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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #25650 on: December 13, 2020, 10:33:06 PM »
they always want to come back  :rolleyes:

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« Reply #25651 on: December 13, 2020, 11:20:59 PM »
Our RB room is pretty crowded if Ervin comes back.
what? a crowded RB room is 4 stud RBs all with ability to play right now at a high level.
KSU has 1 RB. Thats it
KSU might have the least crowded RB room in america

Jesus Christ give it a rest. We have a freshman all american and you're bitching about that. The point, you dullard, is that he probably wouldn't want to transfer from a situation when we was behind a stud junior to one where he's behind a stud freshman.
I'm not bitching about Deuce. But having 1 good RB does not equate to having a crowded RB room. KSU literally has 1 RB they trust. Thats the opposite of a crowded RB room. Almost any credible P5 RB is capable of coming to KSU and splitting carries with our starter right away.

K-State has one running back that they trust? You breaking some news here, kashi?
i dont know what you mean? Next year they will have Deuce and a couple guys they never let see the field this year. They obviously dont like Burns or Jacardia. They like Deuce and thats it. Any credible P5 RB could come here next year and split carries with Deuce. There is literally no other RB in his way unless Ervin returns and is significantly better than all the RBs we had this year other than deuce. i haven't heard Ervin returning so i'm leaving him out for now. even then 2 RBs is not adequate for a P5 school

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« Reply #25652 on: December 14, 2020, 08:41:11 AM »
I thought Earvin showed some real flashes of explosiveness last year but he's tiny too.

Need some kind of between the tackles tough yards guy to compliment deuce.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #25653 on: December 14, 2020, 09:45:53 AM »
didn't Jarcadia have 100+ yards against Iowa State?

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« Reply #25654 on: December 14, 2020, 09:47:16 AM »
didn't Jarcadia have 100+ yards against Iowa State?

my memory failed me. 6 carries for 60 yards

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2019-11-30-kansas-state.html

also skylar was 5-12 for 57 yards LMAO

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« Reply #25655 on: December 14, 2020, 09:48:29 AM »
didn't Jarcadia have 100+ yards against Iowa State?

my memory failed me. 6 carries for 60 yards

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2019-11-30-kansas-state.html

also skylar was 5-12 for 57 yards LMAO

I'm assuming that Jacardia is gonzo

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« Reply #25656 on: December 14, 2020, 10:05:53 AM »
Yea that’s a good assumption.  Disappointed the coaches couldn’t get him over the hump developmentally.
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #25657 on: December 14, 2020, 12:32:55 PM »
get him over the hump developmentally?

there was no spring practice.

He is a redshirt Freshman...

what on earth is happening here?
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« Reply #25658 on: December 14, 2020, 02:26:47 PM »
We need depth, but there is no down or distance that I want anyone but Deuce on the field. I don't see it as an indictment of the ability of the players the coaches didn't put on the field when Deuce was available.

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« Reply #25659 on: December 14, 2020, 02:53:25 PM »
didn't Jarcadia have 100+ yards against Iowa State?

my memory failed me. 6 carries for 60 yards

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/boxscores/2019-11-30-kansas-state.html

also skylar was 5-12 for 57 yards LMAO

I'm assuming that Jacardia is gonzo

I'm not basing this on anything other than lack of playing time at a thin position.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #25660 on: December 14, 2020, 03:13:02 PM »
get him over the hump developmentally?

there was no spring practice.

He is a redshirt Freshman...

what on earth is happening here?

A guy in year two of the system can’t even get mop up duty because they trust him so little.  I know Deuce is an anomaly but he was light years ahead of Jacardia with one less year under his belt.   A good staff should be able to figure out ways to get guys like Jacardia and Tyrone Lewis on the field over former walk ons like Trotter and Elder.
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #25661 on: December 14, 2020, 03:19:03 PM »
I wouldn't say our RB room is crowded. We have a legit future all-conference RB and then several young guys who didn't see the field at all this year. 

Who knows if Ky would come here, but I think there's plenty of room for another good RB on our roster.


