Football Recruiting Thread

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

The difference is why in the eff would we pull his offer you idiots? To show him who's boss? Well, good job fuckheads. You sure showed him! Now onto the most pressing remaining need in this recruiting class, the gaping hole at QB.

LOL, no

[i poo crabs]

Shaun Wilson visiting this weekend. didn't crabby say something about that? can't find it.

this is what crabby wrote on jan 17.  you're welcome

I would keep a close eye on Shaun Wilson (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/163581/shaun-wilson). The four-star RB is slated to visit next weekend. Would expect there to be 10 or so visitors by the time the list is filled out. But Wilson would be a heck of steal to compliment Warmack. Wilson is more of a all-purpose type of back that can be used as a slot WR or even in return game.

[Katpappy]

just as i'm ok with a player pulling a commitment and looking elsewhere, i'm totally fine with a school pulling an offer if a commit decides to start looking around again.

Same here, but in this situation, I don't feel like we should have gone this route.  The parents wanted him at KSU, and was actively trying to contact the coaches apparently.  I get why they did, I just feel it's a rough ridin' stupid thing to do with Sharp, considering he's really good and important to the class.

You're to young to realize this, but that is what happened to recruiting in '04-'05.  They went after the 4-5 star kids and the young little twerps looked elsewhere just before signing.  Snyder said he will not make those mistakes again, because they left us with shitty choices to choose from due to lack of time.  So should they move on if a athlete wants to look elsewhere?  I'll let you decide that.     

Fair point, but Sharp was already committed.  We had a decent chance to keep him AND his mom was actively trying to contact the coaches.  It would've been fine to look at other options at the same time, but I don't think you just give up on keeping him.

That was bullshit and you know it.  We're not pulling offers to athletes that want to be here.  Also, those athletes were offered and flew the coop just before signing.  Do you remember what our records were in '04 and '05, and do you see us repeating that. 

[Jackstack99EMAW]

just as i'm ok with a player pulling a commitment and looking elsewhere, i'm totally fine with a school pulling an offer if a commit decides to start looking around again.

Same here, but in this situation, I don't feel like we should have gone this route.  The parents wanted him at KSU, and was actively trying to contact the coaches apparently.  I get why they did, I just feel it's a rough ridin' stupid thing to do with Sharp, considering he's really good and important to the class.

You're to young to realize this, but that is what happened to recruiting in '04-'05.  They went after the 4-5 star kids and the young little twerps looked elsewhere just before signing.  Snyder said he will not make those mistakes again, because they left us with shitty choices to choose from due to lack of time.  So should they move on if a athlete wants to look elsewhere?  I'll let you decide that.     

Fair point, but Sharp was already committed.  We had a decent chance to keep him AND his mom was actively trying to contact the coaches.  It would've been fine to look at other options at the same time, but I don't think you just give up on keeping him.

That was bullshit and you know it.  We're not pulling offers to athletes that want to be here.  Also, those athletes were offered and flew the coop just before signing.  Do you remember what our records were in '04 and '05, and do you see us repeating that.

It's the coaches' jobs to make athletes want to come here.  Sharp had been committed for 9 months, if you can't make him want to come here, you are likely not very good at your job as proven by KState staff in the past.  Why would his mom saying she sent emails to the coaches be bullshit?  And because we had bad years in 04 and 05, we stop recruiting a very accurate and fast QB?  No, you keep on him and look at backup options at the same time.

[Katpappy]

just as i'm ok with a player pulling a commitment and looking elsewhere, i'm totally fine with a school pulling an offer if a commit decides to start looking around again.

Same here, but in this situation, I don't feel like we should have gone this route.  The parents wanted him at KSU, and was actively trying to contact the coaches apparently.  I get why they did, I just feel it's a rough ridin' stupid thing to do with Sharp, considering he's really good and important to the class.

You're to young to realize this, but that is what happened to recruiting in '04-'05.  They went after the 4-5 star kids and the young little twerps looked elsewhere just before signing.  Snyder said he will not make those mistakes again, because they left us with shitty choices to choose from due to lack of time.  So should they move on if a athlete wants to look elsewhere?  I'll let you decide that.     

Fair point, but Sharp was already committed.  We had a decent chance to keep him AND his mom was actively trying to contact the coaches.  It would've been fine to look at other options at the same time, but I don't think you just give up on keeping him.

That was bullshit and you know it.  We're not pulling offers to athletes that want to be here.  Also, those athletes were offered and flew the coop just before signing.  Do you remember what our records were in '04 and '05, and do you see us repeating that.

It's the coaches' jobs to make athletes want to come here.  Sharp had been committed for 9 months, if you can't make him want to come here, you are likely not very good at your job as proven by KState staff in the past.  Why would his mom saying she sent emails to the coaches be bullshit?  And because we had bad years in 04 and 05, we stop recruiting a very accurate and fast QB?  No, you keep on him and look at backup options at the same time.

