Mainstream Economics Thread

[sonofdaxjones]

cRusty - I appreciate your anecdotes.

Australia for one has lodged the complaints, and no they haven't raised tariffs that I am aware of, and I am not going to take the time to look.

BTW - dumping is just one part of the whole equation.

If you live in a world where having a $1 trillion dollar plus annual trade deficit with the world is sustainable - while the US also provides collectively hundreds of billions of dollars of military protection for many of those countries. Then bravo to you sir for being so delusional.

[sonofdaxjones]

One would think that #neocongE would be a little chubbed up on the theory that this could be very debilitating to the Chinese Communist Government . . . and could lead to serious internal unrest and destabilization in China.

You guys love this kind of stuff . . . but apparently only when a Democrat is POTUS 

[michigancat]

One would think that #neocongE would be a little chubbed up on the theory that this could be very debilitating to the Chinese Communist Government . . . and could lead to serious internal unrest and destabilization in China.

You guys love this kind of stuff . . . but apparently only when a Democrat is POTUS 

I think this "strategy" hurts overall US/China relations more than it will damage China internally. We're like 15% of their exports and the president already caved with huge exceptions. In general I think it makes the world less stable/safe without doing much of anything to destabilize the PRC. (Again, is that a new goal?)

I generally dislike attempts at foreign government destabilization when democrats are presidents, too.

[sonofdaxjones]

One would think that #neocongE would be a little chubbed up on the theory that this could be very debilitating to the Chinese Communist Government . . . and could lead to serious internal unrest and destabilization in China.

You guys love this kind of stuff . . . but apparently only when a Democrat is POTUS 

I think this "strategy" hurts overall US/China relations more than it will damage China internally. We're like 15% of their exports and the president already caved with huge exceptions. In general I think it makes the world less stable/safe without doing much of anything to destabilize the PRC. (Again, is that a new goal?)

I generally dislike attempts at foreign government destabilization when democrats are presidents, too.

My post was directed at #neocongE - I don't consider you part of that resident cartel.

BTW - What has this administration said repeatedly about tariffs? Have they said they're going to implement them and then not be open to negotiations?  The point here is, the uniparty leadership of this country has constantly bitched and complained and then done nothing (check their donors list). 

[michigancat]

One would think that #neocongE would be a little chubbed up on the theory that this could be very debilitating to the Chinese Communist Government . . . and could lead to serious internal unrest and destabilization in China.

You guys love this kind of stuff . . . but apparently only when a Democrat is POTUS 

I think this "strategy" hurts overall US/China relations more than it will damage China internally. We're like 15% of their exports and the president already caved with huge exceptions. In general I think it makes the world less stable/safe without doing much of anything to destabilize the PRC. (Again, is that a new goal?)

I generally dislike attempts at foreign government destabilization when democrats are presidents, too.

My post was directed at #neocongE - I don't consider you part of that resident cartel.

BTW - What has this administration said repeatedly about tariffs? Have they said they're going to implement them and then not be open to negotiations?  The point here is, the uniparty leadership of this country has constantly bitched and complained and then done nothing (check their donors list). 

most of the time doing nothing is better than doing something in a very dumb and damaging way

[Stupid Fitz]

One would think that #neocongE would be a little chubbed up on the theory that this could be very debilitating to the Chinese Communist Government . . . and could lead to serious internal unrest and destabilization in China.

You guys love this kind of stuff . . . but apparently only when a Democrat is POTUS 

I think this "strategy" hurts overall US/China relations more than it will damage China internally. We're like 15% of their exports and the president already caved with huge exceptions. In general I think it makes the world less stable/safe without doing much of anything to destabilize the PRC. (Again, is that a new goal?)

I generally dislike attempts at foreign government destabilization when democrats are presidents, too.

My post was directed at #neocongE - I don't consider you part of that resident cartel.

BTW - What has this administration said repeatedly about tariffs? Have they said they're going to implement them and then not be open to negotiations?  The point here is, the uniparty leadership of this country has constantly bitched and complained and then done nothing (check their donors list). 

most of the time doing nothing is better than doing something in a very dumb and damaging way

That's just because you aren't willing to crush thousands/millions of people while you are completely insulated from the stupid decisions you are making for no reason.

[mocat]

One would think that #neocongE would be a little chubbed up on the theory that this could be very debilitating to the Chinese Communist Government . . . and could lead to serious internal unrest and destabilization in China.

