Author Topic: Holy War (Read 139757 times)

PoetWarrior · « **Reply #250 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:20:03 PM »

Quote from: Limestone on February 28, 2011, 05:05:46 PM

Do unborn muslim babies go to heaven?

I'm trying to imagine what would make an unborn baby a Muslim.

PoetWarrior · « **Reply #251 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:23:12 PM »

Quote from: nicname on February 28, 2011, 05:16:21 PM

Quote from: 8manpick on February 28, 2011, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 28, 2011, 04:55:26 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on February 28, 2011, 04:46:42 PM
Whats wrong with living your life as a good person but not worrying about God or religion?

It's meaningless and stupid.

Only a real idiot would do it.
So my day to day enjoyment of life is meaningless? My appreciation of different activities and interactions with people is somehow meaningless because I don't think base my enjoyment of these things on a God or religion?

Enjoy every moment of your life for what it is. Enjoy even the depressing times because you know you'll appreciate the good ones more. Enjoy the depth of your emotions, the use of your abilities, and the beauty of the world around you.

Yeah, I really hope your post was facetious PW.

I am not.

If you are living your life for anything but Jesus Christ, it is meaningless.

You're either for Him or against Him.

pike · « **Reply #252 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:26:10 PM »

Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 28, 2011, 06:23:12 PM

Quote from: nicname on February 28, 2011, 05:16:21 PM
Quote from: 8manpick on February 28, 2011, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 28, 2011, 04:55:26 PM
Quote from: yoga-like_abana on February 28, 2011, 04:46:42 PM
Whats wrong with living your life as a good person but not worrying about God or religion?

It's meaningless and stupid.

Only a real idiot would do it.
So my day to day enjoyment of life is meaningless? My appreciation of different activities and interactions with people is somehow meaningless because I don't think base my enjoyment of these things on a God or religion?

Enjoy every moment of your life for what it is. Enjoy even the depressing times because you know you'll appreciate the good ones more. Enjoy the depth of your emotions, the use of your abilities, and the beauty of the world around you.

Yeah, I really hope your post was facetious PW.

I am not.

If you are living your life for anything but Jesus Christ, it is meaningless.

You're either for Him or against Him.

That's extremely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

1/64th · « **Reply #253 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:32:07 PM »

Quote from: 8manpick on February 28, 2011, 05:02:12 PM

Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 28, 2011, 04:49:57 PM
Quote from: CNS Casey on February 28, 2011, 04:23:45 PM
What if Jesus was just a really nice guy? What if a god judged people based off of the daily choices they make rather than Jesus getting offed? What if what he did got him judged kindly, but has nothing to do with you or yours?

Better yet, what if god didn't pay any attention to anything "us" related. What if god exists but doesn't serve the function that many think?

Christians believe that the Bible is the divinely inspired word of God. It answers all of these questions...There's not much else a Christian can say...

I have a completely serious question: if the Bible is "the divinely inspired word of God," what was wrong with the books that were written, but left out of the final "official" version of the New Testament? Were they less divinely inspired? Were they later removed due to human error? Sorry, LHBIQ.

Look up the council of nicea. you will find the answer there.

PoetWarrior · « **Reply #254 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:32:57 PM »

Quote from: pike on February 28, 2011, 06:26:10 PM

Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 28, 2011, 06:23:12 PM

I am not.

If you are living your life for anything but Jesus Christ, it is meaningless.

You're either for Him or against Him.

That's extremely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

Matthew 12:30
"Whoever is not with me is against me..." - Jesus

pike · « **Reply #255 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:45:03 PM »

Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 28, 2011, 06:32:57 PM

Quote from: pike on February 28, 2011, 06:26:10 PM
Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 28, 2011, 06:23:12 PM

I am not.

If you are living your life for anything but Jesus Christ, it is meaningless.

You're either for Him or against Him.

That's extremely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

Matthew 12:30
"Whoever is not with me is against me..." - Jesus

Don't care what Jesus said. Sounds like George Bush

8manpick · « **Reply #256 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:47:31 PM »

Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 28, 2011, 06:32:57 PM

Quote from: pike on February 28, 2011, 06:26:10 PM
Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 28, 2011, 06:23:12 PM

I am not.

If you are living your life for anything but Jesus Christ, it is meaningless.

You're either for Him or against Him.

That's extremely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

Matthew 12:30
"Whoever is not with me is against me..." - Jesus

Fine that you can be for or against him. Not fine with "If you are living life for anything but JHC, it is meaningless." That's rough ridin' stupid. People that believe crap like that ruin religion.

Goldbrick · « **Reply #257 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:48:11 PM »

Who better to ask about the afterlife than those that experienced it?

Want to know what those that have had near death experiences and lived to tell about it had to say about the afterlife and God? God appears to be a being composed of light. 'It' fills one's consciousness with only love. Be you Mother Theresa or Hitler, its the same love. But here's the kicker: You get to experience all the interactions with other people over your lifetime as those people experienced it. Treat someone like cac? You get to experience his rage, sadness, etc. Treat them with love? You get the warm feeling.

