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Kansas State Football / Re: Let me say something
« on: September 27, 2011, 10:40:02 AM »
But against a team like Baylor...that's not gonna get it done.

And if you want something better than a mediocre performance in brooklyn, NY to end the year...you need better than what you just described.

Actually, I think that does get it done. Or at least gives you a shot at getting it done.

Unless you're OU or OSU, the way to beat RG3 is to play keepaway and shorten the game.  There are fewer do-over possessions for the other team.   Rest your own D while controlling the ball on long drives. 

Think KU game in 2009. Reese's Pieces had fewer chances (possessions) to correct the turnovers he had during the game.

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A larger penalty will be hard to get agreement on. Plus, it could be akward for schools like MU that might want options.

You keep a league together by making it really hard to say no.  You sweeten the pot.  If that's renegotiatin of top teir rights now, then do it. If it means rolling LHN into big 12 network, then do it. Whatever it takes. Basically do what Beebe should have been doing in the spring of 2010.

Relationships can only be stable when people have the option to leave, but choose to stay.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: samuels
« on: February 28, 2011, 09:59:45 PM »
Samuals is just a bone head in this type of game. We are thin at post and he has to get at least one dumb ass foul every game.

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: kelly
« on: February 05, 2011, 02:19:46 PM »
Between Kelly and Samuals, I wonder if we've ever had a tandem that commits more idiotic fouls?  Wasn't it the first possession of  the game, Kelly comes down and commits a moving screen?  Later, Samuals shoves a guy in the chest on a 3 attempt. Going into the game, the bigs know they are not deep, and just play dumb. 

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Kansas State Football / Re: New DC at KSU?
« on: January 23, 2011, 03:19:42 PM »
Thanks for the info, CatGeek.



Sure. Trying to help folks out here ya know. I know it's tough reading about actual ksu news like coach hirings as new threads.  I just hope people that start top level threads don't get upset with me, taking away screen real estate from the likes of:

Things old people are good at
1/21/2013
Somedays I want to punch retards square in the face.


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Kansas State Football / Re: New DC at KSU?
« on: January 22, 2011, 07:31:40 PM »
hmm....you better have started this thread as a setup for a joke...

Provide the punchline then...
 :ck:

I've got yer punchline right here.

Wow. Is that the same punchline that doubled Martin's salary?

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Kansas State Football / Re: Things old people are good at
« on: January 22, 2011, 03:37:15 PM »
Obsessing over taxes

Feeling remorseful for squandering a lifetime of relationships with family and tossing shallow monetary benefits towards them in attempt to make amends...despite the obvious futility

Failing to recognize when they are loosing their capabilities in professional pursuits

Unable to change ingrained patterns that are ineffective and even destructive

Frightened of new technologies and quickly dismissive of their benefits

"What young people are good at"

1. Standing on lawns.
2. Oblivious to the things that would make them productive members of society, and wasting time that could be spent in professional or educational pursuits. -->  :drink:
3. Making posts about other people, not realizing it is a transparent view into their own fears, ignorance, prejudice, and general insecurity about who they are and where they fit in society...

Cheer up. You'll grow up eventually.

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Kansas State Football / Re: New DC at KSU?
« on: January 22, 2011, 02:08:24 PM »
hmm....you better have started this thread as a setup for a joke...

Provide the punchline then...
 :ck:

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Kansas State Football / New DC at KSU?
« on: January 22, 2011, 12:37:11 PM »
Couldn't find a thread with the news yet, pull this thread if already posted...

http://www.kansascity.com/2011/01/21/2601532/k-state-assistant-leaves-for-mississippi.html


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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: New types of bigs needed?
« on: January 10, 2011, 10:47:09 PM »
For christ sake, the body types of our big men is about #104 of our top 100 priorities on this team. 
 :powerespect:

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Kansas State Football / Re: LHC Bill Snyder
« on: December 30, 2010, 05:47:54 PM »

I would trade Ron Prince straight up for LHC Bill Snyder right now.  Take us back Ron, we made a terrible mistake.


Now that's the dumbest statement I've heard all season. Sounds about like one of those power turds you guys keep talking about on this board.... Is that right?  Power Turds?  Help me out here.

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Kansas State Football / No flea flickers please
« on: December 30, 2010, 05:30:46 PM »
That last flea flicker was killer for us. Burned no clock and put D back on field.

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you know where i've never been? boston. have the chance to go there this summer but i think i'll turn it down and maybe go to austin instead. thoughts?

