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Title: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Lefty on December 08, 2010, 11:58:38 AM
Just for clarification, I'm the leader of this wagon. I'm not a vocal leader by any means. More of an example type of guy.

Myles will lead us through big 12 play. Mark it.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Ghost of Stan Parrish on December 08, 2010, 12:01:59 PM
Better than Buchi?
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: kso_FAN on December 08, 2010, 12:04:57 PM
I'm just hoping he can be the next Duane Davis. 
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Lefty on December 08, 2010, 12:07:27 PM
He's kinda Chris Griffin'ish. Circa '97
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: steve dave on December 08, 2010, 12:16:25 PM
lol
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: EllToPay on December 08, 2010, 12:18:23 PM
Actual picture of Lefty's wagon:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_-w8X_8OV18k%2FSGV2-wWPlXI%2FAAAAAAAAA-M%2FHT1n8dBM7Tg%2Fs400%2Fempty%2Bwagon.jpg&hash=23513590bc9b02d3937dbde9a22e19f59f9258ca)
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: kso_FAN on December 08, 2010, 12:20:04 PM
He's kinda Chris Griffin'ish. Circa '97

Davis had much more upside.  His injury/off court issues may have ended Tom's career at K-State.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: I_have_purplewood on December 08, 2010, 12:23:24 PM
Actual picture of Lefty's wagon:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_-w8X_8OV18k%2FSGV2-wWPlXI%2FAAAAAAAAA-M%2FHT1n8dBM7Tg%2Fs400%2Fempty%2Bwagon.jpg&hash=23513590bc9b02d3937dbde9a22e19f59f9258ca)


Put a katpk logo  :katpakhead: (ftp://:katpakhead:)on the front of that and I'm jumping in with both feet.   :fistpump: (ftp://:fistpump:)
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Lefty on December 08, 2010, 12:26:56 PM
Actual picture of Lefty's wagon:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_-w8X_8OV18k%2FSGV2-wWPlXI%2FAAAAAAAAA-M%2FHT1n8dBM7Tg%2Fs400%2Fempty%2Bwagon.jpg&hash=23513590bc9b02d3937dbde9a22e19f59f9258ca)


Someone in my rough ridin' P.R. department is going down for leaking that crap. I haven't even had a chance to clean it up yet.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: kso_FAN on December 08, 2010, 12:29:34 PM
This campaign needs a slogan; something catchy with "Myles" and "wagon" in it.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: EllToPay on December 08, 2010, 12:31:05 PM
This campaign needs a slogan; something catchy with "Myles" and "wagon" in it.

'This wagon can go for Myles'


:ck:
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: pissclams on December 08, 2010, 12:31:52 PM
This campaign needs a slogan; something catchy with "Myles" and "wagon" in it.

1142 (the distance in miles between Ajax, Ontario and MHK)
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Tobias on December 08, 2010, 12:34:52 PM
Miles or kilometers?  This could get really confusing and have major implications...  :confused:
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: kso_FAN on December 08, 2010, 12:35:41 PM
Miles or kilometers?  This could get really confusing and have major implications...  :confused:

How about kilomyles?
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 08, 2010, 12:36:03 PM
I was thinking he was more of a Adam Lopez type, but hey, I've been wrong before  :dunno:
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 08, 2010, 12:41:46 PM
so juevol is now kilometer. this is really starting to shape up.

"spri"
"rodkey"
"kilometer"

only a few more and we'll have official nicknames for everybody.

wyatt-"kilometer off to rodkey. rodkey back to kilometer. kilometer dribble drive. dishes off to spri for the lay in."
stan-"great use of the pumpfake by spri again tonight. got his man to bite and it's another two points for the Q@tz. things are really rolling for the boys in black tonight"
wyatt-"yes they are stan"
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: FP TC etc. on December 08, 2010, 12:43:28 PM
His suck lasts for Myles.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: kso_FAN on December 08, 2010, 12:43:36 PM
I was thinking he was more of a Adam Lopez type, but hey, I've been wrong before  :dunno:

Not going to compare Myles to a quitter.  Yet.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Kat Kid on December 08, 2010, 12:47:05 PM
His suck lasts for Myles.

(that one song by The Who)

His suck will last for Myles and Myles
Myles and Myles and Myyyyyyyles

(need bizarre chum vid that would fit in clams more pls thread)
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 08, 2010, 12:55:45 PM
I was thinking he was more of a Adam Lopez type, but hey, I've been wrong before  :dunno:

Not going to compare Myles to a quitter.  Yet.

