working from home 101

[ben ji]

I'm a big hybrid fan.

I honestly hated working fully remote because you are just sitting in the same place all day. Alright, work is DONE! I'm going to move from one room into the other.....I just went stir crazy. I also think there is a lot to learn from in person interactions with your co-workers. "Hey have you ever had this issue come up? How did you deal with it? etc"

I do however love the flexibility to work from home on demand since it makes it so much easier to run errands and do random crap around the house.

(Also I have never had more than a 15 minute commute to the office so I'd probably love working from home more if I spent 1hr in a car each way)

[michigancat]

I have never met anyone at any company or work situation that I would consider "supremely talented" at work stuff. Especially at the exec level

[michigancat]

We made 2 days in office mandatory like a year ago but the chief marketing officer didn't live in New York so the marketing team just didn't come in.

[steve dave]

We made 2 days in office mandatory like a year ago but the chief marketing officer didn't live in New York so the marketing team just didn't come in.

My KC employees are supposed to come in 2 days a week and I have a dashboard where I am supposed to be monitoring their badge swipes. First day they rolled it out I told them I would not be monitoring their badge swipes and just don’t get me in trouble and so far I’ve not gotten in trouble so everyone wins.


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[steve dave]

My company is evacuating real estate at a frenzied pace so inevitably we’ll just have one office in the United States, probably less than a decade from now. Used to have 8 stories and 5 stories of office in KC and Omaha when I started right out of college 20 years ago (OLD!). Now going down to 1 in KC and Omaha closed. Pretty sweet.


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[wetwillie]

What's going to happen to commercial real estate? Seems like bad things.

[steve dave]

What's going to happen to commercial real estate? Seems like bad things.

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[michigancat]

What's going to happen to commercial real estate? Seems like bad things.

Hard to say. My company has some really high end space in Manhattan and signed a doggone 15 year lease before the pandemic. Absolutely wild but makes me think there's such a wide variety of lease terms so the shifts won't hit all at once. And so many companies are doing hybrid so I think the bigger shift will be the business supporting office workers when hardly anyone is coming in on Monday or Friday. Like the lunch spots and stuff

[DaBigTrain]

These mandates are prob more "we need to get rid of some people and don't want to announce layoffs or pay people to leave".

100% they are. much cheaper than paying severance.

Real problem with this though. The people that tell them to eff off and leave are probably good enough to get a job somewhere else and you are left with the people that are "stuck". Now those people are even more pissed about being there.

I don't think so. most high risers are high risers and will come to the office. most slack asses will not and will instead try to find another slack ass job.

that’s actually not true.  high performers like the flexibility that working remotely offers just like everyone else and will still dictate their terms.  lots of information about this out there on the world wide web.

My company is militant about in office work.  The functional head works remote.  So does another key player.  If you are supremely talented you get crap others don't.

that’s right. top talent always trumps whatever the eff else is going on.

This is my situation. As a super high earner and top talent(as per my annual review this year) I can do basically whatever the eff I want. And what I want is to maybe go in the office sometimes when I feel like it.

[pissclams]

What's going to happen to commercial real estate? Seems like bad things.

Hard to say. My company has some really high end space in Manhattan and signed a doggone 15 year lease before the pandemic. Absolutely wild but makes me think there's such a wide variety of lease terms so the shifts won't hit all at once. And so many companies are doing hybrid so I think the bigger shift will be the business supporting office workers when hardly anyone is coming in on Monday or Friday. Like the lunch spots and stuff

existing leases are one thing but new leases aren’t backfilling terminated contracts at a high enough rate to keep commercial real estate prices anywhere near where they need to be in order to keep mortgage holders afloat

[steve dave]

banks are marking down their existing loans at a tremendous rate. and it'll continue for a long time like rusty mentioned. new world we live in. there were a few good "odd lots" episodes on it. one was about how people say they should convert to residential (solves two problems if possible) and why that wasn't actually feasible for a lot of weird reasons. shape of spaces and windows and stuff being against residential code in like NYC and things like that.

[star seed 7]

Who wouldn't want to live at the sprint campus?

[steve dave]

the wild thing is to look at REIT/ETF prices. have pretty much done fine. losing their ass to the overall market and obviously most are a mix of commercial and residential and whatnot. but they've been trucking right along. not like the banking crisis of '08 anyway.

[chum1]

The Dimon thread had me thinking about this. I am on a call with 16 people. Most people on the call are on the call because something relevant for them *might* come up. Because there is nothing relevant for me, I am completing another task while on the call. If this meeting was in person, I would not be able to do this. This happens quite often.

[Brock Landers]

Exactly.  On Tuesday I was on a Zoom call that was scheduled for an hour, thankfully it only went about 40 minutes and I said about one sentence the whole time.  I only accepted because it was a client call. If it was just other fellow employees I would likely decline the meeting request lol.

[cfbandyman]

The Dimon thread had me thinking about this. I am on a call with 16 people. Most people on the call are on the call because something relevant for them *might* come up. Because there is nothing relevant for me, I am completing another task while on the call. If this meeting was in person, I would not be able to do this. This happens quite often.

I think this is super common. I did enjoy when I was in Canada when the site manager banned laptops from meetings (even if it was mostly not for engineering we just had to listen while in the room) and then our productivity tanked. All cause they couldn't handle hearing typing going on. Like, most meetings to me are multitasking and only listening for when something relevant even comes up.

[catastrophe]

The Dimon thread had me thinking about this. I am on a call with 16 people. Most people on the call are on the call because something relevant for them *might* come up. Because there is nothing relevant for me, I am completing another task while on the call. If this meeting was in person, I would not be able to do this. This happens quite often.

Would the same meeting have happened pre covid? That is the question.

[pissclams]

last month i bought a usb c hub monitor for wfh, it’s pretty convenient