How you treat people matters. Its what life is all about.

pike · « **Reply #258 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:52:44 PM »

Near death experiences are nothing more than the brain releasing crap loads of DMT and then tripping out on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine

wetwillie · « **Reply #259 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:54:50 PM »

Is this the equivalent of the Cigar's thread for the Birther Pit? This thing is getting out of hand.

Goldbrick · « **Reply #260 on:** February 28, 2011, 06:58:08 PM »

Quote from: pike on February 28, 2011, 06:52:44 PM

Near death experiences are nothing more than the brain releasing cac loads of DMT and then tripping out on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine

There are about thirty cases now where the person experiencing the NDE was able to report information, later verified by medical staff, that they couldn't have known during the state their brain was in. No brain activity. Distant location of said recalled events.

Its not something happening in the brain. You can't throw blanket statements out to explain some cases but not all.

pike · « **Reply #261 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:00:54 PM »

Quote from: Goldbrick on February 28, 2011, 06:58:08 PM

Quote from: pike on February 28, 2011, 06:52:44 PM
Near death experiences are nothing more than the brain releasing cac loads of DMT and then tripping out on it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine

There are about thirty cases now where the person experiencing the NDE was able to report information, later verified by medical staff, that they couldn't have known during the state their brain was in. No brain activity. Distant location of said recalled events.

Its not something happening in the brain. You can't throw blanket statements out to explain some cases but not all.

Yeah I've heard of that, but IDK, DMT is a hell of a drug

OK_Cat · « **Reply #262 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:04:16 PM »

so now we're supposed to believe that god exists because someone saw white light when they were near death?

i like to live by facts. the fact is, there is no proof of god. religion is based on faith that something exists.

Goldbrick · « **Reply #263 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:08:54 PM »

Quote from: OK_Cat on February 28, 2011, 07:04:16 PM

so now we're supposed to believe that god exists because someone saw white light when they were near death?

i like to live by facts. the fact is, there is no proof of god. religion is based on faith that something exists.

Actually, I don't care what you believe. Your beliefs are a non-issue to me.

But if we're going to speak of God than it seems reasonable to me to lend an ear to those that have claimed to meet 'it'. And what do you know, across cultures, religions, and geography, they tell the same tale.

OK_Cat · « **Reply #264 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:13:19 PM »

so "meeting god" is seeing white light when your body is fighting for life?

I don't care if people believe in god or not. i do care that people use religion as an excuse to be horrible, nasty people.

Goldbrick · « **Reply #265 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:21:59 PM »

Quote from: OK_Cat on February 28, 2011, 07:13:19 PM

so "meeting god" is seeing white light when your body is fighting for life?

I don't care if people believe in god or not. i do care that people use religion as an excuse to be horrible, nasty people.

"Meeting God" is being in the presence of a light-being that fills one's consciousness with unconditional love. God apparently doesn't judge. YOU judge yourself after experiencing your life from those that you affected throughout it.

I also don't care if people believe in God or not. That is not a prerequisite to get into 'heaven'. Heaven does not appear to be an exclusive club for any group. Personally, what I think happened was people were reporting NDE's all throughout man's history. Men took this story and those wanting to exploit people started attaching their own desires onto it. 'You must believe in Jesus', 'Sharia is the only way', 'Homosexuals will burn'.

Christians being nasty people will be no different than atheists being so. All that matters is how they treated the life around them. How they made them feel.

ArchE_Cat · « **Reply #266 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:27:04 PM »

Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 28, 2011, 06:32:57 PM

Quote from: pike on February 28, 2011, 06:26:10 PM
Quote from: PoetWarrior on February 28, 2011, 06:23:12 PM

I am not.

If you are living your life for anything but Jesus Christ, it is meaningless.

You're either for Him or against Him.

That's extremely Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)

Matthew 12:30
"Whoever is not with me is against me..." - Jesus

Jesus also never said, "Choose me now or lose me forever."

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #267 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:59:31 PM »

Quote from: Goldbrick on February 28, 2011, 07:21:59 PM

God apparently doesn't judge.

All Eyez on Me
"Only God Can Judge Me...." - Tupac Shakur

the KHAN! · « **Reply #268 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:34:07 PM »

8 pages in and not one atheist has addressed the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) nature of relative morality yet.

How telling.

pike · « **Reply #269 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:56:18 PM »

Quote from: El Gato on February 28, 2011, 10:34:07 PM

8 pages in and not one atheist has addressed the Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) nature of relative morality yet.

How telling.

the KHAN! · « **Reply #270 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:57:10 PM »

Just the kind of argument you've put forth so far.

Keep trying, boyo. Maybe you can come up with a clever, but over used picture about how Christianity is absurd.

yoga-like_abana · « **Reply #271 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:59:27 PM »

hey we beat texas. go cats

thanks god

the KHAN! · « **Reply #272 on:** February 28, 2011, 11:03:17 PM »

Quote from: yoga-like_abana on February 28, 2011, 10:59:27 PM

hey we beat texas. go cats thanks god

This

8manpick · « **Reply #273 on:** February 28, 2011, 11:14:07 PM »

Quote from: yoga-like_abana on February 28, 2011, 10:59:27 PM

hey we beat texas. go cats thanks god

god must hate Texas. Thanks big guy!

michigancat · « **Reply #274 on:** February 28, 2011, 11:15:25 PM »

calling an idea Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!) is immoral.