The league is bananas! B-A-N-A-N-A-S!

[kso_FAN]

Errrr.... don't speak too soon about Baylor/UT.   We really need Baylor to lose this.

Yeah, Baylor made it a game.

And they are a great example for home/away fouls. At home vs NU this week they shot 44 FTs to NU's 19.

Today they have 7 FTAs and UT has 33 FTAs.

[kso_FAN]

UT finished with 37 FTAs and BU had 8.

BU had a 110% FT rate game and a 12.3% FT rate game in the same week. Crazy.

[doom]

UT finished with 37 FTAs and BU had 8.

BU had a 110% FT rate game and a 12.3% FT rate game in the same week. Crazy.

I want to know what ku's ratios are for away games.

[kso_FAN]

The Big 12 broken down various ways.

Standings      
   Wins   Losses
UT   10   0
KU   9   1
aTm   6   4
BU   6   5
MU   5   5
CU   5   6
KSU   4   6
NU   4   6
OSU   4   6
OU   4   6
TT   3   7
ISU   1   9

All categories sorted DIF (OFF-DEF).

kenpom               
   OFF   DEF   DIF   Wins   Losses
UT   1.100   0.837   0.264   10   0
KU   1.187   1.006   0.181   9   1
MU   1.091   1.029   0.062   5   5
CU   1.066   1.057   0.009   5   6
aTm   1.067   1.059   0.008   6   4
BU   1.038   1.045   -0.007   6   5
KSU   1.018   1.037   -0.019   4   6
NU   0.994   1.023   -0.029   4   6
OSU   1.009   1.065   -0.056   4   6
OU   0.978   1.079   -0.101   4   6
ISU   0.980   1.111   -0.131   1   9
TT   0.976   1.144   -0.167   3   7

eFG%               
   eFG%   OppeFG%   DIF   Wins   Losses
UT   54.2%   39.1%   15.1%   10   0
KU   59.0%   47.9%   11.1%   9   1
BU   53.5%   50.0%   3.5%   6   5
MU   50.0%   49.0%   1.0%   5   5
aTm   49.1%   50.7%   -1.5%   6   4
CU   48.9%   50.9%   -2.0%   5   6
OU   48.3%   50.9%   -2.6%   4   6
NU   47.9%   51.7%   -3.8%   4   6
KSU   47.5%   51.5%   -4.1%   4   6
TT   47.7%   52.8%   -5.1%   3   7
ISU   47.9%   53.3%   -5.4%   1   9
OSU   43.4%   49.5%   -6.1%   4   6

TO%               
   TO%   OppTO%   DIF   Wins   Losses
MU   15.4%   21.5%   -6.1%   5   5
OSU   18.6%   22.0%   -3.4%   4   6
aTm   18.2%   19.3%   -1.1%   6   4
KU   17.4%   18.2%   -0.9%   9   1
OU   20.1%   20.9%   -0.8%   4   6
NU   20.4%   20.9%   -0.5%   4   6
KSU   23.1%   22.8%   0.3%   4   6
CU   20.0%   18.7%   1.3%   5   6
UT   19.8%   18.1%   1.7%   10   0
ISU   18.8%   17.0%   1.9%   1   9
TT   21.2%   18.9%   2.3%   3   7
BU   24.6%   19.8%   4.8%   6   5

OR%               
   OR%   Opp OR%   DIF   Wins   Losses
KSU   40.7%   32.9%   7.8%   4   6
UT   35.0%   28.6%   6.4%   10   0
KU   33.8%   27.8%   6.0%   9   1
aTm   38.3%   32.6%   5.7%   6   4
CU   36.1%   31.4%   4.7%   5   6
BU   34.6%   34.7%   -0.1%   6   5
NU   28.9%   29.4%   -0.5%   4   6
OSU   35.8%   36.9%   -1.1%   4   6
MU   32.4%   36.6%   -4.2%   5   5
TT   33.1%   40.0%   -6.9%   3   7
OU   27.6%   36.3%   -8.7%   4   6
ISU   24.4%   34.0%   -9.7%   1   9