Lopez was a quitter? I just thought it was pretty clear he wasn't near the player his brother was at Pepperdine(Tan Tom couldn't get that legacy thing to work) and it was a mutual parting of ways. Have no clue where he wound up after his 1 glorious season of Cat hoops. ... he played Mike Bibby straight up in HS though! :woot:
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 08, 2010, 12:58:07 PM
I was thinking he was more of a Adam Lopez type, but hey, I've been wrong before  :dunno:

Not going to compare Myles to a quitter.  Yet.

Lopez was a quitter? I just thought it was pretty clear he wasn't near the player his brother was at Pepperdine(Tan Tom couldn't get that legacy thing to work) and it was a mutual parting of ways. Have no clue where he wound up after his 1 glorious season of Cat hoops. ... he played Mike Bibby straight up in HS though! :woot:

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.azroundup.com%2Fimages%2Fsports%2FNAU%2520Lumberjacks.gif&hash=3a658e1a06b5d90e80493012fc28608a2945e045)
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 08, 2010, 01:08:33 PM
 :thumbsup: for Adam the Lumberjack!
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: kso_FAN on December 08, 2010, 01:10:30 PM
:thumbsup: for Adam the Lumberjack!

Your assessment of Adam is pretty accurate. 

Myles isn't a quitter like Hubert yet.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 08, 2010, 01:27:13 PM
Good ol Anton, nothing like bringing in those JC D2 AA's to provide scoring punch  :ksu: (only the complete opposite of this)
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: kso_FAN on December 08, 2010, 01:29:12 PM
Good ol Anton, nothing like bringing in those JC D2 AA's to provide scoring punch  :ksu: (only the complete opposite of this)

Anton will always have the Bradley game winner. Nothing can take that away.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 08, 2010, 01:33:18 PM
Deep 3 from the wing circa December 1997 right? I'm sure it warms his heart to this very day.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on December 08, 2010, 01:35:38 PM
Deep 3 from the wing circa December 1997 right? I'm sure it warms his heart to this very day.

i know a couple of people that had tons of money on that game.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: kso_FAN on December 08, 2010, 01:38:55 PM
Deep 3 from the wing circa December 1997 right? I'm sure it warms his heart to this very day.

All 4-5K of us in the OOD went absolutely nuts. 
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on December 08, 2010, 01:39:41 PM
so juevol is now kilometer. this is really starting to shape up.

"spri"
"rodkey"
"kilometer"

only a few more and we'll have official nicknames for everybody.

wyatt-"kilometer off to rodkey. rodkey back to kilometer, between the rings. kilometer dribble drive. dishes off to spri for the lay in."
stan-"great use of the pumpfake by spri again tonight. got his man to bite and it's another two points for the Q@tz. things are really rolling for the boys in black tonight"
wyatt-"yes they are stan"
Heiped you out thre.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on December 08, 2010, 01:49:07 PM
Deep 3 from the wing circa December 1997 right? I'm sure it warms his heart to this very day.

All 4-5K of us in the OOD went absolutely nuts. 

Yeah, I made to make sure I showed up AT LEAST 30 minutes early to get those primo 10th row seats in the student section.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Bill Clarahan on December 08, 2010, 02:13:00 PM
Good ol Anton, nothing like bringing in those JC D2 AA's to provide scoring punch  :ksu: (only the complete opposite of this)

Anton will always have the Bradley game winner. Nothing can take that away.

I was mowing my lawn when that happened and I remember thinking, we're going to be good again.  couldn't have been more rough ridin' wrong :bang:

On another note, it must have been a warm fall that year :driving: my mower
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: number5 on December 08, 2010, 02:40:33 PM
Always need more leaders.

I'm Pota's bandwagon leader.  Not so quiet about it though....

I see Myles' potential too.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: FP TC etc. on December 08, 2010, 02:41:44 PM
Always need more leaders.

I'm Pota's bandwagon leader.  Not so quiet about it though....

I see Myles' potential too.

Would have pegged you as a Vic lover.  :users:
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: number5 on December 08, 2010, 02:42:24 PM
Always need more leaders.

I'm Pota's bandwagon leader.  Not so quiet about it though....

I see Myles' potential too.

Would have pegged you as a Vic lover.  :users:

Pota > Vic > Devon > Myles > Sprads
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: FP TC etc. on December 08, 2010, 02:44:32 PM
Always need more leaders.

I'm Pota's bandwagon leader.  Not so quiet about it though....

I see Myles' potential too.

