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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #25 on: March 19, 2011, 11:31:10 PM »
95 looks to be the only guy on the roster next year that can regularly make a play on his own

by hammering the ball into the floor while staring at his shoes :dunno:

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #26 on: March 19, 2011, 11:33:11 PM »
95 looks to be the only guy on the roster next year that can regularly make a play on his own

by hammering the ball into the floor while staring at his shoes :dunno:

If we keep running Undy's O, who do you want running the high ball screen at the end of possessions?

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #27 on: March 19, 2011, 11:33:43 PM »
I'd forgotten about Nino. If he's worth a crap at all, he gives us some nice flexibility line-up wise.
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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #28 on: March 19, 2011, 11:35:45 PM »
95 looks to be the only guy on the roster next year that can regularly make a play on his own

by hammering the ball into the floor while staring at his shoes :dunno:

If we keep running Undy's O, who do you want running the high ball screen at the end of possessions?

someone else

I don't think we will run the same offense, the personnel will be completely different, square peg round hole.

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #29 on: March 19, 2011, 11:38:02 PM »
kstate'll be fine next year.  i'll save my pointless meltdowns for coaching searches.  maybe apportion a little to recruiting as well.

Please define 'fine.' While I don't think we'll be garbage, I don't see us being an NCAA tourney team.  I think we'll be okay, but its gonna be some time until we can make a run of any significance.

there are too many unknowns to predict well, but i'd guess 50/50ish on the tourney.  teams don't have to have a guy that takes 30% of its shots in order to be good.  pullen & kelly were incredibly important to the team, but their combined season long efficiency was pretty pedestrian.  and i have confidence (perhaps unreasonable confidence) that the staff can get just about any group of moderately talented players to defend pretty damn well.
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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #30 on: March 19, 2011, 11:40:32 PM »
95 looks to be the only guy on the roster next year that can regularly make a play on his own

by hammering the ball into the floor while staring at his shoes :dunno:

If we keep running Undy's O, who do you want running the high ball screen at the end of possessions?

someone else

I don't think we will run the same offense, the personnel will be completely different, square peg round hole.

I hope so too but I would love to see Diaz and JO run the hand off exchange 25 feet from the basket at least once

If Gipson and Diaz can play at all, a return to the JYC offense of getting shots up to create oboard opportunities may at least overwhelm a few teams

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #31 on: March 19, 2011, 11:42:55 PM »
kstate'll be fine next year.  i'll save my pointless meltdowns for coaching searches.  maybe apportion a little to recruiting as well.

Please define 'fine.' While I don't think we'll be garbage, I don't see us being an NCAA tourney team.  I think we'll be okay, but its gonna be some time until we can make a run of any significance.

there are too many unknowns to predict well, but i'd guess 50/50ish on the tourney.  teams don't have to have a guy that takes 30% of its shots in order to be good.  pullen & kelly were incredibly important to the team, but their combined season long efficiency was pretty pedestrian.  and i have confidence (perhaps unreasonable confidence) that the staff can get just about any group of moderately talented players to defend pretty damn well.

overall, I think I agree. I think we could be a bubble team next year, but right now I just wanna see no light at the end of the tunnel cause I'm bitter and jaded and hate effing wisconsin.

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #32 on: March 19, 2011, 11:44:09 PM »
If we keep running Undy's O, who do you want running the high ball screen at the end of possessions?

someone else

I don't think we will run the same offense, the personnel will be completely different, square peg round hole.

assuming kstate retains martin, the question of what offense we'll see next year will be the most interesting of the off-season.  right now, they look to only have four posts, and no matter what happens* they'll have just two experienced posts.  so you'd think a single post offense would make ever more sense than it did this year.


* - the obvious asterisk.
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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2011, 11:45:24 PM »
kstate'll be fine next year.  i'll save my pointless meltdowns for coaching searches.  maybe apportion a little to recruiting as well.

Please define 'fine.' While I don't think we'll be garbage, I don't see us being an NCAA tourney team.  I think we'll be okay, but its gonna be some time until we can make a run of any significance.

there are too many unknowns to predict well, but i'd guess 50/50ish on the tourney.  teams don't have to have a guy that takes 30% of its shots in order to be good.  pullen & kelly were incredibly important to the team, but their combined season long efficiency was pretty pedestrian.  and i have confidence (perhaps unreasonable confidence) that the staff can get just about any group of moderately talented players to defend pretty damn well.