FTR               
   FTR   OppFTR   DIF   Wins   Losses
UT   51.0%   27.0%   24.0%   10   0
aTm   47.8%   34.3%   13.5%   6   4
KU   36.9%   30.4%   6.4%   9   1
BU   41.6%   36.2%   5.4%   6   5
TT   37.7%   38.1%   -0.4%   3   7
CU   35.5%   36.6%   -1.1%   5   6
OU   36.1%   39.7%   -3.6%   4   6
OSU   46.9%   53.6%   -6.8%   4   6
ISU   24.1%   31.4%   -7.3%   1   9
NU   35.2%   44.4%   -9.3%   4   6
MU   33.6%   43.2%   -9.6%   5   5
KSU   41.4%   53.5%   -12.1%   4   6

UFR               
   OFF   DEF   DIF   Wins   Losses
UT   0.945   0.703   0.242   10   0
KU   1.020   0.867   0.153   9   1
MU   0.919   0.862   0.057   5   5
BU   0.899   0.875   0.024   6   5
CU   0.890   0.901   -0.012   5   6
NU   0.857   0.875   -0.018   4   6
aTm   0.870   0.909   -0.039   6   4
OSU   0.833   0.892   -0.059   4   6
OU   0.848   0.916   -0.068   4   6
KSU   0.829   0.901   -0.072   4   6
ISU   0.863   0.935   -0.072   1   9
TT   0.836   0.966   -0.130   3   7

[michigancat]

We create more turnovers than MU.

[kso_FAN]

We create more turnovers than MU.

Yeah. MU needs to change their slogan. Maybe "40 minutes of pretty efficient offense with some average defense mixed in at a high pace".

Imagine our offense if we didn't offensive rebound. I'm thining Manley may have come up with his PPP system just to make K-State look worse.

[mcmwcat]

We create more turnovers than MU.

Yeah. MU needs to change their slogan. Maybe "40 minutes of pretty efficient offense with some average defense mixed in at a high pace".

Imagine our offense if we didn't offensive rebound. I'm thining Manley may have come up with his PPP system just to make K-State look worse.

that was the first reason i thought of 

[kso_FAN]

Looks a little better today...

Standings      
   Wins   Losses
UT   10   0
KU   9   2
aTm   6   4
BU   6   5
MU   5   5
CU   5   6
KSU   5   6
NU   4   6
OSU   4   6
OU   4   6
TT   3   7
ISU   1   9

kenpom         
   OFF   DEF   DIF
UT   1.100   0.837   0.264
KU   1.168   1.025   0.144
MU   1.091   1.029   0.062
CU   1.066   1.057   0.009
aTm   1.067   1.059   0.008
KSU   1.036   1.032   0.004
BU   1.038   1.045   -0.007
NU   0.994   1.023   -0.029
OSU   1.009   1.065   -0.056
OU   0.978   1.079   -0.101
ISU   0.980   1.111   -0.131
TT   0.976   1.144   -0.167

eFG%         
   eFG%   OppeFG%   DIF
UT   54.2%   39.1%   15.1%
KU   58.0%   49.0%   9.0%
BU   53.5%   50.0%   3.5%
MU   50.0%   49.0%   1.0%
aTm   49.1%   50.7%   -1.5%
CU   48.9%   50.9%   -2.0%
KSU   48.7%   51.1%   -2.4%
OU   48.3%   50.9%   -2.6%
NU   47.9%   51.7%   -3.8%
TT   47.7%   52.8%   -5.1%
ISU   47.9%   53.3%   -5.4%
OSU   43.4%   49.5%   -6.1%

TO%         
   TO%   OppTO%   DIF
MU   15.4%   21.5%   -6.1%
OSU   18.6%   22.0%   -3.4%
aTm   18.2%   19.3%   -1.1%
OU   20.1%   20.9%   -0.8%
KU   18.2%   18.7%   -0.5%
NU   20.4%   20.9%   -0.5%
KSU   23.1%   23.1%   0.0%
CU   20.0%   18.7%   1.3%
UT   19.8%   18.1%   1.7%
ISU   18.8%   17.0%   1.9%
TT   21.2%   18.9%   2.3%
BU   24.6%   19.8%   4.8%