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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #25662 on: December 14, 2020, 03:42:56 PM »
If we have excess good running backs, make one the quarterback.

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« Reply #25663 on: December 14, 2020, 04:19:47 PM »
I wouldn't say our RB room is crowded. We have a legit future all-conference RB and then several young guys who didn't see the field at all this year. 

Who knows if Ky would come here, but I think there's plenty of room for another good RB on our roster.

Yeah, I think that too, everyone does. The point was that if Ky is going to leave Minnesota, because he isn't happy with his role, this might not be the best option if you're comparing it with the situation he's rumored to be possibly leaving.

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« Reply #25664 on: December 14, 2020, 08:49:09 PM »
I wouldn't say our RB room is crowded. We have a legit future all-conference RB and then several young guys who didn't see the field at all this year. 

Who knows if Ky would come here, but I think there's plenty of room for another good RB on our roster.

Yeah, I think that too, everyone does. The point was that if Ky is going to leave Minnesota, because he isn't happy with his role, this might not be the best option if you're comparing it with the situation he's rumored to be possibly leaving.
im not that familiar with the minnesota RB room. I know their starter is a complete stud. But i dont think you could find many P5 programs with a worse RB room than KSU. Yes Deuce will be the starter but thats all we got. NOTHING after that. can anyone name another school that literally has 1 legit RB on their roster? maybe KU since pooka left. but its rare. Ky thomas probably wont be the starter anywhere in P5. given that fact, the best place to be #2 might be KSU

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #25665 on: December 14, 2020, 09:10:45 PM »
I bet there is more than one P5 team with worse running backs than us

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« Reply #25666 on: December 14, 2020, 09:11:49 PM »
I bet there is more than one P5 team with worse running backs than us

We arent even the worse in our own conference
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« Reply #25667 on: December 14, 2020, 10:14:10 PM »
I bet there is more than one P5 team with worse running backs than us

We arent even the worse in our own conference
Yeah, but we're trending down. A lot of valid reasons for it but still...not the best "rising program" pitch. 

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #25668 on: December 14, 2020, 10:18:59 PM »
Our running backs are trending down?

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« Reply #25669 on: December 14, 2020, 10:19:49 PM »
I bet there is more than one P5 team with worse running backs than us

We arent even the worse in our own conference
Yeah, but we're trending down. A lot of valid reasons for it but still...not the best "rising program" pitch. 

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2019 we entered the spring with 0 scholarship running backs and ended 2020 season with an All American RB that was a true freshman. Not certain we are trending down my man.
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« Reply #25670 on: December 14, 2020, 10:37:54 PM »
Program-wise we're trending down, and I'm not sure you can toss Deuce up to program development. I'm just saying that matters in recruiting additional talent.

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« Reply #25671 on: December 15, 2020, 02:43:00 AM »
Program-wise we're trending down, and I'm not sure you can toss Deuce up to program development. I'm just saying that matters in recruiting additional talent.

How so?

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« Reply #25672 on: December 15, 2020, 10:21:06 AM »
Program-wise we're trending down, and I'm not sure you can toss Deuce up to program development. I'm just saying that matters in recruiting additional talent.
deuce should be good for recruiting. No program uses a single RB any more so recruits are used to a little competition. Deuce's yards from scrimmage were #2 in america, i believe. and thats behind 5 new starters on the OL
that SHOULD BE a really good selling tool for RB recruiting. But as we know it is for some reason very difficult to attract top RBs to manhattan even for offenses that feature RBs.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #25673 on: December 15, 2020, 10:43:19 AM »
holy hell the analysis of our RB situation is literally one of the stupidest things i have ever read

trending down?

lack of development?

there was no spring practice and the regular season was frought with covid issues that decimated position groups and practice plans


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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #25674 on: December 15, 2020, 10:47:05 AM »
Our RB room is fine.  But I think there is room for 10-15 carries/gm next season for RBs not named Deuce Vaughn.  That's not really either "unhealthy" or "packed."  If Thomas wants 20-25 carries/gm moving forward, he shouldn't come here.  If he's fine with 10-20, then I think we're probably as good an option as any. 


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