Would have pegged you as a Vic lover.  :users:

Pota > Vic > Devon > Myles > Sprads

Nailed It!  :woot:
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: SleepFighter on December 08, 2010, 02:53:26 PM
Joules-vol has enough energy to power our environmentally conscious electric wagon for Myles between charges.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: number5 on December 08, 2010, 02:53:41 PM
I am impressed.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: SuperG on December 08, 2010, 03:00:03 PM
Juevol Myles Bandwagon = The fastest (and shortest) bandwagon in the state this year!
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Pett on December 08, 2010, 04:25:42 PM
Guys, I think he sucks and is the guy on the roster that is gonna be out next year. I don't know. Guess it's just me. Carry on.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: FP TC etc. on December 08, 2010, 04:46:23 PM
Guys, I think he sucks and is this guy on the roster that is gonna be next year. I don't know. Guess it's just me. Carry on.

Agreed. Hope you are right.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Stevesie60 on December 08, 2010, 06:46:38 PM
so juevol is now kilometer. this is really starting to shape up.

"spri"
"rodkey"
"kilometer"

only a few more and we'll have official nicknames for everybody.

wyatt-"kilometer off to rodkey. rodkey back to kilometer. kilometer dribble drive. dishes off to spri for the lay in."
stan-"great use of the pumpfake by spri again tonight. got his man to bite and it's another two points for the Q@tz. things are really rolling for the boys in black tonight"
wyatt-"yes they are stan"

How could you forget about Doc?
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: SuperG on December 08, 2010, 07:32:14 PM
Guys, I think he sucks and is this guy on the roster that is gonna be next year. I don't know. Guess it's just me. Carry on.

I think he's on the team almost exclusively because of his speed. It give us the potential to run the point like Denis last year. It remains to be seen if he can develop into even a fraction of the overall ballplayer that Denis became. I hope he does... but I'm not going to hold my breath.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: ChiComCat on December 08, 2010, 07:32:52 PM
Glad I'm not on this shitty wagon.  "Hey everyone, lets get excited about Myles after Alcorn St!!"  If you want to get excited about a mediocre-at-best player after playing mediocre against a shitty team, HenRob has been trying to get your attention for a couple years now
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Lefty on December 08, 2010, 08:10:24 PM
-Alcorn St is the only game he was permitted to get into a groove.
-He can actually dribble the ball and distribute it effectively. Unlike Doc, who appears to be dribbling with two right hands.
-He can penetrate and dish.
-He's got good speed.
-Sure his D is subpar, but Denis' was too. By big 12 play and when Frank acknowledges that Doc can't keep up with the faster athletes, he'll have to resort to play Kilomyles.

Sometimes you guys miss the obvious because you're trying to be too cool
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: ChiComCat on December 08, 2010, 08:25:00 PM
-Alcorn St is the only game he was permitted to get into a groove.
-He can actually dribble the ball and distribute it effectively. Unlike Doc, who appears to be dribbling with two right hands.
-He can penetrate and dish.
-He's got good speed.
-Sure his D is subpar, but Denis' was too. By big 12 play and when Frank acknowledges that Doc can't keep up with the faster athletes, he'll have to resort to play Kilomyles.

Sometimes you guys miss the obvious because you're trying to be too cool

I am not sold on any of this/have not seen it consistently.  If you want to say the sample size is too small so say he can't do thest things, fair enough.  But one game against probably our worst opponent yet will not convince me he can.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: wetwillie on December 08, 2010, 08:46:46 PM
-Alcorn St is the only game he was permitted to get into a groove.
-He can actually dribble the ball and distribute it effectively. Unlike Doc, who appears to be dribbling with two right hands.
-He can penetrate and dish.
-He's got good speed.
-Sure his D is subpar, but Denis' was too. By big 12 play and when Frank acknowledges that Doc can't keep up with the faster athletes, he'll have to resort to play Kilomyles.

Sometimes you guys miss the obvious because you're trying to be too cool

I am not sold on any of this/have not seen it consistently.  If you want to say the sample size is too small so say he can't do thest things, fair enough.  But one game against probably our worst opponent yet will not convince me he can.

Lefty reelin em in left and right in this thread.

Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Lefty on December 08, 2010, 11:06:21 PM
I can't wait to bump the crap out of this thread late February. I don't know what you followers have against the maple leaf, but the dude can play. The fact that Doc got used by Warshington St's guard, Duke's guards and picked up some quick fouls against Alcorn, proves my point that Doc is too slow to keep up. Doc is going to get eaten alive by Big 12 guards if he's going to be asked to run the team. Pullen played himself out of the point already. What's Frank supposed to do? What we saw against Alcorn was a tryout for Juevol. And to be Frank, he passed the test. 
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: gatoveintisiete on December 08, 2010, 11:12:44 PM
I'm with you Lefty, Canada is the only guy we have with enough handle to put pressure on a defense, he may not be good enough but he deserves a shot and he didn't fail in the Alcorn game.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: FP TC etc. on December 08, 2010, 11:39:21 PM
He's not all that fast.  :users:
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: jtksu on December 08, 2010, 11:45:02 PM
He's pretty damn fast.  Maybe a little too fast.  Also, he's pretty much nothing like Griffen.  People that say stupid crap like that probably never actually saw Griff play and were just trying to seem cool.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Trim on December 09, 2010, 06:57:14 AM
He's kinda Chris Griffin'ish. Circa '97

Griff was a hero.  This Canadian guy has a long way to go.  I'm not even sure he's real.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Lefty on January 03, 2011, 10:36:38 PM
Creeping up the ladder........
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Bill Grogans Goat on January 03, 2011, 11:01:29 PM
I can't wait to bump the cac out of this thread late February. I don't know what you followers have against the maple leaf, but the dude can play. The fact that Doc got used by Warshington St's guard, Duke's guards and picked up some quick fouls against Alcorn, proves my point that Doc is too slow to keep up. Doc is going to get eaten alive by Big 12 guards if he's going to be asked to run the team. Pullen played himself out of the point already. What's Frank supposed to do? What we saw against Alcorn was a tryout for Juevol. And to be Frank, he passed the test. 

I like what you did there.
Title: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: SuperKat on January 04, 2011, 02:52:12 PM
I have attended our last 2 games and watched Myles play and I think he is our best Point Guard. Even though he has not played a lot take a look at his production when he is on the court. I think the coaching staff knows it also, no matter who is on the court with him he plays PG; including when he is on with Will, Pull and Irving.
He is not as fast as Dennis was but he is damn fast and the fastest with the ball that we have, he shoots the 3 well and takes his man to the hole and finishes with contact. He shoots it well from the line; and God knows we need that. When big 12 play starts we will see a lot of real good, quick, aggressive guards and I think that Frank will play him more. With this teams run and gun style we could use him, we are not a half court walk up the ball team. Don’t be surprised if he becomes a starter by February.
I like this kid Myles a lot. He is also the most talkative guy weather he is on the bench or the floor. All Myles needs is more TP to continue to build his confidence
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: mcmwcat on January 04, 2011, 02:52:38 PM
pullen is the best PG
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: sys on January 04, 2011, 02:57:15 PM
superkat, that is a bold first post thread title.  what are your thoughts on 95?
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: SuperKat on January 04, 2011, 02:57:56 PM
Pullen is our best player but Pullen is not a PG, when he was playing PG spot it was frustrating to him, did you see Duke Game? I think Frank realizes it and that’s why he doesn’t really play PG any more.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: steve dave on January 04, 2011, 02:59:13 PM
You should have titled this thread:

The Reason We Are mumped
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Saulbadguy on January 04, 2011, 03:00:50 PM
I like the way he shoots free throws.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: jtksu on January 04, 2011, 03:05:21 PM
I like how HOT!! he is.   Seriously, that dude is a stone cold FOX!!!
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: steve dave on January 04, 2011, 03:07:32 PM
cas pointed out in chat that he looks like Geoffrey from Fresh Prince
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: jtksu on January 04, 2011, 03:12:03 PM
Might have to go back and watch me some old FPOBA episodes and see for myself.  Also, nice job using the "G" variation there.  You just know that guy would.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: OK_Cat on January 04, 2011, 03:15:42 PM
I have attended our last 2 games and watched Myles play and I think he is our best Point Guard. Even though he has not played a lot take a look at his production when he is on the court. I think the coaching staff knows it also, no matter who is on the court with him he plays PG; including when he is on with Will, Pull and Irving.
He is not as fast as Dennis was but he is damn fast and the fastest with the ball that we have, he shoots the 3 well and takes his man to the hole and finishes with contact. He shoots it well from the line; and God knows we need that. When big 12 play starts we will see a lot of real good, quick, aggressive guards and I think that Frank will play him more. With this teams run and gun style we could use him, we are not a half court walk up the ball team. Don’t be surprised if he becomes a starter by February.
I like this kid Myles a lot. He is also the most talkative guy weather he is on the bench or the floor. All Myles needs is more TP to continue to build his confidence


Looks like a squawk, talks like a squawk, must be a squawk. 
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Underdog Wildcat on January 04, 2011, 03:34:51 PM
Pullen is our best player but Pullen is not a PG, when he was playing PG spot it was frustrating to him, did you see Duke Game? I think Frank realizes it and that’s why he doesn’t really play PG any more.

This had more to do with him being outplayed by what was, before the Irving injury, the best backcourt in the country, and still could be even without him, rather than Pullen playing out of position. Sprads got time at the point in that game with Pullen playing off the ball during those stretches, and that didn't really increase his effectiveness during that game.

My take is that Pullen is still our best PG. When you take into account all the things you want a PG to bring to the table, ballhandling, good decision making, creating offense for himself and others, passing, I believe he has the best package of those skills above everyone else on our team.

The major dilemma is that he's also our best SG and the gap really isn't as close as it is at the PG spot. While he is a good penetrator and creator, his best skill and the most valuable asset he brings to the table is his ability to knock down spot up looks from deep in transition and those created for him in our halfcourt offense. Unfortunately, it's difficult to create those catch and shoot situations for him from deep when he's also our primary ballhandler and we don't really have anyone else on our roster who can duplicate his ability to make those shots, particularly when guarded.

So we're left searching the wilderness known as our roster for a PG who isn't necessarily a difference maker for us at that spot, but the guy who will hurt us the least.

I am encouraged by the progress Myles has shown in the last couple games and the possibility of offensive creativity he brings but he's really got to tighten up his handle and overall decision making if he's really going to be THE GUY  for us at the point.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: steve dave on January 04, 2011, 03:37:04 PM
I should note that I think Juevol sucks balls and ballsacks and taints
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: sys on January 04, 2011, 03:40:43 PM
there was a possession last night where they ran irving off picks to get him a baseline 3.  he missed.  looked ok shooting it.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: kougar24 on January 04, 2011, 03:50:07 PM
I have attended our last 2 games and watched Myles play and I think he is our best Point Guard. Even though he has not played a lot take a look at his production when he is on the court. I think the coaching staff knows it also, no matter who is on the court with him he plays PG; including when he is on with Will, Pull and Irving.
He is not as fast as Dennis was but he is damn fast and the fastest with the ball that we have, he shoots the 3 well and takes his man to the hole and finishes with contact. He shoots it well from the line; and God knows we need that. When big 12 play starts we will see a lot of real good, quick, aggressive guards and I think that Frank will play him more. With this teams run and gun style we could use him, we are not a half court walk up the ball team. Don’t be surprised if he becomes a starter by February.
I like this kid Myles a lot. He is also the most talkative guy weather he is on the bench or the floor. All Myles needs is more TP to continue to build his confidence


Why, are his poops unusually messy?
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: michigancat on January 04, 2011, 04:19:43 PM
myles is still setting up for his last fta.  christ almighty.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Poster formerly known as jthutch on January 04, 2011, 04:20:15 PM
I should note that I think Juevol sucks balls and ballsacks and taints

Hey, I can see ballsacks and taints but the balls themselves?  I don't think he sucks quit that hard.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: cas4ksu on January 04, 2011, 04:27:02 PM
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgrfx.cstv.com%2Fphotos%2Fschools%2Fksu%2Fsports%2Fm-baskbl%2Fauto_headshot%2F5831641.jpeg&hash=1caa1359774c560bbe412ca1c4e0466de9b754d9)

(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmattgunn.files.wordpress.com%2F2007%2F06%2Fgeoffreybutler_fp1.jpg&hash=23da4d510312a2f303ed8366f379557a10a9703e)

keep in mine that juevol now has the beard going.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 04, 2011, 04:33:36 PM
I like players that look smooth out there and well....he doesn't.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Winters on January 04, 2011, 04:35:22 PM
MAPLE LEAF!
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 04, 2011, 04:45:01 PM
I don't hate him as much as I thought I might.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: FP TC etc. on January 04, 2011, 04:46:56 PM
This man has attended the last 2 basketball games.  He obviously knows what he's talking about. (aboot?)
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: CNS on January 04, 2011, 05:05:44 PM
I only attended one of the last two gamesand I like Canada.  I like him better than tay and nick. 

want to see him and jake as combos.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: theymightbegiants on January 04, 2011, 05:16:44 PM
Air Canada, Get Your Air Myles  :fatty:
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: pissclams on January 04, 2011, 05:33:00 PM
who the eff is juevol myles and why is he in my boxer shorts?
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 04, 2011, 06:34:16 PM
myles is still setting up for his last fta.  christ almighty.

:lol:
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Cire on January 04, 2011, 06:55:24 PM
I don't hate him as much as I thought I might.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: catzacker on January 04, 2011, 07:33:20 PM
i hate him.  i'd rather watch 95 just running around all athlete-y, than watch strange brew get anymore minutes.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Pete on January 04, 2011, 07:35:47 PM
i hate him.  i'd rather watch 95 just running around all athlete-y, than watch strange brew get anymore minutes.

strange brew is good.

I was secretly hoping that he'd be money from three so I could bust out the "Canadian Makin'."
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Andy on January 04, 2011, 07:38:29 PM
you can't tell anything from the last 3 games.  see:jim wooldridge home non-cons
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: PowercatPat on January 04, 2011, 08:18:29 PM
Pullen, Russell, and Irving are all better PG's than Myles.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: bonercat on January 04, 2011, 08:34:42 PM
I have attended our last 2 games and watched Myles play and I think he is our best Point Guard. Even though he has not played a lot take a look at his production when he is on the court. I think the coaching staff knows it also, no matter who is on the court with him he plays PG; including when he is on with Will, Pull and Irving.
He is not as fast as Dennis was but he is damn fast and the fastest with the ball that we have, he shoots the 3 well and takes his man to the hole and finishes with contact. He shoots it well from the line; and God knows we need that. When big 12 play starts we will see a lot of real good, quick, aggressive guards and I think that Frank will play him more. With this teams run and gun style we could use him, we are not a half court walk up the ball team. Don’t be surprised if he becomes a starter by February.
I like this kid Myles a lot. He is also the most talkative guy weather he is on the bench or the floor. All Myles needs is more TP to continue to build his confidence


Why, are his poops unusually messy?

 :facepalm: come on Kougs, you're better than that
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Benja on January 04, 2011, 08:35:21 PM
I don't really have much of an opinion on this either way, but 95 needs hella more minutes. and probs his very own jersey as well.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Dugout DickStone on January 04, 2011, 08:40:04 PM
i hate him.  i'd rather watch 95 just running around all athlete-y, than watch strange brew get anymore minutes.

strange brew is good.

I was secretly hoping that he'd be money from three so I could bust out the "Canadian Makin'."

Instead it's "Canadian Missed!" amirite Pete!?
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Stevesie60 on January 04, 2011, 09:42:50 PM
I don't really have much of an opinion on this either way, but 95 needs hella more minutes. and probs his very own jersey as well.

95 looked great until last night. He looked completely lost on offense, then went down to the other side of the court and was completely lost there as well. Then got pulled until his minutes with Potz.

Thought I would hate Myles. WANTED to hate Myles. I may stop hating him completely if he starts making his shots when he drives to the basket.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: sys on January 04, 2011, 09:46:33 PM
95 looked great until last night. He looked completely lost on offense, then went down to the other side of the court and was completely lost there as well. Then got pulled until his minutes with Potz.

Thought I would hate Myles. WANTED to hate Myles. I may stop hating him completely if he starts making his shots when he drives to the basket.

myles was lost on offense some too.  not as obvious since he's the pg and usually has the ball, but ojeleye was directing him on where to be a couple of times.

i'd prefer myles to stop putting his head down and driving blindly into traffic rather than him make those.  making them would just encourage him.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Immaculate1 on January 04, 2011, 09:53:06 PM
I just want us to win. If Myles gives us the best opportunity to win ball games, I support that.



Looking like good foresight so far Lefty.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: FP TC etc. on January 04, 2011, 09:53:21 PM
Tay is much better than Myles, tards.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Trim on January 04, 2011, 10:12:55 PM
All Myles needs is more TP to continue to build his confidence

Daris was ridiculously confident after TP told him to kill himself in the back.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Dr Rick Daris on January 05, 2011, 07:51:55 AM
He's kinda Chris Griffin'ish. Circa '97

Griff was a hero.  This Canadian guy has a long way to go.  I'm not even sure he's real.

remember when he was still a cougar and scored like 12 points against ucla or something. i mean, wow.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: skycat on January 05, 2011, 03:47:19 PM
i hate him.  i'd rather watch 95 just running around all athlete-y, than watch strange brew get anymore minutes.

strange brew is good.

I was secretly hoping that he'd be money from three so I could bust out the "Canadian Makin'."

Bust it out. Juevol is 5 for 6 from behind the arc.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=41887
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: skycat on January 05, 2011, 03:57:12 PM
Juevol hasn't had enough playing time to make a final determination, but so far his numbers look more like a SG than a PG. His A/T ratio is only 1.0 but his true shooting pct is 77.6. No doubt this number will go down, but still, that's fantastic.

Compare his stats with our other PGs/combos:

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=nick-russell&p1=2-juevol-myles&p2=jacob-pullen&p3=will-spradling&p4=martavious-irving
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: kso_FAN on January 07, 2011, 11:09:41 AM
Juevol hasn't had enough playing time to make a final determination, but so far his numbers look more like a SG than a PG. His A/T ratio is only 1.0 but his true shooting pct is 77.6. No doubt this number will go down, but still, that's fantastic.

Compare his stats with our other PGs/combos:

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/compare?add=nick-russell&p1=2-juevol-myles&p2=jacob-pullen&p3=will-spradling&p4=martavious-irving

LOL at the Sprads haters.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: Panjandrum on January 07, 2011, 11:46:12 AM
i hate him.  i'd rather watch 95 just running around all athlete-y, than watch strange brew get anymore minutes.

strange brew is good.

I was secretly hoping that he'd be money from three so I could bust out the "Canadian Makin'."

Instead it's "Canadian Missed!" amirite Pete!?

I've been going with Canadian Assassin.

I like it.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: sys on January 07, 2011, 12:38:58 PM
LOL at the Sprads haters.

i've been getting very tired of the "he's slow; can't defend" stuff.  may attack those people soon.  oth, i'm also disappointed with his offense lately.  seemed to make better decisions and was more aggressive through the first 5 games or so than since.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: kougar24 on January 07, 2011, 12:40:31 PM
LOL at the Sprads haters.

i've been getting very tired of the "he's slow; can't defend" stuff.  may attack those people soon.  oth, i'm also disappointed with his offense lately.  seemed to make better decisions and was more aggressive through the first 5 games or so than since.

Tired of it because you disagree, or tired of it because it's obvious?
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: kso_FAN on January 07, 2011, 12:41:18 PM
LOL at the Sprads haters.

i've been getting very tired of the "he's slow; can't defend" stuff.  may attack those people soon.  oth, i'm also disappointed with his offense lately.  seemed to make better decisions and was more aggressive through the first 5 games or so than since.

He's hitting 3s again so I'm pretty good with Sprads' offense.  I'm not sure the less agressive isn't by design.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: sys on January 07, 2011, 12:44:57 PM
Tired of it because you disagree, or tired of it because it's obvious?

disagree, and because it's stupid/based on stereotype rather than observation.


ex. - somehow when spradling gets beat it's 'cause he's slow while when russell gets beat it's because he doesn't practice intensely. 
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: kso_FAN on January 07, 2011, 12:45:16 PM
Tired of it because you disagree, or tired of it because it's obvious?

Its way exaggerated by our fanbase just like it was way exaggerated when it was said about Clemente.

This isn't to say that it doesn't happen, b/c it does, but a lot of that is b/c Sprads is actually trying to play defense the way he's asked to play it, just like Clemente did.  He wouldn't consistently get minutes like he does otherwise; there is a reason that he's only had 2 games all year where he played less than 17 minutes and only 4 under 20 minutes.  
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: sys on January 07, 2011, 12:46:18 PM
I'm not sure the less aggressive isn't by design.

you're probably right.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: pissclams on January 07, 2011, 12:55:59 PM
LOL at the Sprads haters.

i've been getting very tired of the "he's slow; can't defend" stuff.  may attack those people soon.  oth, i'm also disappointed with his offense lately.  seemed to make better decisions and was more aggressive through the first 5 games or so than since.
i thik it's just a low experience vs more minutes thing.  the more time he's getting the more mistakes he makes. 
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: mcmwcat on January 07, 2011, 01:04:07 PM
Sprads isn't slow but he isn't fast.  He needs to play faster bringing the ball up the floor.  He started off well in this respect but I think the Duke game messed with him.  I'm of the opinion that Russell should be starting w/ Pullen in the back court.

Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: kso_FAN on January 07, 2011, 01:10:09 PM
Sprads isn't slow but he isn't fast.  He needs to play faster bringing the ball up the floor.  He started off well in this respect but I think the Duke game messed with him.  I'm of the opinion that Russell should be starting w/ Pullen in the back court.

I like Russell, but I've seen nothing to show me he needs more minutes at PG. 

And Sprads does fine pushing the ball and is probably our 2nd best passer (behind Pullen) on the break.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: kougar24 on January 07, 2011, 01:10:51 PM
Tired of it because you disagree, or tired of it because it's obvious?

disagree, and because it's stupid/based on stereotype rather than observation.


ex. - somehow when spradling gets beat it's 'cause he's slow while when russell gets beat it's because he doesn't practice intensely. 

Gotcha.