OR%         
   OR%   Opp OR%   DIF
KSU   41.0%   33.2%   7.8%
UT   35.0%   28.6%   6.4%
aTm   38.3%   32.6%   5.7%
KU   34.0%   28.8%   5.2%
CU   36.1%   31.4%   4.7%
BU   34.6%   34.7%   -0.1%
NU   28.9%   29.4%   -0.5%
OSU   35.8%   36.9%   -1.1%
MU   32.4%   36.6%   -4.2%
TT   33.1%   40.0%   -6.9%
OU   27.6%   36.3%   -8.7%
ISU   24.4%   34.0%   -9.7%

FTR         
   FTR   OppFTR   DIF
UT   51.0%   27.0%   24.0%
aTm   47.8%   34.3%   13.5%
KU   38.5%   32.7%   5.8%
BU   41.6%   36.2%   5.4%
TT   37.7%   38.1%   -0.4%
CU   35.5%   36.6%   -1.1%
OU   36.1%   39.7%   -3.6%
OSU   46.9%   53.6%   -6.8%
ISU   24.1%   31.4%   -7.3%
NU   35.2%   44.4%   -9.3%
MU   33.6%   43.2%   -9.6%
KSU   42.9%   53.9%   -11.0%

UFT         
   OFF   DEF   DIF
UT   0.945   0.703   0.242
KU   1.006   0.883   0.123
MU   0.919   0.862   0.057
BU   0.899   0.875   0.024
CU   0.890   0.901   -0.012
NU   0.857   0.875   -0.018
aTm   0.870   0.909   -0.039
KSU   0.848   0.897   -0.049
OSU   0.833   0.892   -0.059
OU   0.848   0.916   -0.068
ISU   0.863   0.935   -0.072
TT   0.836   0.966   -0.130

[Cire]

good shot at finishing 6th and possibly 5th if MU collapses.

[AbeFroman]

good shot at finishing 6th and possibly 5th if MU collapses.

Need Colorado to choke. We still have one with Mizzou and they still have 2 other road games and they suck dick on the road. Baylor is key as they still have @MU, UT and A&M, and we have the tiebreaker.

[kso_FAN]

FYI:
aTm - ISU, @OSU, OU, @BU, @KU, TT
BU - D2, TT, @MU, aTm, @OSU, UT.
MU - TT, @ISU, BU, @KSU, @NU, KU
CU - @KU, @TT, UT, @ISU, NU
OSU - @UT, aTm, @KU, TT, BU, @OU
NU - @OU, UT, KSU, @ISU, MU, @CU
OU - NU, @KSU, @aTm, KU, @TT, OSU

Will be rooting for ISU and Tech to help us out in some of those.

[bakerman]

any feasibility of us getting the 4 seed in the B12 tourney?

I would think it's not out of the question completely yet. Really the most you should expect is 2(MU and UT) more losses from us, but both aren't completely out of the question.

BU- I would say probably 3 losses(@MU, aTm, @OSU) just because those road games are tough
MU- I think we can get them at home and I think KU probably gets them
CU- losses at KU and UT at home for sure.


Leaving:

KSU- 9-7
MU- 9-7
BU- 8-8
CU- 8-8

[kso_FAN]

My guess:

1. Texas (16 - 0)
2. Kansas (14 - 2)
3. Texas A&M (10 - 6)
4. Kansas State (8 - 8) Defeated Missouri based on record against #1 North Division teams.
5. Missouri (8 - 8) Lost to Kansas State based on record against #1 North Division teams.
6. Baylor (7 - 9) Defeated Oklahoma State based on South Division record.
7. Oklahoma State (7 - 9) Lost to Baylor based on South Division record.
8. Oklahoma (6 - 10) Defeated Colorado based on head-to-head record.
9. Colorado (6 - 10) Defeated Nebraska based on North Division record. Lost to Oklahoma based on head-to-head record.
10. Nebraska (6 - 10) Lost to Colorado based on North Division record.
11. Texas Tech (5 - 11)
12. Iowa State (3 - 13)

[bakerman]

would take! 