You guys love this kind of stuff . . . but apparently only when a Democrat is POTUS 

I think this "strategy" hurts overall US/China relations more than it will damage China internally. We're like 15% of their exports and the president already caved with huge exceptions. In general I think it makes the world less stable/safe without doing much of anything to destabilize the PRC. (Again, is that a new goal?)

I generally dislike attempts at foreign government destabilization when democrats are presidents, too.

My post was directed at #neocongE - I don't consider you part of that resident cartel.

BTW - What has this administration said repeatedly about tariffs? Have they said they're going to implement them and then not be open to negotiations?  The point here is, the uniparty leadership of this country has constantly bitched and complained and then done nothing (check their donors list).

i would irl love to see a list of the various resident cartels and also a list of the various posters who are members of each resident cartel

[star seed 7]

One would think that #neocongE would be a little chubbed up on the theory that this could be very debilitating to the Chinese Communist Government . . . and could lead to serious internal unrest and destabilization in China.

You guys love this kind of stuff . . . but apparently only when a Democrat is POTUS 

I think this "strategy" hurts overall US/China relations more than it will damage China internally. We're like 15% of their exports and the president already caved with huge exceptions. In general I think it makes the world less stable/safe without doing much of anything to destabilize the PRC. (Again, is that a new goal?)

I generally dislike attempts at foreign government destabilization when democrats are presidents, too.

My post was directed at #neocongE - I don't consider you part of that resident cartel.

BTW - What has this administration said repeatedly about tariffs? Have they said they're going to implement them and then not be open to negotiations?  The point here is, the uniparty leadership of this country has constantly bitched and complained and then done nothing (check their donors list).

i would irl love to see a list of the various resident cartels and also a list of the various posters who are members of each resident cartel

Dax to kRusty - You guys love this stuff!

kRusty - no I don't

Dax - I didn't mean you!

[Dugout DickStone]

Viewers of this blog are reminded that the previous administration spent approximately $29 Trillion Dollars and artificially inflated payrolls with government hiring and government subsidized hiring.

this admin is still doing this though,

[bucket]

One would think that #neocongE would be a little chubbed up on the theory that this could be very debilitating to the Chinese Communist Government . . . and could lead to serious internal unrest and destabilization in China.

You guys love this kind of stuff . . . but apparently only when a Democrat is POTUS 

I think this "strategy" hurts overall US/China relations more than it will damage China internally. We're like 15% of their exports and the president already caved with huge exceptions. In general I think it makes the world less stable/safe without doing much of anything to destabilize the PRC. (Again, is that a new goal?)

I generally dislike attempts at foreign government destabilization when democrats are presidents, too.

My post was directed at #neocongE - I don't consider you part of that resident cartel.

BTW - What has this administration said repeatedly about tariffs? Have they said they're going to implement them and then not be open to negotiations?  The point here is, the uniparty leadership of this country has constantly bitched and complained and then done nothing (check their donors list).

i would irl love to see a list of the various resident cartels and also a list of the various posters who are members of each resident cartel

Yes, I was shocked to see that mich isn’t a member of neocon gE

[sonofdaxjones]

One would think that #neocongE would be a little chubbed up on the theory that this could be very debilitating to the Chinese Communist Government . . . and could lead to serious internal unrest and destabilization in China.

You guys love this kind of stuff . . . but apparently only when a Democrat is POTUS 

I think this "strategy" hurts overall US/China relations more than it will damage China internally. We're like 15% of their exports and the president already caved with huge exceptions. In general I think it makes the world less stable/safe without doing much of anything to destabilize the PRC. (Again, is that a new goal?)

I generally dislike attempts at foreign government destabilization when democrats are presidents, too.

My post was directed at #neocongE - I don't consider you part of that resident cartel.

BTW - What has this administration said repeatedly about tariffs? Have they said they're going to implement them and then not be open to negotiations?  The point here is, the uniparty leadership of this country has constantly bitched and complained and then done nothing (check their donors list).

i would irl love to see a list of the various resident cartels and also a list of the various posters who are members of each resident cartel

Dax to kRusty - You guys love this stuff!

kRusty - no I don't

Dax - I didn't mean you!

It was a stand alone post in response to no one in particular.

