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Quote from: MakeItRain on September 17, 2019, 05:53:16 PMQuote from: michigancat on September 17, 2019, 01:30:24 AMI personally don't see anything wrong with someone taking issue with Snyder's bad person approach to player treatment/being an bad person in 2018 but accepting it in 1998. Times change.That's fine, do what you want but if you do that be intellectually honest enough to say it's about the winning, because it sure as hell isn't about a change in Bill. If anything all signs pointed to him softening more at the end.of course that's part of it, but it's not ALL there is and it's not exactly black and white. First of all, what we accept as a society today is a lot different than what we accepted in 1991. Also, an approach to discipline that worked for the shittiest program in history in 1990 could make you far less likely to win today with a program that's had a pretty good 20 year run.
Quote from: michigancat on September 17, 2019, 01:30:24 AMI personally don't see anything wrong with someone taking issue with Snyder's bad person approach to player treatment/being an bad person in 2018 but accepting it in 1998. Times change.That's fine, do what you want but if you do that be intellectually honest enough to say it's about the winning, because it sure as hell isn't about a change in Bill. If anything all signs pointed to him softening more at the end.
I personally don't see anything wrong with someone taking issue with Snyder's bad person approach to player treatment/being an bad person in 2018 but accepting it in 1998. Times change.
Quote from: MakeItRain on September 17, 2019, 05:59:00 PMQuote from: Dugout DickStone on September 17, 2019, 04:05:16 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2019, 01:25:41 PMQuote from: LibDerp7BubbleBoy on September 17, 2019, 11:14:22 AMDax literally thinks every single person in the world has a secret nefarious agenda to screw him. Yes it's insane, but it also provides some great bbs material. you're such a little weirdo and you and Dug need to quit taking The Pit outside of The Pit.I don't take the pit outside of the pit. I think I agree with you in literally every non pit thread there is. I agree with your Snyder take. I think it also bears mentioning that KSU had to give Bill $3mm to go quietly and not round up his donors to try and force shawn in.No, that didn't need to be done, not at all, especially if Gene was going to hire Klieman. Gene did that because it was the easiest way, but the only thing he was required to do is what was contractually obligated. He chose not to play hardball, just like Bill chose to ask for all of that money. He used the leverage he earned, good for him for being so good at his job for so long. A lot of this sounds like rich shaming.Are you really good at your job if your employer is forcing you to leave from poor performance?
Quote from: Dugout DickStone on September 17, 2019, 04:05:16 PMQuote from: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2019, 01:25:41 PMQuote from: LibDerp7BubbleBoy on September 17, 2019, 11:14:22 AMDax literally thinks every single person in the world has a secret nefarious agenda to screw him. Yes it's insane, but it also provides some great bbs material. you're such a little weirdo and you and Dug need to quit taking The Pit outside of The Pit.I don't take the pit outside of the pit. I think I agree with you in literally every non pit thread there is. I agree with your Snyder take. I think it also bears mentioning that KSU had to give Bill $3mm to go quietly and not round up his donors to try and force shawn in.No, that didn't need to be done, not at all, especially if Gene was going to hire Klieman. Gene did that because it was the easiest way, but the only thing he was required to do is what was contractually obligated. He chose not to play hardball, just like Bill chose to ask for all of that money. He used the leverage he earned, good for him for being so good at his job for so long. A lot of this sounds like rich shaming.
Quote from: sonofdaxjones on September 17, 2019, 01:25:41 PMQuote from: LibDerp7BubbleBoy on September 17, 2019, 11:14:22 AMDax literally thinks every single person in the world has a secret nefarious agenda to screw him. Yes it's insane, but it also provides some great bbs material. you're such a little weirdo and you and Dug need to quit taking The Pit outside of The Pit.I don't take the pit outside of the pit. I think I agree with you in literally every non pit thread there is. I agree with your Snyder take. I think it also bears mentioning that KSU had to give Bill $3mm to go quietly and not round up his donors to try and force shawn in.
Quote from: LibDerp7BubbleBoy on September 17, 2019, 11:14:22 AMDax literally thinks every single person in the world has a secret nefarious agenda to screw him. Yes it's insane, but it also provides some great bbs material. you're such a little weirdo and you and Dug need to quit taking The Pit outside of The Pit.
Dax literally thinks every single person in the world has a secret nefarious agenda to screw him. Yes it's insane, but it also provides some great bbs material.
Holy crap those stats are meaningless right now.
Quote from: SleepFighter on September 18, 2019, 09:54:47 AMHoly crap those stats are meaningless right now. YES!**But I don't care.
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The university as a whole isn't very good at graduating students.https://www.scholarships.com/colleges/kansas-state-university/graduation-rates/
Quote from: Rage Against the McKee on June 09, 2020, 11:02:00 AMThe university as a whole isn't very good at graduating students.https://www.scholarships.com/colleges/kansas-state-university/graduation-rates/
Athlete numbers can be skewed though, if say, 3/4 if the basketball team transfers out