2013 Recruiting Thread

[jtksu]

He got mad that we won't blindly follow currie and Weber.

That sucks, he was v good at following recruiting.

[Cire]

Has bp come back to gpc since they ran him off?

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

He got mad that we won't blindly follow currie and Weber.

Good for him.  Probably gets old doing all that hard work and posting good info, only to have it followed up with a stream of posts from dipshit goEMAW retreads posting different versions of the same nonsense about chicken nuggets, currie and cwitting on the bball program.

You are your own demise.

[FranklyFrankYou]

Can anyone post the espn evals?

[steve dave]

Has bp come back to gpc since they ran him off?

Haven't seen him

[wabash909]

Oh boy!   

This Kansas State class not only has some talent but has a level of toughness and competitiveness that will help the Wildcats become a team that can potentially cause problems in the Big 12 once they work together and develop a winning chemistry.

[pissclams]

He got mad that we won't blindly follow currie and Weber.

swing and a miss.

[Bill Clarahan]

Oh boy!   

This Kansas State class not only has some talent but has a level of toughness and competitiveness that will help the Wildcats become a team that can potentially cause problems in the Big 12 once they work together and develop a winning chemistry.

The guy quoted must have a magic 8ball to forsee that crap

[kso_FAN]

The guy quoted must have a magic 8ball to forsee that crap

Yeah, sometimes hoops recruiting prognosticators are wrong.

And then sometimes they are WAY wrong...

The HOOP SCOOP has confirmed that Kansas State has landed 6'8 Jeremiah Massey from Oxnard (JC) CA, who is ranked as the #2 power forward in the junior college ranks by Lindy's Basketball Pre-Season Yearbook and as the #8 power forward in the junior college ranks by the Sporting News Pre-Season Yearbook.  This is big, because Massey is exactly what the Wildcats will need to replace 6'9 Jr Previs Pasco inside a year from now.  Actually Massey, who both scores and rebounds well around the basket, is better offensively right now than Pasco and, as a result, it continues to look like it's only a matter of time before Kansas State head coach Jim Wooldridge elevates the Wildcats into one of the powerhouse teams in the tough Big-12 Conference.  If you will recall, two years ago Kansas State had the 19th best recruiting class by the HOOP SCOOP and a year ago they followed that up with the 10th best recruiting class, which explains why Kansas State has the 13th highest talent rating in the nation based on our Exclusive HOOP SCOOP Talent Ratings for all Teams in the Top 10 Division I Conferences.   It also explains why we think this may be one of the biggest sleepers in the college basketball this season.  And this year Kansas State appears to be on the verge of its third straight top 20 recruiting class, as they currently have the #11-ranked recruiting class in the nation on our list of the Top Recruiting Classes To-Date for the Class of 2003.  If you will recall, we've already reported that they had verbal commitments from 5'7 Dez Willingham from De Soto (H.S.) TX, 6'8 Cartier Martin from Aldine (Nimitz) TX, and 6'4 Lance Harris from Columbia (Hickman) MO, but we also have learned that the Wildcats have landed 6'10 Tyler Hughes from Olathe (North Olathe) KS.  Which means Kansas State should continue to improve a year from now, despite the fact three starters - Pasco, 6'8 Sr Matt Siebrandt, and 6'5 Gilson DeJesus - will graduate after this season.  In addition to Massey, who will step into Pasco's spot, 6'7 Frosh Marques Hayden should be ready to take over for Siebrandt; Martin, Harris, and 6'3 Jr Tim Ellis all will get playing time at both the two and the three spots; and the backcourt should be terrific with 6'2 Jr Frank Richards, who is ranked as the #3 incoming junior college point guard by Sporting News Pre-Season Yearbook, and 6'4 Jarrett Hart, who is ranked as the #4 incoming junior college shooting guard by Sporting News Pre-Season Yearbook, and Willingham, who is ranked #37 nationally in the senior class by the HOOP SCOOP.  In other words, it should be only a matter of time before everybody else starts jumping on this bandwagon.

[wabash909]

Oh man, HOOP SCOOP memories...

In all actuality, though, this class is just as marginal as any of the Wooldridge classes ever were on paper.  In fact, you could make an argument that Wooldridge out-recruited Weber to this point when you look at players like Cartier Martin, Massey, Pasco, Hoskins and realize that we aren't bringing anyone onto the roster that comes anywhere near to being that highly regarded. 

Who comes the closest, Foster?

[8manpick]

it's only a matter of time

[ChiComCat]

it's only a matter of time

We bailed too soon

[sys]

this class is just as marginal as any of the Wooldridge classes ever were on paper.  In fact, you could make an argument that Wooldridge out-recruited Weber to this point when you look at players like Cartier Martin, Massey, Pasco, Hoskins and realize that we aren't bringing anyone onto the roster that comes anywhere near to being that highly regarded.

it's maybe not a completely fair comparison, since wooly had many more years than weber, but it's not even arguable.  martin, massey and pasco (plus some of the relatively highly rated misses he had) blow weber's two classes out of the water.

[yosh]

this class is just as marginal as any of the Wooldridge classes ever were on paper.  In fact, you could make an argument that Wooldridge out-recruited Weber to this point when you look at players like Cartier Martin, Massey, Pasco, Hoskins and realize that we aren't bringing anyone onto the roster that comes anywhere near to being that highly regarded.

it's maybe not a completely fair comparison, since wooly had many more years than weber, but it's not even arguable.  martin, massey and pasco (plus some of the relatively highly rated misses he had) blow weber's two classes out of the water.