Good post.  The situation following the last time we lost to Wisconsin was much more dire.

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2011, 11:46:49 PM »
kstate'll be fine next year.  i'll save my pointless meltdowns for coaching searches.  maybe apportion a little to recruiting as well.

Please define 'fine.' While I don't think we'll be garbage, I don't see us being an NCAA tourney team.  I think we'll be okay, but its gonna be some time until we can make a run of any significance.

there are too many unknowns to predict well, but i'd guess 50/50ish on the tourney.  teams don't have to have a guy that takes 30% of its shots in order to be good.  pullen & kelly were incredibly important to the team, but their combined season long efficiency was pretty pedestrian.  and i have confidence (perhaps unreasonable confidence) that the staff can get just about any group of moderately talented players to defend pretty damn well.

Good post.  The situation following the last time we lost to Wisconsin was much more dire.

No, cause remember, Beasley was totally going to stay cause he loved KSU too much...

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2011, 11:47:40 PM »
kstate'll be fine next year.  i'll save my pointless meltdowns for coaching searches.  maybe apportion a little to recruiting as well.

Please define 'fine.' While I don't think we'll be garbage, I don't see us being an NCAA tourney team.  I think we'll be okay, but its gonna be some time until we can make a run of any significance.

there are too many unknowns to predict well, but i'd guess 50/50ish on the tourney.  teams don't have to have a guy that takes 30% of its shots in order to be good.  pullen & kelly were incredibly important to the team, but their combined season long efficiency was pretty pedestrian.  and i have confidence (perhaps unreasonable confidence) that the staff can get just about any group of moderately talented players to defend pretty damn well.

Good post.  The situation following the last time we lost to Wisconsin was much more dire.

so who is going to be this next generation's 3-star diamond in the rough?

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2011, 12:02:51 AM »
kstate'll be fine next year.  i'll save my pointless meltdowns for coaching searches.  maybe apportion a little to recruiting as well.

Please define 'fine.' While I don't think we'll be garbage, I don't see us being an NCAA tourney team.  I think we'll be okay, but its gonna be some time until we can make a run of any significance.


there are too many unknowns to predict well, but i'd guess 50/50ish on the tourney.  teams don't have to have a guy that takes 30% of its shots in order to be good.  pullen & kelly were incredibly important to the team, but their combined season long efficiency was pretty pedestrian.  and i have confidence (perhaps unreasonable confidence) that the staff can get just about any group of moderately talented players to defend pretty damn well.

Good post.  The situation following the last time we lost to Wisconsin was much more dire.

so who is going to be this next generation's 3-star diamond in the rough?

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2011, 12:07:35 AM »
kstate'll be fine next year.  i'll save my pointless meltdowns for coaching searches.  maybe apportion a little to recruiting as well.

Please define 'fine.' While I don't think we'll be garbage, I don't see us being an NCAA tourney team.  I think we'll be okay, but its gonna be some time until we can make a run of any significance.

there are too many unknowns to predict well, but i'd guess 50/50ish on the tourney.  teams don't have to have a guy that takes 30% of its shots in order to be good.  pullen & kelly were incredibly important to the team, but their combined season long efficiency was pretty pedestrian.  and i have confidence (perhaps unreasonable confidence) that the staff can get just about any group of moderately talented players to defend pretty damn well.

Good post.  The situation following the last time we lost to Wisconsin was much more dire.

so who is going to be this next generation's 3-star diamond in the rough?

Will, but none will ever polish up as well as jake.

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2011, 12:11:11 AM »
kstate'll be fine next year.  i'll save my pointless meltdowns for coaching searches.  maybe apportion a little to recruiting as well.

Please define 'fine.' While I don't think we'll be garbage, I don't see us being an NCAA tourney team.  I think we'll be okay, but its gonna be some time until we can make a run of any significance.

there are too many unknowns to predict well, but i'd guess 50/50ish on the tourney.  teams don't have to have a guy that takes 30% of its shots in order to be good.  pullen & kelly were incredibly important to the team, but their combined season long efficiency was pretty pedestrian.  and i have confidence (perhaps unreasonable confidence) that the staff can get just about any group of moderately talented players to defend pretty damn well.

