Phoggies (you can't make this stuff up)

[wildcat1979]

I cannot recall the refs ever screwing KSU.

If it results in a NCAA rule change, we weren't the only ones who thought we got screwed.

that has literally never happened, tuck.

Hilburn salute prompts a rule change
Staff reports
It may not be much of a consolation to Kansas State now, but at least the Wildcats can lay claim to the fact that a rule is being altered due in large part to them.
More than 300 college football officials from numerous BCS conferences, including the Big 12, met for a three-day clinic, which concluded Saturday in Kansas City. One of the topics discussed was the controversial unsportsmanlike conduct call on K-State's Adrian Hilburn, who was flagged for saluting the crowd after scoring a touchdown late in K-State's loss to Syracuse in the Pinstripe Bowl. The 15-yard penalty pushed the Wildcats' potential game-tying two-point conversion attempt from the 18-yard line, 15 yards back from the normal spot, significantly damaging K-State's chances to send the game to overtime.
Following new rules changes this offseason, salutes won't be a penalty, as officials have been told to largely ignore spontaneous celebrations, and rather shift their focus to premeditated celebrations and taunting of the opponent, such as finger pointing and high-stepping.

Never.

[OK_Cat]

I cannot recall the refs ever screwing KSU.

If it results in a NCAA rule change, we weren't the only ones who thought we got screwed.

that has literally never happened, tuck.

Hilburn salute prompts a rule change
Staff reports
It may not be much of a consolation to Kansas State now, but at least the Wildcats can lay claim to the fact that a rule is being altered due in large part to them.
More than 300 college football officials from numerous BCS conferences, including the Big 12, met for a three-day clinic, which concluded Saturday in Kansas City. One of the topics discussed was the controversial unsportsmanlike conduct call on K-State's Adrian Hilburn, who was flagged for saluting the crowd after scoring a touchdown late in K-State's loss to Syracuse in the Pinstripe Bowl. The 15-yard penalty pushed the Wildcats' potential game-tying two-point conversion attempt from the 18-yard line, 15 yards back from the normal spot, significantly damaging K-State's chances to send the game to overtime.
Following new rules changes this offseason, salutes won't be a penalty, as officials have been told to largely ignore spontaneous celebrations, and rather shift their focus to premeditated celebrations and taunting of the opponent, such as finger pointing and high-stepping.

Never.

jfc, stop looking for validation so hard.  hilburn's salute isn't the first time that something like that has happened.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

I'd like to pose a question to you Tortuga, and that question is this:  Are the National Championships that KU won had the refs not sucked so badly, so they actually didn't win them-

a) worth more than their Helms titles
b) equal to their Helms titles
c) worth less than their Helms titles

Depends, how was the officiating in the games where they won the Helms titles?

[OregonSmock]

It's always rich when fans of a program with no national titles in any team sport make fun of KU's Helms titles.  Using powerespect logic, every national title in college football that was won before the current BCS system is invalid.

[_33]

It's always rich when fans of a program with no national titles in any team sport make fun of KU's Helms titles.  Using powerespect logic, every national title in college football that was won before the current BCS system is invalid.

What?

[OregonSmock]

It's always rich when fans of a program with no national titles in any team sport make fun of KU's Helms titles.  Using powerespect logic, every national title in college football that was won before the current BCS system is invalid.

What?

What don't you understand? 


 

[_33]

It's always rich when fans of a program with no national titles in any team sport make fun of KU's Helms titles.  Using powerespect logic, every national title in college football that was won before the current BCS system is invalid.

What?

What don't you understand? 


 

The 2nd part of your post. And some of the 1st part.

[OregonSmock]

It's always rich when fans of a program with no national titles in any team sport make fun of KU's Helms titles.  Using powerespect logic, every national title in college football that was won before the current BCS system is invalid.

What?

What don't you understand? 


 

The 2nd part of your post. And some of the 1st part.

Wow... let me spell it out for you, then.  Helms titles were awarded before there was an NCAA tournament, the same way that national titles in college football were awarded before the current BCS system.  The fact that KU acknowledges our Helms titles is no different than Notre Dame acknowledging their pre-BCS national titles in college football. 

[sonofdaxjones]

 

[OregonSmock]

How many different teams won the "national title" in 1990?  Four?

[OregonSmock]

LOL at Auburn, Florida State, Notre Dame, and Nebraska for counting their "national title" in 1993. 


 

[sonofdaxjones]

You've reached no heights of Butthurt, and for that I say . . .  

[OregonSmock]

LOL at Notre Dame, Texas, Arizona State, Nebraska, and Ohio State for counting their "national title" in 1970.



 

[sonofdaxjones]

 

[EMAWmeister]

LOL at Notre Dame, Texas, Arizona State, Nebraska, and Ohio State for counting their "national title" in 1970.



 

you're actually upset enough by this to do research? JFC go outside and play or something.

[OregonSmock]

LOL at Alabama, Michigan, Notre Dame, Ohio State, and Oklahoma for counting their "national title" in 1973.


 

[Stevesie60]

It's always rich when fans of a program with no national titles in any team sport make fun of KU's Helms titles.  Using powerespect logic, every national title in college football that was won before the current BCS system is invalid.

What?

What don't you understand? 


 

The 2nd part of your post. And some of the 1st part.

Wow... let me spell it out for you, then.  Helms titles were awarded before there was an NCAA tournament, the same way that national titles in college football were awarded before the current BCS system. 

Helms titles apparently aren't important enough for you to look up how they work.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

It's always rich when fans of a program with no national titles in any team sport make fun of KU's Helms titles.  Using powerespect logic, every national title in college football that was won before the current BCS system is invalid.

