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Re: The league is nuts...
« Reply #100 on: February 24, 2011, 06:38:08 PM »
man, I really like to look at stuff like this.

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Re: The league is nuts...
« Reply #101 on: February 24, 2011, 09:01:46 PM »
man, I really like to look at stuff like this.

like the crap out of it.
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Re: The league is nuts...
« Reply #102 on: February 24, 2011, 09:15:50 PM »
I appreciate Winn's use of quality stats.

Our first 4 road games in the league we were terrible. Our highest PPP was barely over .9, and we gave up > 1.0 PPP in each game. I'm not sure how much better we are now, but I'd say we'd perform much better in several of those if the team was playing with its current mentality.

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Re: The league is nuts...
« Reply #103 on: February 25, 2011, 09:45:29 AM »
http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/why_i_wont_give_up_on_washington_or_kentucky/

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... is there such a thing as an otherwise great team being inherently bad on the road, even when taking home-court advantage into account? I don’t know the answer to that nor, I suspect, does anybody else. Oh you might think you know, but I’d like to suggest those people reconsider this idea.

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Re: The league is nuts...
« Reply #104 on: February 25, 2011, 09:48:04 AM »
kenpom has been getting lots of grief on twitter for Washington being so high in his rankings.
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Re: The league is nuts...
« Reply #105 on: February 25, 2011, 10:07:16 AM »
http://kenpom.com/blog/index.php/weblog/why_i_wont_give_up_on_washington_or_kentucky/

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... is there such a thing as an otherwise great team being inherently bad on the road, even when taking home-court advantage into account? I don’t know the answer to that nor, I suspect, does anybody else. Oh you might think you know, but I’d like to suggest those people reconsider this idea.


I've been waiting on this, I was curious as to what kenpom would say.

FWIW, our average home efficiencies vs teams rated 150 or better in kenpom is 1.095 to .897 with an average score of 76-62.

On the road its .953 to 1.027, average score of 64-69.


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Re: The league is nuts...
« Reply #106 on: February 25, 2011, 10:13:08 AM »
Good stuff from Winn...


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I'm skeptical about Missouri or K-State doing much in the NCAA tournament this year, given that their efficiency levels drop off a cliff once they leave home.

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http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/luke_winn/02/24/power.rankings/index.html?eref=twitter_feed
The most surprising part of this is looking at aTm. Not real good at home, worse on the road (although not a huge change b/w the two) yet here they are with 3rd all but locked up. I know it's indicative of them winning so many close games, but I guess the 3rd seed in the conference is almost always a lot less "average" in that statistical category.
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Re: The league is nuts...
« Reply #107 on: February 25, 2011, 10:23:02 AM »
The most surprising part of this is looking at aTm. Not real good at home, worse on the road (although not a huge change b/w the two) yet here they are with 3rd all but locked up. I know it's indicative of them winning so many close games, but I guess the 3rd seed in the conference is almost always a lot less "average" in that statistical category.

aTm has done an amazing job being consistent, and you've got to give Turgeon some credit for that. He's basically Doc-ed up games, but has a few better players, especially Middleton. They play the slowest pace of any team in the league and are solid at pretty much everything.  Their best wins are Washington, MU, and us; so they aren't exactly world beaters, they've just avoided the losses like we had to CU and OSU.

I'd guess they'd be a prime team to be a 4/5/6 seed in the dance to get beat in the first round. I'd love to be able to play them in the Big 12 tournament, but its very unlikely.

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Re: The league is nuts...
« Reply #108 on: February 25, 2011, 10:36:50 AM »
I think this thread should be called:

The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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Re: The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
« Reply #109 on: February 25, 2011, 10:45:28 AM »
I think this thread should be called:

The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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Re: The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
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Re: The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
« Reply #111 on: March 03, 2011, 08:21:40 AM »
Updated with 1 to go. This looks much better than it did a month ago.






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Re: The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
« Reply #112 on: March 03, 2011, 08:45:39 AM »
Tech has been playing decent ball as of late.  Here is to hoping they knock off A&M.   :crossfingers:
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Re: The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
« Reply #113 on: March 03, 2011, 08:53:13 AM »
Where did that phrase even come from, anyway? Why bananas. Why not apples or grapefruits?  :dubious:

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Re: The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
« Reply #114 on: March 03, 2011, 09:05:40 AM »
Where did that phrase even come from, anyway? Why bananas. Why not apples or grapefruits?  :dubious:

I think this thread should be called:

The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

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Re: The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
« Reply #115 on: March 03, 2011, 09:19:55 AM »
Baylor making a case against UFR style efficiency.

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Re: The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
« Reply #116 on: March 03, 2011, 02:08:36 PM »
The difference in a month of a Big 12 hoops:



Also, this is kind of interesting.

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Re: The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
« Reply #117 on: March 03, 2011, 02:24:57 PM »
i'd really like it if kstate could beat mu in the efficiency standings.  with vs ku and vs isu, a tie seems likely (rounded #)s, but i don't want a shared title.  i hope the players understand what's at stake when they're up 15 at the half.
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