Good post.  The situation following the last time we lost to Wisconsin was much more dire.

so who is going to be this next generation's 3-star diamond in the rough?

Will, but none will ever polish up as well as jake.

I don't/won't expect Will to be another Jake, but I think Will has a chance to be pretty good.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=jacob-pullen&jacob-pullen=2007-2008&p1=will-spradling

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2011, 12:11:51 AM »
kstate'll be fine next year.  i'll save my pointless meltdowns for coaching searches.  maybe apportion a little to recruiting as well.

Please define 'fine.' While I don't think we'll be garbage, I don't see us being an NCAA tourney team.  I think we'll be okay, but its gonna be some time until we can make a run of any significance.

there are too many unknowns to predict well, but i'd guess 50/50ish on the tourney.  teams don't have to have a guy that takes 30% of its shots in order to be good.  pullen & kelly were incredibly important to the team, but their combined season long efficiency was pretty pedestrian.  and i have confidence (perhaps unreasonable confidence) that the staff can get just about any group of moderately talented players to defend pretty damn well.

Good post.  The situation following the last time we lost to Wisconsin was much more dire.

so who is going to be this next generation's 3-star diamond in the rough?

Will, but none will ever polish up as well as jake.

I don't/won't expect Will to be another Jake, but I think Will has a chance to be pretty good.

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=jacob-pullen&jacob-pullen=2007-2008&p1=will-spradling

That is what I am saying.

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #40 on: March 20, 2011, 12:18:14 AM »
I see next year as a very 08-09 KSU Q@t rebuilding year in which we'll have an ok season and are a bubble team down the stretch

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #41 on: March 20, 2011, 10:04:56 AM »
Nick implies he'll be back:

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Sophomore guard Nick Russell lamented the loss to the Badgers as being the last time this K-State team would all be together as a team.

"We've spent so much time together, this group, that it hurts to know that this is the last time that we'll all be together as a whole," Russell said. "You lose and you have to look those seniors in the eye and know that that's it for them. You know that your time with them is done and it's something you never wanted to feel.

"The people that are left in here, the people that are coming back have to get back to work for next year. We have to work even harder now."

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« Reply #42 on: March 20, 2011, 10:22:56 AM »
Nick implies he'll be back:

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Sophomore guard Nick Russell lamented the loss to the Badgers as being the last time this K-State team would all be together as a team.

"We've spent so much time together, this group, that it hurts to know that this is the last time that we'll all be together as a whole," Russell said. "You lose and you have to look those seniors in the eye and know that that's it for them. You know that your time with them is done and it's something you never wanted to feel.

"The people that are left in here, the people that are coming back have to get back to work for next year. We have to work even harder now."

i think wally had a quote like this last year after butler.

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #43 on: March 20, 2011, 10:39:43 AM »
I think Nino will be pretty good.

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #44 on: March 20, 2011, 10:48:42 AM »
Just don't run anyone off, Frank.

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« Reply #45 on: March 20, 2011, 11:01:56 AM »
Looks like a team full of complementary players.

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #46 on: March 20, 2011, 11:10:33 AM »
Looks like a team full of complementary players.

Agreed, but I think Will, Jamar, or even Nick could step up. Will and Jamar obviously won't be as good as CK and Pullen, but they can be "fine".

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #47 on: March 20, 2011, 11:10:54 AM »
I think Nino will be pretty good.

I'm thinking this as well. Lots of room to grow, redshirt year was probably the best for him (concussion or not). Then add in the three recruits coming in and Omari. Biggest ? is on Omari.

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« Reply #48 on: March 20, 2011, 11:13:43 AM »
Looks like a team full of complementary players.

Agreed, but I think Will, Jamar, or even Nick could step up. Will and Jamar obviously won't be as good as CK and Pullen, but they can be "fine".

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Re: Nick & Rod
« Reply #49 on: March 20, 2011, 11:17:55 AM »
I think the biggest question for me is if Gipson can make a decent impact or not. We obviously need a decent option outside of Samuels and DOB, and I'm fairly positive it won't be Diaz (or Judge if he comes back).