Is your reading compensation at a 5th grade level.  We got recruits before that went looking late in the game and we tried to keep them.  Now please read slowly, because when you hang on the lookie lews and don't move on, you will get burnt.  Don't you think our coaches, making hundreds of thousands of dollars, aren't smart enough to not fall into the same trap, because Snyder isn't going to let that happen.  When you're a football coach at a BCS level school, then maybe I'll listen to your take on how recruiting should be done.

[Jackstack99EMAW]

just as i'm ok with a player pulling a commitment and looking elsewhere, i'm totally fine with a school pulling an offer if a commit decides to start looking around again.

Same here, but in this situation, I don't feel like we should have gone this route.  The parents wanted him at KSU, and was actively trying to contact the coaches apparently.  I get why they did, I just feel it's a rough ridin' stupid thing to do with Sharp, considering he's really good and important to the class.

You're to young to realize this, but that is what happened to recruiting in '04-'05.  They went after the 4-5 star kids and the young little twerps looked elsewhere just before signing.  Snyder said he will not make those mistakes again, because they left us with shitty choices to choose from due to lack of time.  So should they move on if a athlete wants to look elsewhere?  I'll let you decide that.     

Fair point, but Sharp was already committed.  We had a decent chance to keep him AND his mom was actively trying to contact the coaches.  It would've been fine to look at other options at the same time, but I don't think you just give up on keeping him.

That was bullshit and you know it.  We're not pulling offers to athletes that want to be here.  Also, those athletes were offered and flew the coop just before signing.  Do you remember what our records were in '04 and '05, and do you see us repeating that.

It's the coaches' jobs to make athletes want to come here.  Sharp had been committed for 9 months, if you can't make him want to come here, you are likely not very good at your job as proven by KState staff in the past.  Why would his mom saying she sent emails to the coaches be bullshit?  And because we had bad years in 04 and 05, we stop recruiting a very accurate and fast QB?  No, you keep on him and look at backup options at the same time.

Is your reading compensation at a 5th grade level.  We got recruits before that went looking late in the game and we tried to keep them.  Now please read slowly, because when you hang on the lookie lews and don't move on, you will get burnt.  Don't you think our coaches, making hundreds of thousands of dollars, aren't smart enough to not fall into the same trap, because Snyder isn't going to let that happen.  When you're a football coach at a BCS level school, then maybe I'll listen to your take on how recruiting should be done.

You've been a gigantic douchebag tuck lately and this post further proves it.  Ron Prince was getting paid millions and had no rough ridin' clue what he was doing.  "Once you're a BCS level coach..." Classic tuck talking point.  So what do you think we should've done with Sharp, given up on him and go for someone worse?  I wonder when you're gonna start the "doesn't have the intangibles" bullshit. 

[sunny_cat]

[WildcatNation]

 

Shaun Wilson visiting this weekend. didn't crabby say something about that? can't find it.

this is what crabby wrote on jan 17.  you're welcome

I would keep a close eye on Shaun Wilson (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/_/id/163581/shaun-wilson). The four-star RB is slated to visit next weekend. Would expect there to be 10 or so visitors by the time the list is filled out. But Wilson would be a heck of steal to compliment Warmack. Wilson is more of a all-purpose type of back that can be used as a slot WR or even in return game.

Who would be the other ten visiting? Seems like a lot this late and with how many scholarships we have.

[HerrSonntag]

I don't imagine  we actively would have pulled Sharp's scholly.   i think any perceived lack of communication could also be perceived as not wanting to validate wandering eyes by emailing back "Its ok, you fly wherever you want and ol' papa bill will be here waiting with a warm smile and a hot mug of chamomile tea."

[DQ12]

The difference is why in the eff would we pull his offer you idiots? To show him who's boss? Well, good job fuckheads. You sure showed him! Now onto the most pressing remaining need in this recruiting class, the gaping hole at QB.

Well yeah.  I was interested in reading what I would assume was some kind of a moral argument by MIR.

[Jackstack99EMAW]

I don't imagine  we actively would have pulled Sharp's scholly.   i think any perceived lack of communication could also be perceived as not wanting to validate wandering eyes by emailing back "Its ok, you fly wherever you want and ol' papa bill will be here waiting with a warm smile and a hot mug of chamomile tea."

I know it's extremely unlikely that we did pull the scholly, but it's pretty clear we didn't make much of a push to keep him, which I disagree with.

[Katpappy]

I don't imagine  we actively would have pulled Sharp's scholly.   i think any perceived lack of communication could also be perceived as not wanting to validate wandering eyes by emailing back "Its ok, you fly wherever you want and ol' papa bill will be here waiting with a warm smile and a hot mug of chamomile tea."

HerrSonntag gets it.   Why don't you, Jack!

[Katpappy]

The difference is why in the eff would we pull his offer you idiots? To show him who's boss? Well, good job fuckheads. You sure showed him! Now onto the most pressing remaining need in this recruiting class, the gaping hole at QB.

I don't think most posters on this thread think we pulled his offer.  Only we went looking for a backup before it's too late.  Only sad part is it may be too late.

