Author Topic: I thought I'd let it slide because of the win... (Read 8167 times)

wes mantooth · « **on:** February 23, 2011, 10:43:38 PM »

But Shane...

Why does Frank hate Devon Russell?

PowercatPat · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:47:35 PM »

Southwell is awful. Spradling wasn't any better tonight either.

sonofdaxjones · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:48:06 PM »

There were at least

moments with Shane tonight.

But there were at least that many

with JoCoSpradling as well.

AbeFroman · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:48:32 PM »

Southwell definitely had an off night. He's not terrible though.

wes mantooth · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:49:24 PM »

Guys there is another thread for Spradler, this one is for Shane. Thank you.

nicname · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:50:09 PM »

Southwell just needs to develop a jump shot. If he could shoot he would be pretty lethal offensively. As it is he is a bit of a liability. His defense is generally really good though.

wes mantooth · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:52:32 PM »

Quote from: nicname on February 23, 2011, 10:50:09 PM

Southwell just needs to develop a jump shot. If he could shoot he would be pretty lethal offensively. As it is he is a bit of a liability. His defense is generally really good though.

He gave up that wide open 3 in the corner. And his passing, which was supposed to be the best on the team, left me

tonight.

But between him, Sprad, and Irving, all 3 didn't do anything all night. Not sure what Nick and 95 could do worse.

_33 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:54:29 PM »

Wes Mantooth, my Ed thread is getting trashed in combo-fanning. Can you go over there and say something nice about it?

nicname · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2011, 10:56:51 PM »

Quote from: wes mantooth on February 23, 2011, 10:52:32 PM

Quote from: nicname on February 23, 2011, 10:50:09 PM
Southwell just needs to develop a jump shot. If he could shoot he would be pretty lethal offensively. As it is he is a bit of a liability. His defense is generally really good though.

He gave up that wide open 3 in the corner. And his passing, which was supposed to be the best on the team, left me tonight.

But between him, Sprad, and Irving, all 3 didn't do anything all night. Not sure what Nick and 95 could do worse.

I wasn't really talking about tonight's game specifically, just his overall play this season. Meh, one game, small sample size.

jtksu · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:06:43 PM »

Frank is probably just trying to lose games this year. No other explaination why 95 doesn't get more PT than those other guys.

kso_FAN · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:07:36 PM »

Defense and passing.

kougar24 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:20:33 PM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 23, 2011, 11:07:36 PM

Defense and passing.

Neither were good tonight from Southwell.

nicname · « **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2011, 11:27:59 PM »

Also, Wes, I'm not really trying to defend him. He really does need to improve a lot offensively. Frank must just think his D vs. other's O is a better trade-off.

theymightbegiants · « **Reply #13 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:01:58 AM »

Seems like frank is finally trying to let players play through ruff patches. Wish some other guys had recieved a few minutes, but at least southwell and spradling received significant minutes when things were not going well for them. Tourney time this will hopefully help them out, spradling still clutch on his free throws.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #14 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:16:25 AM »

Quote from: nicname on February 23, 2011, 11:27:59 PM

Also, Wes, I'm not really trying to defend him. He really does need to improve a lot offensively. Frank must just think his D vs. other's O is a better trade-off.

as long as he's defending, rebounding and passing he'll keep starting. didn't play well offensively tonight even for his low standards.

thought he defended and rebounded just fine.

MakeItRain · « **Reply #15 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:19:10 AM »

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 23, 2011, 11:07:36 PM

Defense and passing.

God I hope not, he absolutely graded out with an F in both areas tonight

sys · « **Reply #16 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:20:40 AM »

martin just likes the way an offense looks when you have a wing the defense sags off of.

nicname · « **Reply #17 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:21:04 AM »

Quote from: MakeItRain on February 24, 2011, 12:19:10 AM

Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 23, 2011, 11:07:36 PM
Defense and passing.

God I hope not, he absolutely graded out with an F in both areas tonight

One game. Also, I think the passing/ playmaking suffers pretty bad from his lack of shooting touch. Teams don't guard him.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #18 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:21:48 AM »

i assume everyone defended well in a team effort giving up .86ppp.

mcmwcat · « **Reply #19 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:22:22 AM »

Quote from: sys on February 24, 2011, 12:20:40 AM

martin just likes the way an offense looks when you have a wing the defense sags off of.

lol

MakeItRain · « **Reply #20 on:** February 24, 2011, 12:26:13 AM »

Quote from: nicname on February 24, 2011, 12:21:04 AM

Quote from: MakeItRain on February 24, 2011, 12:19:10 AM
Quote from: ksu_FAN on February 23, 2011, 11:07:36 PM
Defense and passing.

God I hope not, he absolutely graded out with an F in both areas tonight

One game. Also, I think the passing/ playmaking suffers pretty bad from his lack of shooting touch. Teams don't guard him.

Yeah it's one game, that's what's being discussed hence the title "I thought I'd let it slide because of the win..."

His lack of shooting has crap to do with him throwing the ball to a player who is being denied the ball, he had two turnovers, he did it three times, got lucky as hell once.

jtksu · « **Reply #21 on:** February 24, 2011, 03:08:49 AM »

You remember that game when Russel won us the game and Southwell lost us the game? That was crazy.

steve dave · « **Reply #22 on:** February 24, 2011, 07:29:29 AM »

Quote from: sys on February 24, 2011, 12:20:40 AM

martin just likes the way an offense looks when you have a wing the defense sags off of.

I like the way the offense looks when that dreamy son of a bitch is on the floor

mcmwcat · « **Reply #23 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:07:44 AM »

0 assists for Southwell. 4 assists for team. team's fault or Southwell's?

Cire · « **Reply #24 on:** February 24, 2011, 08:12:25 AM »

Gruds and sprads missed some damn good looks.