Thanks _FAN

[WillieWatanabe]

If that would happen....wow.

[kso_FAN]

I think there is a good chance...

And I'm being cautious with my post-KU elation.  I'm hopeful for 9-7, but I could see another loss besides @UT, likely @NU, maybe MU at home, but not both.  9-7 would almost be a lock for the 4 seed IMO.  aTm definitely has the inside track for the 3.

[sys]

My guess:

1. Texas (16 - 0)
2. Kansas (14 - 2)
3. Texas A&M (10 - 6)
4. Kansas State (8 - 8) Defeated Missouri based on record against #1 North Division teams.
5. Missouri (8 - 8) Lost to Kansas State based on record against #1 North Division teams.
6. Baylor (7 - 9) Defeated Oklahoma State based on South Division record.
7. Oklahoma State (7 - 9) Lost to Baylor based on South Division record.
8. Oklahoma (6 - 10) Defeated Colorado based on head-to-head record.
9. Colorado (6 - 10) Defeated Nebraska based on North Division record. Lost to Oklahoma based on head-to-head record.
10. Nebraska (6 - 10) Lost to Colorado based on North Division record.
11. Texas Tech (5 - 11)
12. Iowa State (3 - 13)

 

[1/64th]

My guess:

Texas- 16-0
KU- 14-2
aTm- 10-6
KSU- 9-7
MU- 9-7
BU- 8-8
CU- 7-9
OSU- 7-9
NU- 6-10
OU- 5-11
ISU- who cares
TT- no one cares

[kso_FAN]

My guess:

1. Texas (16 - 0)
2. Kansas (14 - 2)
3. Texas A&M (10 - 6)
4. Kansas State (8 - 8) Defeated Missouri based on record against #1 North Division teams.
5. Missouri (8 - 8) Lost to Kansas State based on record against #1 North Division teams.
6. Baylor (7 - 9) Defeated Oklahoma State based on South Division record.
7. Oklahoma State (7 - 9) Lost to Baylor based on South Division record.
8. Oklahoma (6 - 10) Defeated Colorado based on head-to-head record.
9. Colorado (6 - 10) Defeated Nebraska based on North Division record. Lost to Oklahoma based on head-to-head record.
10. Nebraska (6 - 10) Lost to Colorado based on North Division record.
11. Texas Tech (5 - 11)
12. Iowa State (3 - 13)

 

I leaned toward home wins in most cases, seemed safe. 

[sys]

home wins in most cases, seemed safe. 

you're predicting a really nice little late season collapse for baylor.  also going one under the kenpom on mu, which presumably isn't coming at the hands of baylor.

[Panjandrum]

I think there is a good chance...

And I'm being cautious with my post-KU elation.  I'm hopeful for 9-7, but I could see another loss besides @UT, likely @NU, maybe MU at home, but not both.  9-7 would almost be a lock for the 4 seed IMO.  aTm definitely has the inside track for the 3.

For me, I just can't seem to get the thought out of my head that 4-1 is very possible.  If we 'should' have beaten CU on the road, we 'can' beat NU on the road.  OU and ISU at home makes three, and MU is just an awful road team.  I really think we can win that one.

It may be elation, but I just can't seem to get this out of my head.  I think KSU has a very favorable schedule coming down the stretch.

[kso_FAN]

home wins in most cases, seemed safe. 

you're predicting a really nice little late season collapse for baylor.  also going one under the kenpom on mu, which presumably isn't coming at the hands of baylor.

Baylor's last four are tough, I'm giving then credit to win one. MU hasn't proven they can win on the road, though I'm giving them one road win. I'm assuming KU/UT home losses for them also. I'll admit each could have another win though.

[sys]

Baylor's last four are tough, I'm giving then credit to win one.

assuming they beat tech at home, one win out of their last four would have them at 8-8.

[kso_FAN]

Baylor's last four are tough, I'm giving then credit to win one.

assuming they beat tech at home, one win out of their last four would have them at 8-8.

Guess I have aTm the nod, that should probably be switched.

[sys]

Guess I have aTm the nod, that should probably be switched.

you should leave it.  calling his shot worked for chum1.