[Jackstack99EMAW]

I don't imagine  we actively would have pulled Sharp's scholly.   i think any perceived lack of communication could also be perceived as not wanting to validate wandering eyes by emailing back "Its ok, you fly wherever you want and ol' papa bill will be here waiting with a warm smile and a hot mug of chamomile tea."

HerrSonntag gets it.   Why don't you, Jack!

I do get it, and we've had this conversation earlier in the thread, I get it's a strategy they used, I simply believe it's a stupid one to use with a recruit as good as Sharp and when his mom claims she was sending emails to the coach, there was pretty much nothing to lose if you go hard after Sharp and then go to a backup plan if you don't get him, they didn't do the first and we're not sure if there is a backup plan.  They shouldn't have promised to not look at other QBs in the first place. 

[Katpappy]

I don't imagine  we actively would have pulled Sharp's scholly.   i think any perceived lack of communication could also be perceived as not wanting to validate wandering eyes by emailing back "Its ok, you fly wherever you want and ol' papa bill will be here waiting with a warm smile and a hot mug of chamomile tea."

I know it's extremely unlikely that we did pull the scholly, but it's pretty clear we didn't make much of a push to keep him, which I disagree with.

I guess you don't get it.  This is what mumped us in '04 and '05.  Do you really think we are going to make the same mistakes.

[Jackstack99EMAW]

I don't imagine  we actively would have pulled Sharp's scholly.   i think any perceived lack of communication could also be perceived as not wanting to validate wandering eyes by emailing back "Its ok, you fly wherever you want and ol' papa bill will be here waiting with a warm smile and a hot mug of chamomile tea."

I know it's extremely unlikely that we did pull the scholly, but it's pretty clear we didn't make much of a push to keep him, which I disagree with.

I guess you don't get it.  This is what mumped us in '04 and '05.  Do you really think we are going to make the same mistakes.

Oh man, Katdaddy, finish the post please.  I also said we needed to have a backup plan in the first place and should have been looking way before at other options as well. 

[steve dave]

The difference is why in the eff would we pull his offer you idiots? To show him who's boss? Well, good job fuckheads. You sure showed him! Now onto the most pressing remaining need in this recruiting class, the gaping hole at QB.

Well yeah.  I was interested in reading what I would assume was some kind of a moral argument by MIR.

OK

[Boom Roasted]

This thread has become garbage with this theory crap

[Pendergast]

The difference is why in the eff would we pull his offer you idiots? To show him who's boss? Well, good job fuckheads. You sure showed him! Now onto the most pressing remaining need in this recruiting class, the gaping hole at QB.

Offer not pulled.  Mom's lying.  Pull head out.

[steve dave]

The difference is why in the eff would we pull his offer you idiots? To show him who's boss? Well, good job fuckheads. You sure showed him! Now onto the most pressing remaining need in this recruiting class, the gaping hole at QB.

Offer not pulled.  Mom's lying.  Pull head out.

I may know a bit more about the details of this than you do. And by "may" I mean "do".

[sunny_cat]

The difference is why in the eff would we pull his offer you idiots? To show him who's boss? Well, good job fuckheads. You sure showed him! Now onto the most pressing remaining need in this recruiting class, the gaping hole at QB.

Offer not pulled.  Mom's lying.  Pull head out.

I may know a bit more about the details of this than you do. And by "may" I mean "do".

:dropsmic:

[DeVere Kalmar]

So please help me out here. Right now, there are 20 commits if you count Dayton Valentine from last year. So, are there 5 slots left? Some said earlier Sizelove would grayshirt because of knee injury. So maybe 6 slots?

Just trying to figure out numbers. 

[Benja]

Sharps mom shouldnt have come on a message board and said that. I'm not sure what she was thinking, but I doubt she's lying. I'm not sure what our coaches are doing, but it appears that they really did just move on as soon as he said he was looking around. I do, though, think that Sharp wanted to go to ucla and the only way he'd stay with us is if they didn't offer. So it really doesn't matter anymore.

Weird move by our coaching staff that has either suddenly and somewhat strangely become extremely confident in their recruiting abilities or has something else planned. It's kind of unnerving when former WRSOAT starts making ballsy moves.

[Katpappy]

Sharps mom shouldnt have come on a message board and said that. I'm not sure what she was thinking, but I doubt she's lying. I'm not sure what our coaches are doing, but it appears that they really did just move on as soon as he said he was looking around. I do, though, think that Sharp wanted to go to ucla and the only way he'd stay with us is if they didn't offer. So it really doesn't matter anymore.

Weird move by our coaching staff that has either suddenly and somewhat strangely become extremely confident in their recruiting abilities or has something else planned. It's kind of unnerving when former WRSOAT starts making ballsy moves.

[Alpinist]

The difference is why in the eff would we pull his offer you idiots? To show him who's boss? Well, good job fuckheads. You sure showed him! Now onto the most pressing remaining need in this recruiting class, the gaping hole at QB.

Offer not pulled.  Mom's lying.  Pull head out.

I may know a bit more about the details of this than you do. And by "may" I mean "do".

So the offer was pulled, and the mom is lying?