What?

What don't you understand?  


 

The 2nd part of your post. And some of the 1st part.

Wow... let me spell it out for you, then.  Helms titles were awarded before there was an NCAA tournament, the same way that national titles in college football were awarded before the current BCS system.  The fact that KU acknowledges our Helms titles is no different than Notre Dame acknowledging their pre-BCS national titles in college football. 

Don't Yale and Columbia have like half a dozen helms national titles between the two of them?  Basketball Bluebloods.



While you clowns were busy awarding yourselves national titles decades after the fact, we were busy breaking the color barrier.  I guess priorities got in the way of satisfying an adolescent sense of security.

Racial integration at Kansas State

Kansas State historically has been welcoming to all races. As far back as the 1940s and 1950's (a time regarded by many for its lack of civil rights in the United States), the leadership of K-State athletics took a strong stance in support of racial integration.

Football
In 1949, African American Harold Robinson played football for Kansas State with an athletic scholarship. In doing so, Robinson broke the decades-long "color barrier" in Big Seven Conference athletics. Harold Robinson later received a letter of congratulations from Jackie Robinson, who had integrated major league baseball in 1947 while playing with the Brooklyn Dodgers.

Baseball
In the spring of 1951, the conference color barrier in baseball was broken by Kansas State's Earl Woods (the father of golf great Tiger Woods). An indicator of the controversial nature of this position is reflected in an article published in The Tulsa World about an incident that occurred in the early 1950s during a baseball game:  “Former teammate Larry Hartshorn recalled an instance when the Wildcats were scheduled to play a spring game against a team from Mississippi. During warm-ups, the Mississippi coach took notice of Earl, and according to Hartshorn, the coach said his team would play the game only if the black player stayed on the bus. Instead, K-State coach Ray Wauthier put everybody on the bus. "We just left," Hartshorn said.”

Men's Basketball
Finally, in the winter of 1951–1952, Kansas State's Gene Wilson broke the conference color barrier in basketball.

In hind sight, makes ku look pretty pathetic on all accounts.

[EMAWmeister]

It's always rich when fans of a program with no national titles in any team sport make fun of KU's Helms titles.  Using powerespect logic, every national title in college football that was won before the current BCS system is invalid.

What?

What don't you understand?  


 

The 2nd part of your post. And some of the 1st part.

Wow... let me spell it out for you, then.  Helms titles were awarded before there was an NCAA tournament, the same way that national titles in college football were awarded before the current BCS system.  The fact that KU acknowledges our Helms titles is no different than Notre Dame acknowledging their pre-BCS national titles in college football. 

Don't Yale and Columbia have like half a dozen helms national titles between the two of them?  Basketball Bluebloods.



While you clowns were busy awarding yourselves national titles decades after the fact, we were busy breaking the color barrier.  I guess priorities got in the way of satisfying an adolescent sense of security.

Racial integration at Kansas State

Kansas State historically has been welcoming to all races. As far back as the 1940s and 1950's (a time regarded by many for its lack of civil rights in the United States), the leadership of K-State athletics took a strong stance in support of racial integration.

Football
In 1949, African American Harold Robinson played football for Kansas State with an athletic scholarship. In doing so, Robinson broke the decades-long "color barrier" in Big Seven Conference athletics. Harold Robinson later received a letter of congratulations from Jackie Robinson, who had integrated major league baseball in 1947 while playing with the Brooklyn Dodgers.

Baseball
In the spring of 1951, the conference color barrier in baseball was broken by Kansas State's Earl Woods (the father of golf great Tiger Woods). An indicator of the controversial nature of this position is reflected in an article published in The Tulsa World about an incident that occurred in the early 1950s during a baseball game:  “Former teammate Larry Hartshorn recalled an instance when the Wildcats were scheduled to play a spring game against a team from Mississippi. During warm-ups, the Mississippi coach took notice of Earl, and according to Hartshorn, the coach said his team would play the game only if the black player stayed on the bus. Instead, K-State coach Ray Wauthier put everybody on the bus. "We just left," Hartshorn said.”

Men's Basketball
Finally, in the winter of 1951–1952, Kansas State's Gene Wilson broke the conference color barrier in basketball.

In hind sight, makes ku look pretty pathetic on all accounts.

How many times do you think Tiger Woods has been to lawrence?  Meanwhile, they love MHK so much that his father chose it as his final resting place...

[OregonSmock]

Last time I checked, KU's chancellor was a black woman, and our head coach was a black man.  You were saying?

[EMAWmeister]

Last time I checked, KU's chancellor was a black woman, and our head coach was a black man.  You were saying?

That would be impressive... If this were the 60's.

[Fake Sugar Dick (WARNING, NOT THE REAL SUGAR DICK!)]

Last time I checked, KU's chancellor was a black woman, and our head coach was a black man.  You were saying?

Man, you guys are really crashing through that color barrier.  Any plans for integration in the cafeteria?  Perhaps a drinking fountain anyone can use?

[pike]

Last time I checked, KU's chancellor was a black woman, and our head coach was a black man.  You were saying?

Man, you guys are really crashing through that color barrier.  Any plans for integration in the cafeteria?  Perhaps a drinking fountain anyone can use?

Has Lawrence adopted the Civil Right's Act of 1964 yet? Brown vs Board of Education?

[EMAWzified]

Last time I checked, KU's chancellor was a black woman, and our head coach was a black man.  You were saying?

"Some of our best administrators are black." Racist POS.

[Cire]

Why do you stick up for those tards beems?