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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14700 on: January 22, 2014, 11:07:55 AM »
just as i'm ok with a player pulling a commitment and looking elsewhere, i'm totally fine with a school pulling an offer if a commit decides to start looking around again.

This.

Do you guys not know the difference or just refusing to see the difference?
I'd be interested in hearing you parse the difference.

Yes. Hit me with some knowledge, MIR. I suppose I'm refusing to see it. :dunno:

Well first of all the school makes dozens of offers every single season. A kid gets to pick a school either once or twice, for a 17 year old it is the most important, impactful decision they have made time that point in their lives. To a coach its just another scholarship to fill.

If it turns out to be a bad fit the kid has to beg out of the commitment and hope he is granted a release so that he can go somewhere else and go on scholarship while he sits out a year or two just because he selected what turned out to be a bad fit. If the coach or the ad doesn't allow the kid to go where he wants then he can't get scholarshipped see Bryce Brown.  The messed up part is that if the coach decides he doesn't want the kid anymore he can just dump him without any penalty at all. If the coach decides he wants to leave he can leave again without penalty. A letter of intent binds the player for 4 years, it binds the school for a semester.

The system is completely tilted to favor the school and screw the athlete. If coaches don't want teenagers to flake out they shouldn't pressure them to make like altering decisions and then have to sit on that decision for months all while other coaches are telling him why his decision was wrong. These early commitments are 100% self serving for the coaches and schools and serves no benefit to the kid. The schools have the power to make decommitments less common but they are all rushing to fill their classes. If they have to do that then fine but I don't think its right to expect teenagers to be held to the same standard of 40, 50, 60, 70 year old men when the kids are the ones who are being rushed into these decisions.

it's a good post, but to be fair i'd like to point out the difference between an offer, a committment and then actually signing with a school. most of what mir posted about is after signing and yeah i agree it is way favored towards the school. it would be like divorce laws where the man gets everything every time or something similar. the set up seems unfair and should be changed.

the situation that kstate and sharp are in right now is completely different. they are basically engaged or whatever and sharp is getting cold feet and facebook messaging an old co-worker. kstate has every right in the world to say if you go visit then we are done. i personally don't agree w/ it tactically and think bill is being incredibly dumb here, but there is no ink on the contract and still a free for all so whatever on the moralities of it. basically, if sharp sees a better option before they walk down the aisle and wants to call it off then so be it, but kstate isn't morally obligated to sit around at home offering to be his DD if he can't pick up at the bar or if his date goes bad. again i don't agree with it from a tactical standpoint but morally sure. geese/gander, etc.
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14701 on: January 22, 2014, 11:33:46 AM »
I think we all can agree that the NCAA rules favor the coaches/institutions but screw the athletes. The issue I have is that Sharp made us stop recruiting QBs and then left us.  A lot of coaches probably do worse but that part is frustrating.  Not saying I hate Sharp or wish him any ill will, but his condition was no back up plan and the end result is detrimental to our program beyond just losing a commit.

Still hope Bill comes around and we get him.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14702 on: January 22, 2014, 11:39:37 AM »
Still hope Bill comes around and we get him.

it wouldn't absolutely shock this ksu fan, chicat. that's for sure.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14703 on: January 22, 2014, 11:51:28 AM »
Sorry, I missed the Wallace/Sharp interview. Is there a link somewhere?

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14704 on: January 22, 2014, 01:16:52 PM »
It's safe to say we can officially move on from Aaron Sharp.

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Lol, it's funny because I got on this thing once, and can't find my way off ....smh. Not one time did you hear me say it's the K state coaches fault Aaron didn't stay with K state. I did say the coaches moved on, and I believe they did right after Aaron asked to visit UCLA, but Aaron still had to make a decision. I believe it did force him to choose out of the other schools, but it wasn't the K state coaches fault. Don't make it seem like I'm pointing fingers at those coaches because I'm not....they are great coaches and I enjoyed the small relationship we developed. Im not on here because I feel guilty of Aaron decommitment....not at all, kids Decommit all the time, 3 and 4 times. Am I saying it's a good thing, NO, but it happens. Recruiting is a very difficult process, and I'm glad it's over for us, especially Aaron, because he was stressed. Some people say it's better to get just a couple of offers instead of so many....so again, Aaron had no bad feelings about K state, I just feel when he chose Utah, I should have let him stay with them because obviously he really likes the PAC-12....and for some that are saying he won't play QB at UCLA, no one knows Aaron's plan but God....we are just blessed his education will be paid for, and that's #1...again Good luck to K state because you guys have an awesome program! And pray for Aaron and our family...I will deactivate this account so I can stay off of it...????
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« Reply #14705 on: January 22, 2014, 01:17:53 PM »
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14706 on: January 22, 2014, 01:18:08 PM »
yeah and basically all the replies are people talking crap and telling them to leave. well okay then.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14707 on: January 22, 2014, 01:19:32 PM »
Our fans are worse than Nebraska fans. I'm not joking.  :frown:

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« Reply #14708 on: January 22, 2014, 01:20:50 PM »
Our fans are worse than Nebraska fans. I'm not joking.  :frown:

Dammit.  Yes.  :curse:

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« Reply #14709 on: January 22, 2014, 01:22:58 PM »
 :frown: I want to fight those assholes that were mean to Mrs. Sharp  :shakesfist:

knock those mother effers off their effing high pony

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14710 on: January 22, 2014, 01:23:37 PM »


