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Re: Japan
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2011, 11:09:52 AM »
I think this is the second worst disaster in the history of Japan.

Not including the nuke plants, you are prob right.  If anything comes out of the nuke's, it will easily become #1. 

Today show was saying that this could be very close to chernoble(SP).  If that is the case, you gotta think that this will not only have an obvious immediate effect but that it could kill most of their exports for many years, if not a couple decades, to come.  Who will buy grain, livestock, etc from a place that had so much radiation leakage?

Long term mumped.

I'm not certain you are 100% up to date on the grain and livestock exports of Japan.....

You are 100% right.  Just spit balling.  I recognize that such a small (geo) country with such a large pop prob has 0 such things going out, and most coming in.  You are right.  Maybe it will increase their imports of such stuff.   :dunno:

Either way,  Japan has to be slightly more upset/worried right now than Utah State.

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Re: Japan
« Reply #51 on: March 14, 2011, 11:25:48 AM »
completely diff situ than chernoble


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Re: Japan
« Reply #52 on: March 14, 2011, 11:28:19 AM »
completely diff situ than chernoble

They weren't saying it happened the same, they were talking about fall out magnitude.

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Re: Japan
« Reply #53 on: March 14, 2011, 11:31:18 AM »
completely diff situ than chernoble

this. reuters has a nice breakdown on this.
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Re: Japan
« Reply #54 on: March 14, 2011, 12:15:26 PM »
I don't think it's spelled Chernoble, guys.

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Re: Japan
« Reply #55 on: March 14, 2011, 12:16:06 PM »
not looking so positive fellas

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Re: Japan
« Reply #56 on: March 14, 2011, 12:18:24 PM »
not looking so positive fellas

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Re: Japan
« Reply #57 on: March 14, 2011, 12:24:02 PM »
not looking so positive fellas

explain
Japan has formally asked for help from the US for the Fukushima reactor.  Rumblings of  fuel rods being fully exposed and coolant can longer be injected.  This would be bad.

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Re: Japan
« Reply #58 on: March 14, 2011, 12:25:44 PM »
not looking so positive fellas

explain
Japan has formally asked for help from the US for the Fukushima reactor.  Rumblings of  fuel rods being fully exposed and coolant can longer be injected.  This would be bad.
Explain bad.

Will you be helping with the Fukushima reactor?
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Re: Japan
« Reply #59 on: March 14, 2011, 12:27:21 PM »
Let me be clear though, this is not Chernobyl.

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Re: Japan
« Reply #60 on: March 14, 2011, 12:32:25 PM »
not looking so positive fellas

explain
Japan has formally asked for help from the US for the Fukushima reactor.  Rumblings of  fuel rods being fully exposed and coolant can longer be injected.  This would be bad.
Explain bad.

Will you be helping with the Fukushima reactor?
Bad would be loss of containment and a release of radiation.

I am way not qualified to help.  I can throw a physics book at the plant though.

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Re: Japan
« Reply #61 on: March 14, 2011, 12:34:36 PM »
not looking so positive fellas

explain
Japan has formally asked for help from the US for the Fukushima reactor.  Rumblings of  fuel rods being fully exposed and coolant can longer be injected.  This would be bad.
Explain bad.

Will you be helping with the Fukushima reactor?
Bad would be loss of containment and a release of radiation.

I am way not qualified to help.  I can throw a physics book at the plant though.

omg. you should totally do that. be sure to take pics and post them too.

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Re: Japan
« Reply #62 on: March 14, 2011, 12:38:05 PM »
pokemons

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Re: Japan
« Reply #63 on: March 14, 2011, 01:02:01 PM »
pokemons

DO NOT WANT.

If what Chingon is saying is correct, basically every pokemon and hello kitty item will be filled with radiation and will be deadly.

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Re: Japan
« Reply #64 on: March 14, 2011, 01:07:22 PM »
If Maru's not concerned, neither am I  :blank:

http://sisinmaru.blog17.fc2.com/blog-entry-836.html

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Re: Japan
« Reply #65 on: March 14, 2011, 01:10:02 PM »
pokemons

DO NOT WANT.