StalkerBot.7 - Pinnacle never going to get this blog and in a constant state of confusion (and deflection)

[sonofdaxjones]

Viewers of this blog are reminded that the previous administration spent approximately $29 Trillion Dollars and artificially inflated payrolls with government hiring and government subsidized hiring.

this admin is still doing this though,

The Federal Government set an all time borrowing record in the 1st qtr of FFY 2025.  Trump was not in office.  This is an inherited FFY.

[sonofdaxjones]

One would think that #neocongE would be a little chubbed up on the theory that this could be very debilitating to the Chinese Communist Government . . . and could lead to serious internal unrest and destabilization in China.

You guys love this kind of stuff . . . but apparently only when a Democrat is POTUS 

I think this "strategy" hurts overall US/China relations more than it will damage China internally. We're like 15% of their exports and the president already caved with huge exceptions. In general I think it makes the world less stable/safe without doing much of anything to destabilize the PRC. (Again, is that a new goal?)

I generally dislike attempts at foreign government destabilization when democrats are presidents, too.

My post was directed at #neocongE - I don't consider you part of that resident cartel.

BTW - What has this administration said repeatedly about tariffs? Have they said they're going to implement them and then not be open to negotiations?  The point here is, the uniparty leadership of this country has constantly bitched and complained and then done nothing (check their donors list). 

most of the time doing nothing is better than doing something in a very dumb and damaging way

This does not fit into the "most of the time" scenario.

Look I get it, you guys make all your stuff overseas.  They're mattresses, right?

This is pointed at #neocongE - We don't have the industrial capacity for an all out conventional war.  As it stands right now, if we get into a shooting war with China you can literally count the total depletion of some weapons in hours.  Not days, hours.

If China attacks Taiwan - we're literally going to blow up the most advance chip plants in the world because we don't want the ChiComs to get them.  I'd rather that capability be right here in our own country. 

Is it not a bit unnervering to think back to the middle of the pandemic and read all the stories about how we were utterly beholden to the country that created the virus for all kinds of supplies and pharmaceuticals? 

I have not seen or read a single person from this administration say we're transitioning from a service economy -  entirely to a manufacturing economy. 

$1.3 Trillion Dollar trade deficits are not sustainable.  Particularly so when a huge chunk of that goes to a Geo-strategic adversary nation.

[sonofdaxjones]

Just a note to those who have now joined the chorus of the market being the economy.

There are other market forces in play besides tariffs.

Like a giant defense contractor having to take a huge charge off.

I now return you to #blueanongE - The DerpConOne Experience

[michigancat]

Well said

https://x.com/jdcmedlock/status/1914819345492164860

[LickNeckey]

the dumb fuckery exhibited is kind of an everything everywhere all at once experience

[sonofdaxjones]

"making life worse for everyone"

First of all - we are still a nation that collectively lives at the pinnacle of first world problems. So this drama queening on that is positively fascinating to follow.

If (one example) "making life worse for everyone" means stopping USAID money laundering to connected #blueanon apparatchiks, then by all means, please continue.

If (second example) "making life worse for everyone" means stopping USAID money laundering to human trafficking NGO's  - purposely done to circumvent oversight and facilitate slight of hand illegal immigration.  Then by all means, please continue.

If (third example) "making life worse for everyone" mean stopping USAID funded domestic censorship campaigns - then by all means, please continue.

[OB_Won]

the dumb fuckery exhibited is kind of an everything everywhere all at once experience

Except to the dumb fucks that need to be experiencing it before it's too late.

[michigancat]

"making life worse for everyone"

First of all - we are still a nation that collectively lives at the pinnacle of first world problems. So this drama queening on that is positively fascinating to follow.

If (one example) "making life worse for everyone" means stopping USAID money laundering to connected #blueanon apparatchiks, then by all means, please continue.

If (second example) "making life worse for everyone" means stopping USAID money laundering to human trafficking NGO's  - purposely done to circumvent oversight and facilitate slight of hand illegal immigration.  Then by all means, please continue.

If (third example) "making life worse for everyone" mean stopping USAID funded domestic censorship campaigns - then by all means, please continue.

Whose life is improving from tariffs and DOGE?

[BIG APPLE CAT]

"making life worse for everyone"

First of all - we are still a nation that collectively lives at the pinnacle of first world problems. So this drama queening on that is positively fascinating to follow.

If (one example) "making life worse for everyone" means stopping USAID money laundering to connected #blueanon apparatchiks, then by all means, please continue.

If (second example) "making life worse for everyone" means stopping USAID money laundering to human trafficking NGO's  - purposely done to circumvent oversight and facilitate slight of hand illegal immigration.  Then by all means, please continue.