Never been to Boston. Go for it. Got to be better than KS. Been to Austin a long time ago. Great music scene if you like that type of thing. But other than that, it's alright I guess.

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you know what's not a cachole small town? sabetha. weird and prob a little inbred but they keep very good care of it and everyone is very polite. thoughts?

Never been there.

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but i bet you love the fans in lawrence, squawk.

Can't stand it either. Another s**thole of a small town.

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Especially that sh**hole of a town, Manhattan KS. Can't stand the place. F**king mouth breathers that run around that town taking in "college sporting events."

Love the fact those f**kwads drove all the way to KCMO for a game before the announcement.

Yeah!

whatever you say, squawk.

Squawk? I'm a life long cat fan. Just can't stand our fanbase, especially the ones in Manhattan.

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Especially that sh**hole of a town, Manhattan KS. Can't stand the place. F**king mouth breathers that run around that town taking in "college sporting events."

Love the fact those f**kwads drove all the way to KCMO for a game before the announcement.

Yeah!

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Kansas State Basketball is hard / Re: So what did this game tell us?
« on: November 24, 2010, 12:10:13 PM »
Before anyone get's too crazed on Denis, he couldn't defend for crap last year against good speed or not.  So, tell me exactly how he would have dealt with the super frosh?

He was all about transition and offensive speed.  Which would be nice to have.  But let's not crown him the king of PG's.

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Kansas State Football / Re: Prince was Snyder's fault.
« on: October 11, 2010, 09:22:42 PM »
That’s my biggest issue.

The guy is unquestionably a hall of famer and the run he made during the DOD was incredible for all K-Staters and an amazing accomplishment simply for what it was and where the program had been.  I absolutely, 100% appreciate that and have a tremendous amount of respect for all that he has meant to our school.

However, to continually deny the existence of some legitimate problems affecting this program is to impede our future ability for this school to compete at a high level again.  We can either heed the warning signs or we can choose not to and allow for them to decay the program because we believe Snyder is entitled  to immunity to do whatever he wants no matter what the consequences may be.

Objectively speaking, these problems were responsible for the demise of K-State football and continue to be at the root of what are holding us back:

-   First and foremost, for the winningest head coach in school program, a man that was the heart and soul of the program, one that he built with his bare hands from the ground up and presided over for a decade and half, to not have an orchestrated succession plan in place is completely inexcusable.  Then to compound the problem, not only did he not have a succession plan, he then acted as a non-participant bystander as the buffoons in Anderson proceeded to make one of the worst hires in school history to assume leadership of the football program which prolonged the rebuilding process another 3 years.

-   Second, coaching staff retention was a major factor the first go around and continues to be so today.  Whether it is an unwillingness to reward his top assistants financially, a perceived lack of appreciation, or an intolerable work environment, the continual revolving door amongst our top level of the coaching staff is a debilitating problem.   Allowing this program to be coached by a bunch of unwanted retreads is what prompted Snyder’s retirement the first time around.  Assembling the same staff outside of Koenning and Ludwig and then allowing both of those two to abandon the staff in a year’s time is absurd.  

-   Third, recruiting goes hand in hand with the coaching turnover and coaching staff in general.  It killed our program following the Big XII Title.  The fact that we recruited so poorly in the years leading to the Big XII Title is the primary reason we finished dead in the conference in the years following.

-   Fourth, facilities continue to play a major role and during the early 2000’s teams like Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Missouri, KU all programs we dominated, made major commitments to upgrading their facilities to improve their competitive ability in the league.  We did nothing, we felt the repercussions, and now we’re desperately playing catch up.

-   Finally, we have to, as a fan base, get beyond this belief that Snyder is the only head coach capable of winning at K-State.  We also need to eradicate this deep seated powerespect dogma that “anything is ok” because we used to really suck for a long period of time and anything is better.  It’s a loser’s mentality and one that will perpetuate mediocrity forever as long at it exists.

In conclusion, I strongly dislike Chris Cosh.

Good post.  I don't disagree with any of this.  Although I will pick at one nit though, for clarity sake.

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-   Finally, we have to, as a fan base, get beyond this belief that Snyder is the only head coach capable of winning at K-State.  We also need to eradicate this deep seated powerespect dogma that “anything is ok” because we used to really suck for a long period of time and anything is better.  It’s a loser’s mentality and one that will perpetuate mediocrity forever as long at it exists.