If what Chingon is saying is correct, basically every pokemon and hello kitty item will be filled with radiation and will be deadly.
Rogue Pokemons can be deadly, especially if Team Rocket gets a hold of them.
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Re: Japan
« Reply #66 on: March 14, 2011, 01:11:54 PM »
OK, did some reading on this and it sounds like "exposed rods" are bad and can lead to a "meltdown."  However, it sounds like much of this is because they ran out of gas.

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The plant operator, Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO), said fuel rods at the No. 2 reactor were fully exposed, which could lead to the rods melting down.  The rods, normally surrounded by water, were partially exposed earlier after the engine-powered pump pouring in this water ran out of fuel.



Why is this different than Chernobyl?  Is it worse?  Not as bad?  :dunno:


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Re: Japan
« Reply #67 on: March 14, 2011, 01:14:56 PM »
I'm no expert, but I think Chernobyl was a "In Soviet Russia, nuclear reactor melts down you!" kind of situation.
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Re: Japan
« Reply #68 on: March 14, 2011, 01:22:24 PM »
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Sixty-year-old Hiromitsu Shinkawa was found floating on the roof of his house ten miles from the coast of Japan, two days after the tsunami hit his town of Minami Soma.

Incredibly, he was spotted by a maritime self-defence force destroyer taking part in the rescue effort as he clung to the wreckage with one hand and waved a self-made red flag with the other. He had been at sea for two days.

Reports said that on being handed a drink aboard the rescue boat, Shinkawa gulped it down and immediately burst into tears. His wife, with whom he had returned home as the tsunami approached, is still missing.

He was quoted as saying: “No helicopters or boats that came nearby noticed me. I thought that day was going to be the last day of my life.”

Officials said Shinkawa was in good condition after being taken to hospital by helicopter.

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Re: Japan
« Reply #69 on: March 14, 2011, 01:23:15 PM »
it has a better containment system than Chernobyl although without running engines to keep the fuel cells underwater, the core will melt down to the bottom of the reactor vessel and the containment will eventually fail.  this could all happen in a couple of days.


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Re: Japan
« Reply #70 on: March 14, 2011, 01:23:55 PM »
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Sixty-year-old Hiromitsu Shinkawa was found floating on the roof of his house ten miles from the coast of Japan, two days after the tsunami hit his town of Minami Soma.

Incredibly, he was spotted by a maritime self-defence force destroyer taking part in the rescue effort as he clung to the wreckage with one hand and waved a self-made red flag with the other. He had been at sea for two days.

Reports said that on being handed a drink aboard the rescue boat, Shinkawa gulped it down and immediately burst into tears. His wife, with whom he had returned home as the tsunami approached, is still missing.

He was quoted as saying: “No helicopters or boats that came nearby noticed me. I thought that day was going to be the last day of my life.”

Officials said Shinkawa was in good condition after being taken to hospital by helicopter.

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Now he'll be able to die of radiation sickness.  Grats Japanese bro.

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Re: Japan
« Reply #71 on: March 14, 2011, 01:24:38 PM »
it has a better containment system than Chernobyl although without running engines to keep the fuel cells underwater, the core will melt down to the bottom of the reactor vessel and the containment will eventually fail.  this could all happen in a couple of days.

What would that do damage wise?  How bad are we talking?

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Re: Japan
« Reply #72 on: March 14, 2011, 01:28:46 PM »
so after melt down then it blows up and carries radioactive crap into the atmosphere where it's carried over the countryside, exposing the land, plants, and animals to radiation.


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Re: Japan
« Reply #73 on: March 14, 2011, 01:35:17 PM »
so after melt down then it blows up and carries radioactive crap into the atmosphere where it's carried over the countryside, exposing the land, plants, and animals to radiation.
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Re: Japan
« Reply #74 on: March 14, 2011, 01:39:43 PM »
Did we ever figure out if Stunz was dead?