . so it doesn't work out, who cares, you're a multi-millionaire who will get a 6 figure assistant coaching job somewhere in college or the NBA.



Its a phase, seems to be becoming the cool thing to do for the mid-majors. Few and Stevens setting the example.

You don't even hear Few's name tossed around for openings anymore.

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Re: Coaching Carousel Master Thread (MAYBE FEATURING THE KSU CATS?)
« Reply #724 on: April 04, 2011, 11:25:21 AM »
Doyel said Shaka was offered 6 years and 12 million at NC State and turned it down. JFC.

What a Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!).

Complete idiot . . . so it doesn't work out, who cares, you're a multi-millionaire who will get a 6 figure assistant coaching job somewhere in college or the NBA.



Its a phase, seems to be becoming the cool thing to do for the mid-majors. Few and Stevens setting the example.

You don't even hear Few's name tossed around for openings anymore.

Diff is that Few and Stevens will win next year, while Shaka..... :dunno: