Wall-E

[michigancat]

seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.

He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.

what the hell is that about?

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10586.0

[Saulbadguy]

Someone needs to call him out over this. On Twitter.

[SdK]

seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.

He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.

what the hell is that about?

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10586.0

I'm not sure I agree with this. It's not like Wally was making of JHR's work ethic, game, or anything to do with basketball. JHR is not exempt for being impersonated because he is on the team and Wally is not.

[SdK]

He's a great athlete.

he's really not.  he's fine, has a nice body, good hands, passes well, etc.  but he's nothing more than an ordinary high-major pf athlete.

ordinary high-major athlete? What does that even mean? If you want to tell me he is an ordinary basketball player, fine. You want to tell me he will never be a great baller, fine. I don't know you can say he is not a great athlete though. I don't care what you amount to in college, if you have such nice highlight videos, you are a great athlete. Not necessarily a great basketball player though.

[Cartierfor3]

seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.

He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.

what the hell is that about?

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10586.0

meh.  would still take back

[michigancat]

JHR is not exempt for being impersonated because he is on the team and Wally is not.

No, but it definitely makes Wally more of a bitch than if he'd done it while still on the team.


I'm not entirely sure how Wally could be more of a bitch than he was when he was on the team, but it seems he's managed quite nicely.

[SdK]

JHR is not exempt for being impersonated because he is on the team and Wally is not.

No, but it definitely makes Wally more of a bitch than if he'd done it while still on the team.


I'm not entirely sure how Wally could be more of a bitch than he was when he was on the team, but it seems he's managed quite nicely.

Maybe he was trying to do JHR a favor...stir up his rep a bit for having ladies over, two in fact. I think this is the most logical explanation. Bravo Wally, you good samaritan!!!

[j-dub]

this is one of those rare times i agree with rusty.

wally sucks. do not want back.

[Rage Against the McKee]

seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.

He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.

what the hell is that about?

http://goEMAW.com/forum/index.php?topic=10586.0

meh.  would still take back

Wally can go eff himself. Nothing would make me happier than seeing JO dunk on Wally's bitch ass at Washburn next year.

[Cartierfor3]

this is one of those rare times i agree with rusty.

wally sucks. do not want back.

you probably wish we had lou and energy back

[SuperG]

seriously, post-quitting wally pisses me off.

He instantly goes from a poor little depressed pouting kitten to a guy making fun of his former teammates out there busting their ass, picking on drunk midgets, wishing he was playing HS ball, and laughing it up at his ex-teammates' games. eff him. The highlight of his career was Denis Clemente loudly uttering his name. That's it. Congrats, go have fun at the division 1 program where you can sit around on your ass pouting all day and still play 30 min/game.

Something seems to have touched a nerver.

[SuperG]

I think that when people say that, they're usually talking about things you're more or less born with like speed, agility, and leaping ability.  Things like having good hands and passing well seem more like acquired skills.

thanks, chum1.  i think when i say that he's not a great athlete, i'm usually talking about him not being particularly strong, fast, agile or bouncy compared to other high-major power forwards.  i might also be talking about body control and balance.

I'm actually at a loss trying to think of another high-major power forward who I've seen bounce higher.

[j-dub]

this is one of those rare times i agree with rusty.

wally sucks. do not want back.

you probably wish we had lou and energy back

i only pray to the heavens that jake wins 6 more games or however many it is he needs to pass those losers.

beyond embarrassing having those two as our wpoat

[sys]

No one has it all.  But you're wrong on most of those counts according to NBA draft analysts.  They don't rate him highly based on skill.

i don't think any nba draft analysts currently rate him highly.  some people looked at him in high school and aau and thought that he was a better athlete than he is.  after playing a year and a half of college bball, it became apparent that he lacks either the strength, the balance or the bounce to do anything overly athletic in traffic.

jumping off one foot with a ten foot warmup run is a pretty useless skill for a 6'8" pf.

[chum1]

No one has it all.  But you're wrong on most of those counts according to NBA draft analysts.  They don't rate him highly based on skill.

i don't think any nba draft analysts currently rate him highly.  some people looked at him in high school and aau and thought that he was a better athlete than he is.  after playing a year and a half of college bball, it became apparent that he lacks either the strength, the balance or the bounce to do anything overly athletic in traffic.

jumping off one foot with a ten foot warmup run is a pretty useless skill for a 6'8" pf.

I think he's dropped in the rankings more because of his inability to acquire skills at a normal rate.  They knew what they were dealing with physically from the beginning and there are plenty of weak, skinny players in the NBA.  Back to the colloquial use of the word "athleticism," though:

Judge's NBA potential, much like his production was as a freshman, is tied to his jaw-dropping athleticism. Blessed with outstanding leaping ability, long arms, and solid quickness, Judge is an NBA caliber athlete, and then some.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Wally-Judge-5686/

As an aside, it seems like some of the point guard talk similarly loses something in translation between those who follow the NBA and those who don't.

[sys]

there are plenty of weak, skinny players in the NBA.

maybe it isn't an issue of strength?  i offered that up as one possibility, but i don't think it is the most logical explanation for the gap between judge's athleticism hype and his ability to make athletic plays.

regardless of the underlying reason, i don't see how anyone that watched judge play a fair bit could consider him outstandingly athletic for a high-major college basketball player.  the three big 12 pfs in recent memory that stand out to me as way above average athletes are blake griffin, juan pattillo and perry jones.  in each of their cases, i don't think you had to watch them play for more than a half before you'd see them do something extraordinarily athletic.  in a year and a half, i never saw judge do anything extraordinarily athletic.

[BigCat]

there are plenty of weak, skinny players in the NBA.

maybe it isn't an issue of strength?  i offered that up as one possibility, but i don't think it is the most logical explanation for the gap between judge's athleticism hype and his ability to make athletic plays.

regardless of the underlying reason, i don't see how anyone that watched judge play a fair bit could consider him outstandingly athletic for a high-major college basketball player.  the three big 12 pfs in recent memory that stand out to me as way above average athletes are blake griffin, juan pattillo and perry jones.  in each of their cases, i don't think you had to watch them play for more than a half before you'd see them do something extraordinarily athletic.  in a year and a half, i never saw judge do anything extraordinarily athletic.

Cannot disagree with most of this but his athleticism has been held back by a stunning lack of confidence and PT. Also he is not anywhere near 6'8".

[ChiComCat]

Wally sucked while here and I don't know why people defend him.  If we are Wally's UConn, good for him for finding success wherever he goes.  He clearly will not find it here.  He is not a player who is mentally strong enough to work under Frank.  I don't want him back, as I think his pussy attitudes undercut an overall mentally strong team.

[chum1]

i don't see how anyone that watched judge play a fair bit could consider him outstandingly athletic for a high-major college basketball player. 

It's because, given the way these people are using the word "athletic," athleticism isn't measured on the court.  It's measured in units like inches and seconds.  For you, it seems more like "good athlete" simply means good basketball player.  In that case, he's not a good athlete trivially because he's not a good basketball player, right?

There are also further distinctions to make.  You can imagine someone with more basketball ability than anyone else in the world (whatever that is) simply not being interested in playing basketball.  You can shove him out on the court, but if he doesn't try due to lack of interest, he just runs up and down and doesn't appear to be a good basketball player and maybe isn't one.  Isn't something like this the best explanation for Judge?  He quit.  How much interest can he have?

[sonofdaxjones]

The Wally Judge Challenge:   If he plays again, can he go for more than 1 minute 37 seconds without having 2 fouls??

But at this time Wally is a full blown FP/TC and FRANKly, I hope he walked in one day and found his locker clean out with a note that mentions something about a Waffle House and crossing the Rubicon.

[wetwillie]

I didn't realize wally had some of you so butthurt, he's gone and he isn't coming back so why are you mad?

[pissclams]

I think that when people say that, they're usually talking about things you're more or less born with like speed, agility, and leaping ability.  Things like having good hands and passing well seem more like acquired skills.

thanks, chum1.  i think when i say that he's not a great athlete, i'm usually talking about him not being particularly strong, fast, agile or bouncy compared to other high-major power forwards.  i might also be talking about body control and balance.

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Is Wally big (tall) enough to play the 4 in the NBA?  Not referring to what kstatesports lists him as. 

yeah, he has a great body.

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[chum1]

I didn't realize wally had some of you so butthurt, he's gone and he isn't coming back so why are you mad?

seems more like frustration that someone who was tabbed as having a lot of potential was kind of a huge bust.  not sure butthurt is the right description for that.

[Rage Against the McKee]

I didn't realize wally had some of you so butthurt, he's gone and he isn't coming back so why are you mad?

I just get pissed when K-State fans say they want a player who is no better than just about any 3* JuCo transfer to come back. I don't want a player who we all know is shitty eating up a scholarship for 2 more years.

[Dugout DickStone]

I didn't realize wally had some of you so butthurt, he's gone and he isn't coming back so why are you mad?

I just get pissed when K-State fans say they want a player who is no better than just about any 3* JuCo transfer to come back. I don't want a player who we all know is cacty eating up a scholarship for 2 more years.

I'd liked to have seen him get some time to develop like JHR has and if he sucks, Frank could "buy in or quit" him.  No biggie now but he could have provided some pretty high end depth...if he was willing to be a man and not let some girl ruin his career.