If (third example) "making life worse for everyone" mean stopping USAID funded domestic censorship campaigns - then by all means, please continue.

Whose life is improving from tariffs and DOGE?

Bigots who have not yet lost their jobs (either from getting DOGE’d or due to the market uncertainty as a result of all these tariffs)

[Trim]

One would think that #neocongE would be a little chubbed up on the theory that this could be very debilitating to the Chinese Communist Government . . . and could lead to serious internal unrest and destabilization in China.

You guys love this kind of stuff . . . but apparently only when a Democrat is POTUS 

I think this "strategy" hurts overall US/China relations more than it will damage China internally. We're like 15% of their exports and the president already caved with huge exceptions. In general I think it makes the world less stable/safe without doing much of anything to destabilize the PRC. (Again, is that a new goal?)

I generally dislike attempts at foreign government destabilization when democrats are presidents, too.

My post was directed at #neocongE - I don't consider you part of that resident cartel.

BTW - What has this administration said repeatedly about tariffs? Have they said they're going to implement them and then not be open to negotiations?  The point here is, the uniparty leadership of this country has constantly bitched and complained and then done nothing (check their donors list).

i would irl love to see a list of the various resident cartels and also a list of the various posters who are members of each resident cartel

Yes, I was shocked to see that mich isn’t a member of neocon gE

Venn diagrams?

[Dugout DickStone]

Viewers of this blog are reminded that the previous administration spent approximately $29 Trillion Dollars and artificially inflated payrolls with government hiring and government subsidized hiring.

this admin is still doing this though,

The Federal Government set an all time borrowing record in the 1st qtr of FFY 2025.  Trump was not in office.  This is an inherited FFY.

Well I guess we will see how this plays out.  Q2 will tell us the tale

[sonofdaxjones]

"making life worse for everyone"

First of all - we are still a nation that collectively lives at the pinnacle of first world problems. So this drama queening on that is positively fascinating to follow.

If (one example) "making life worse for everyone" means stopping USAID money laundering to connected #blueanon apparatchiks, then by all means, please continue.

If (second example) "making life worse for everyone" means stopping USAID money laundering to human trafficking NGO's  - purposely done to circumvent oversight and facilitate slight of hand illegal immigration.  Then by all means, please continue.

If (third example) "making life worse for everyone" mean stopping USAID funded domestic censorship campaigns - then by all means, please continue.

Whose life is improving from tariffs and DOGE?

cRusty - that’s TBD. FFS, you are pinnacle short attention span theater.

Let me ask you this (one example) why do you think a government agency where everybody made $150k plus a year, they had their own outside non governmental accounting firm (cus they were corrupt AF), and they worked out of offices that would make a Fortune 250 company jealous, and nobody showed up for work and they spent all their time wining  and dining themselves . . . should exist??

Is that helping anybody?


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[michigancat]

"making life worse for everyone"

First of all - we are still a nation that collectively lives at the pinnacle of first world problems. So this drama queening on that is positively fascinating to follow.

If (one example) "making life worse for everyone" means stopping USAID money laundering to connected #blueanon apparatchiks, then by all means, please continue.

If (second example) "making life worse for everyone" means stopping USAID money laundering to human trafficking NGO's  - purposely done to circumvent oversight and facilitate slight of hand illegal immigration.  Then by all means, please continue.

If (third example) "making life worse for everyone" mean stopping USAID funded domestic censorship campaigns - then by all means, please continue.

Whose life is improving from tariffs and DOGE?

cRusty - that’s TBD. FFS, you are pinnacle short attention span theater.

Let me ask you this (one example) why do you think a government agency where everybody made $150k plus a year, they had their own outside non governmental accounting firm (cus they were corrupt AF), and they worked out of offices that would make a Fortune 250 company jealous, and nobody showed up for work and they spent all their time wining  and dining themselves . . . should exist??

Is that helping anybody?


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What does that have to do with tariffs and whose life was improved by eliminating these made up jobs? Certainly not their families or the companies they bought from

[steve dave]

Of all the horrible crap he has done to the United States economy in just a few months time (OF WHICH THERE ARE MANY) destroying Fed independence would somehow be the most horrible yet. If someone were to try to intentionally destroy the United States economy and standing in the world they really could not do more than this dumbfuck has done.

https://x.com/deitaone/status/1915038245714362667?s=46


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