Not denying this attitude exists out there, but a more prominent attitude exists by evidenced by the Prince dismissal.  If most backers of KSU football really believe as you describe, Prince could still be here today.  'Hey it's not as bad as the 1980s, give him another year or two.'  Prince was reluctantly let go by Krause/Wefald because they faced a mutiny of backers who were demanding much more.  That's a good thing, I agree, standards should be very high.  But let's not confuse deference for Snyder as an "anything is ok", perpetuate mediocrity attitude. 




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Kansas State Football / Re: Prince was Snyder's fault.
« on: October 09, 2010, 11:51:32 PM »
Good post, and welcome to the board.

No one (no one rational) is suggesting that Snyder doesn't deserve to have a great deal of credit for how we got to our lofty heights as a legitimate candidate for membership of a BCS conference.  We are solidly the Mississippi State of the Big 12 thanks in large part to his efforts.

However, to suggest that you can't make evaluations or predictions of where we will end up at this particular point in the season doesn't completely jibe with your original point.  You cited ISU, A&M, CU, and KU from last year as an example.  I'd say that after this next week, since we will have faced half of those teams, that we'll have a pretty good barometer of where we are, no?  I mean, you have sub in the Baylor game for the aTm game, but that's merely another week away past KU.

We didn't wait until the end of the season to fire Ron, was that a mistake?  I don't believe it was a mistake.

I get that our last two games are @CU and @UNT, so we should be optimistic about that, but after the Baylor game we are going to get foooocking blown out for three weeks in a row....should we judge Bill's team then?  

I cited those four games not as bellwethers to compare to this year. Different year different teams.  Those were performances I was not expecting to see given the start of the season.  The point is, one or two performances don't always translate into a trend.  Take the Tech game from 2009.  What a freaking disaster.  We gave up 587 yards against NU Thursday.  Any guesses what we gave up last year to Tech?  http://espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=292832641, try 739.

Comparing when Prince got canned to any official decision to be made on Snyder's employment is a complete non-starter.  Barring some type of scandal, Snyder absolutely deserves to finish out any season he is coaching (see my earlier post).  He has earned at least that from the University.  What kind of goodwill did Prince earn? 

I understand a major attraction to online sports boards is all the conjecture stuff.  The whole predictions pissing match, where you earn your community brownie points based on how many predictions you got right and can repost or link to later.  Maybe this season will tank for us like KU's did last year.  Maybe it won't and we get to a bowl.  I don't know.  We can talk and debate those kinds of things.  But for the people calling for Snyder's head:

1. Take a deep breath.
2. Get some perspective.
3. Set clear expectations (like: field a team and play football in 2009; go to bowl in 2010; go to a bowl and finish over .500 in Big 12 in 2011) etc.
3. Gather a body of work (like a full season or two or three) for evidence.
4. Make your case on your evidence--not on your clairvoyance.

So yeah, we should absolutely judge Bill's team.  Judge away.  But if you're going to call for a coaching change, then make a case on something more than hot air.  (Not making that point about your post, but to the general tone on the board the last couple of days).





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Kansas State Football / Re: Prince was Snyder's fault.
« on: October 09, 2010, 04:29:45 PM »
No one would be bitching had this coaching staff recruited 1 or 2 serviceable JC LB and 1 serviceable JC dual threat quarterback.    Nobody on this board is expecting a Big 12 Championship.   I still think there's plenty of opportunity to get bowl eligible, but if the defense continues to perform like they are . . . that has got to be reevaluated at the end the season, and we all saw what happened the last time Bill was getting pressure to make coaching changes.

So what's the rush?  Untangle your panties and let them dry out.  Wait until the end of the season and make your case then.  Do you know how this season will end?  After the LA Laf. game last year, did anyone on this board have a clue how we'd perform against ISU, A&M, CU, KU?  Take a look at this recap and watch the handy little video http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=302610264. Look familiar?  And what did Wash do next? 

Yeah, we have some major issues on Defense.  I saw some really ugly stuff from our LB's and safeties after watching my dvr'ed version. Got a major problem at QB. That's been an issue all season.  Let's see if they are addressed.  If not, then start whining all you want, I won't complain.  Hell, I'll even join you. 

Oh, and a little more perspective.... Without the resurgence in the early 90's, KSU could likely be playing in a different conference and division.  We were in violation of D1 season ticket sales standards (selling too few for several years) in the late 80's.  The Big 8 didn't want us.  May have even gone the way of WSU and dropped the program all together.  You think this board and ksufans.com before it would even exist based on our basketball success from 1989 - 2007?  Maybe, but I doubt it.  Maybe in some small way, your "sonofdaxjones" online persona is the result of Synder's work.

Just giving you a little static.  But seriously, what's the rush at this point? 


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