I would rank the orris/Johnson class as the worst class since before wooly.  This class  is middle of the road over that same span.  Wooly had some good classes.  Hoop scoop was obviously off their collective rockers, but those two classes mentioned above were pretty good by anyone's standard.

[Cire]

this class is just as marginal as any of the Wooldridge classes ever were on paper.  In fact, you could make an argument that Wooldridge out-recruited Weber to this point when you look at players like Cartier Martin, Massey, Pasco, Hoskins and realize that we aren't bringing anyone onto the roster that comes anywhere near to being that highly regarded.

it's maybe not a completely fair comparison, since wooly had many more years than weber, but it's not even arguable.  martin, massey and pasco (plus some of the relatively highly rated misses he had) blow weber's two classes out of the water.

I would rank the orris/Johnson class as the worst class since before wooly.  This class  is middle of the road over that same span.  Wooly had some good classes.  Hoop scoop was obviously off their collective rockers, but those two classes mentioned above were pretty good by anyone's standard.

don't forget about sidiki sidibe

[steve dave]

this class is just as marginal as any of the Wooldridge classes ever were on paper.  In fact, you could make an argument that Wooldridge out-recruited Weber to this point when you look at players like Cartier Martin, Massey, Pasco, Hoskins and realize that we aren't bringing anyone onto the roster that comes anywhere near to being that highly regarded.

it's maybe not a completely fair comparison, since wooly had many more years than weber, but it's not even arguable.  martin, massey and pasco (plus some of the relatively highly rated misses he had) blow weber's two classes out of the water.

I would rank the orris/Johnson class as the worst class since before wooly.  This class  is middle of the road over that same span.  Wooly had some good classes.  Hoop scoop was obviously off their collective rockers, but those two classes mentioned above were pretty good by anyone's standard.

List of recruiting classes that can GTFOOMF since Rivals started consolidating

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2008
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2012
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2010
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2006
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2004

[8manpick]

this class is just as marginal as any of the Wooldridge classes ever were on paper.  In fact, you could make an argument that Wooldridge out-recruited Weber to this point when you look at players like Cartier Martin, Massey, Pasco, Hoskins and realize that we aren't bringing anyone onto the roster that comes anywhere near to being that highly regarded.

it's maybe not a completely fair comparison, since wooly had many more years than weber, but it's not even arguable.  martin, massey and pasco (plus some of the relatively highly rated misses he had) blow weber's two classes out of the water.

I would rank the orris/Johnson class as the worst class since before wooly.  This class  is middle of the road over that same span.  Wooly had some good classes.  Hoop scoop was obviously off their collective rockers, but those two classes mentioned above were pretty good by anyone's standard.

List of recruiting classes that can GTFOOMF since Rivals started consolidating

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2008
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2012
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2010
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2006
http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2004

2008 and 2012 really are heads above (below?) the other three there.

[mocat]

2006 does not belong there imo because I nearly exploded in the Derb Dining Hall when I read in the collegian that we signed a 5 star. I mean everybody was awful in that class but at the time it was like nirvana.

[steve dave]

you guys notice how every even numbered recruiting class sucks balls and taints? I mean, let's go back to 2002 and see if that trend continues....yep, though we didn't know it at the time

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2002

[ChiComCat]

you guys notice how every even numbered recruiting class sucks balls and taints? I mean, let's go back to 2002 and see if that trend continues....yep, though we didn't know it at the time

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2002

Did rivals used to just hand out 4 stars to everyone that could dribble and/or touch the rim?

[8manpick]

2006 does not belong there imo because I nearly exploded in the Derb Dining Hall when I read in the collegian that we signed a 5 star. I mean everybody was awful in that class but at the time it was like nirvana.

Those three players combined to start for 5 years at K-State, compared to Awaji and Herrera who combined to appear in only 29 games at K-State.  2010 is way way better than any of those other ones.

[Dr Rick Daris]

you guys notice how every even numbered recruiting class sucks balls and taints? I mean, let's go back to 2002 and see if that trend continues....yep, though we didn't know it at the time

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2002

Did rivals used to just hand out 4 stars to everyone that could dribble and/or touch the rim?

jucos (both fball and bball) were pretty inflated back then. not as many four and five stars are given out now.

[steve dave]

2006 does not belong there imo because I nearly exploded in the Derb Dining Hall when I read in the collegian that we signed a 5 star. I mean everybody was awful in that class but at the time it was like nirvana.

Those three players combined to start for 5 years at K-State, compared to Awaji and Herrera who combined to appear in only 29 games at K-State.  2010 is way way better than any of those other ones.

yeah, 2006 and 2010 were the best of the group which says something about how shitty our even numbered year recruiting classes have been.

[Skipper44]

you guys notice how every even numbered recruiting class sucks balls and taints? I mean, let's go back to 2002 and see if that trend continues....yep, though we didn't know it at the time

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2002

Did rivals used to just hand out 4 stars to everyone that could dribble and/or touch the rim?

jucos (both fball and bball) were pretty inflated back then. not as many four and five stars are given out now.

That was also around the time prep schools started really diverting all the top talent from JCs.  In the 80s and most of the 90s getting a top 20 JC usually meant they were really good and there were usually at least some NBA types every year.

[MadCat]

you guys notice how every even numbered recruiting class sucks balls and taints? I mean, let's go back to 2002 and see if that trend continues....yep, though we didn't know it at the time

http://rivals.yahoo.com/kansasstate/basketball/recruiting/commitments/2002

It is an unexpected trend.