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Lol, it's funny because I got on this thing once, and can't find my way off ....smh. Not one time did you hear me say it's the K state coaches fault Aaron didn't stay with K state. I did say the coaches moved on, and I believe they did right after Aaron asked to visit UCLA, but Aaron still had to make a decision. I believe it did force him to choose out of the other schools, but it wasn't the K state coaches fault. Don't make it seem like I'm pointing fingers at those coaches because I'm not....they are great coaches and I enjoyed the small relationship we developed. Im not on here because I feel guilty of Aaron decommitment....not at all, kids Decommit all the time, 3 and 4 times. Am I saying it's a good thing, NO, but it happens. Recruiting is a very difficult process, and I'm glad it's over for us, especially Aaron, because he was stressed. Some people say it's better to get just a couple of offers instead of so many....so again, Aaron had no bad feelings about K state, I just feel when he chose Utah, I should have let him stay with them because obviously he really likes the PAC-12....and for some that are saying he won't play QB at UCLA, no one knows Aaron's plan but God....we are just blessed his education will be paid for, and that's #1...again Good luck to K state because you guys have an awesome program! And pray for Aaron and our family...I will deactivate this account so I can stay off of it...????
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This should be next to the definition of "taking the high road".

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« Reply #14711 on: January 22, 2014, 01:24:23 PM »
Aaron's mom is a class act. Congrats to her and her family.


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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14712 on: January 22, 2014, 01:26:06 PM »
she was super nice in every post. happy to share the ins and outs of his recruiting and where he was in the process. said she preferred KSU but he had to make up his own mind. just a fantastic person. and our GPC fans crap all over her. repeatedly.

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14713 on: January 22, 2014, 01:26:38 PM »
Shaun Wilson isn't visiting.


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« Reply #14714 on: January 22, 2014, 01:27:40 PM »
she was super nice in every post. happy to share the ins and outs of his recruiting and where he was in the process. said she preferred KSU but he had to make up his own mind. just a fantastic person. and our GPC fans crap all over her. repeatedly.

Those fools are a effing disgrace.  They think that since they pay 10 bucks a month that they can say whatever they want without a moral conscious?!?!  I hope their dicks fall off for being such an effing dick.
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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14715 on: January 22, 2014, 01:28:32 PM »
Shaun Wilson isn't visiting.
:frown: I wanted him.

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« Reply #14716 on: January 22, 2014, 01:48:32 PM »
Shaun Wilson isn't visiting.
:frown: I wanted him.
If true, that is like the third time he has canceled a visit.

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« Reply #14717 on: January 22, 2014, 01:49:47 PM »
according to DJamer Wally, it's because snyder is "taking the high road" and breaking it off because he wants the kid to be able to pursue the opportunity of going to duke.

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« Reply #14718 on: January 22, 2014, 01:52:08 PM »
according to DJamer Wally, it's because snyder is "taking the high road" and breaking it off because he wants the kid to be able to pursue the opportunity of going to duke.

omg :lol:

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« Reply #14719 on: January 22, 2014, 01:53:38 PM »
according to DJamer Wally, it's because snyder is "taking the high road" and breaking it off because he wants the kid to be able to pursue the opportunity of going to duke.

omg :lol:

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Re: Football Recruiting Thread
« Reply #14720 on: January 22, 2014, 01:54:06 PM »
he's trolling

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In the end, in a wise, mature, and humble move that will surprise no Wildcat fan, LHC Bill Snyder made the executive call to step aside and leave Wilson be.

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So, LHC Bill Snyder being LHC Bill Snyder, elected not to ruin a good thing for a promising individual. With so much up in the air on both sides, Wilson and the K-State staff mutually agreed for him to finish his recruitment by sticking with the 2013 ACC runner-up and reminded the running back that they indeed valued his talent and his recruitment all along.

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Class move by K-State all around too. Some programs don't mind stringing a prospect along, potentially risking a relationship and opportunity for a recruit along the way. Clearly that's not the case with the man in charge at Vanier.

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« Reply #14721 on: January 22, 2014, 02:00:25 PM »
she was super nice in every post. happy to share the ins and outs of his recruiting and where he was in the process. said she preferred KSU but he had to make up his own mind. just a fantastic person. and our GPC fans crap all over her. repeatedly.

I'm close to ending my two year hiatus and go over there and napalm the place

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« Reply #14722 on: January 22, 2014, 02:02:50 PM »
What is all this garbage:

Shawn Wichman ?@shawn63200 1h

@call_me_WALLACE Snyder and Dickey are making a visit today for a HUGE last target.

I'm sure we don't want to ruin this kids good options elsewhere.

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« Reply #14723 on: January 22, 2014, 02:04:05 PM »
she was super nice in every post. happy to share the ins and outs of his recruiting and where he was in the process. said she preferred KSU but he had to make up his own mind. just a fantastic person. and our GPC fans crap all over her. repeatedly.

are any mods doing anything?
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« Reply #14724 on: January 22, 2014, 02:05:49 PM »
What is all this garbage:

Shawn Wichman ?@shawn63200 1h

@call_me_WALLACE Snyder and Dickey are making a visit today for a HUGE last target.

I'm sure we don't want to ruin this kids good options elsewhere.
What kid?
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