However, I'm not convinced Russell isn't slow too. :dunno:
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: catzacker on January 07, 2011, 01:15:20 PM
can I stick with the "all of our guards get beat off the ball way too much" talking point?  i don't discriminate. 
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: mcmwcat on January 07, 2011, 01:16:31 PM
Sprads isn't slow but he isn't fast.  He needs to play faster bringing the ball up the floor.  He started off well in this respect but I think the Duke game messed with him.  I'm of the opinion that Russell should be starting w/ Pullen in the back court.

I like Russell, but I've seen nothing to show me he needs more minutes at PG. 

And Sprads does fine pushing the ball and is probably our 2nd best passer (behind Pullen) on the break.

don't care if Russell is playing PG or not when he's on the floor with Pullen
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: kso_FAN on January 07, 2011, 01:26:41 PM
Sprads isn't slow but he isn't fast.  He needs to play faster bringing the ball up the floor.  He started off well in this respect but I think the Duke game messed with him.  I'm of the opinion that Russell should be starting w/ Pullen in the back court.

I like Russell, but I've seen nothing to show me he needs more minutes at PG. 

And Sprads does fine pushing the ball and is probably our 2nd best passer (behind Pullen) on the break.

don't care if Russell is playing PG or not when he's on the floor with Pullen

Fair enough. 

My problem with Russell is that Frank seems to be doing everything possible to try to get him minutes and Russell seems to be doing everything possible to not earn them.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: sys on January 07, 2011, 01:43:41 PM
However, I'm not convinced Russell isn't slow too. :dunno:

i think russell is prolly a touch slower than spradling.  but i don't think either is particularly slow (or a particularly bad defender; not good, but not consistently & notably bad).



more than anything, i don't think footspeed is terribly well correlated with defensive performance.  pullen didn't get any faster between his freshman to junior year.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: kougar24 on January 07, 2011, 01:56:18 PM
However, I'm not convinced Russell isn't slow too. :dunno:

i think russell is prolly a touch slower than spradling.  but i don't think either is particularly slow (or a particularly bad defender; not good, but not consistently & notably bad).



more than anything, i don't think footspeed is terribly well correlated with defensive performance.  pullen didn't get any faster between his freshman to junior year.


I'm okay with all of that.


can I stick with the "all of our guards get beat off the ball way too much" talking point?  i don't discriminate. 

Also okay with this, which is why I was trying to redirect dax's backdoor cuts anger to where it belongs: on-ball defense.
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: SuperKat on January 07, 2011, 02:44:43 PM
Will may not be that fast but I think he makes up with his hustle and basketball IQ.



 
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: wetwillie on January 07, 2011, 02:45:27 PM
Will may not be that fast but I think he makes up with his hustle and basketball IQ.



 

don't forget floor burns, grit, heart etc.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: SuperKat on January 07, 2011, 02:46:41 PM
Really good article on Myles @ http://blogs.kansas.com/kstated/2011/01/05/juevol-myles-moves-into-playing-rotation/#
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: WillieWatanabe on January 07, 2011, 02:51:04 PM
Will may not be that fast but I think he makes up with his hustle and basketball IQ.


don't forget floor burns, grit, heart etc.

Intangibles. My Sister's friend said that he has huge intangibles. HUGE.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: mcmwcat on January 07, 2011, 02:51:24 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: sys on January 07, 2011, 02:51:47 PM
Will may not be that fast but I think he makes up with his hustle and basketball IQ.

 :gocho:
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: mcmwcat on January 07, 2011, 02:52:19 PM
SuperKat droppin' knowledge
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: yoga-like_abana on January 07, 2011, 03:00:30 PM
All I want is Will to slap both hands on the floor on D once, just once!
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: kso_FAN on January 07, 2011, 03:08:58 PM
Myles has a weird shot. Almost like Billy Thomas or something.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: Skipper44 on January 07, 2011, 03:12:07 PM
He's kinda Chris Griffin'ish. Circa '97

Griff was a hero.  This Canadian guy has a long way to go.  I'm not even sure he's real.

remember when he was still a cougar and scored like 12 points against ucla or something. i mean, wow.
remember when he pinned a Jacque Vaughn layup in the Bram in '97 -  easily his KSU career highlight IMO
Title: Re: Juevol Myles is the best PG we have
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2011, 03:15:22 PM
All I want is Will to slap both hands on the floor on D once, just once!

Would make an amazing gif.

Movie idea if this ever happens.  He slaps the floor, and all the opposing players immediately teeter and fall like his slapped shakes the court and knocks them down.  Then Sprads roars in triumph.

Would love this.
Title: Re: Myles bandwagon leader
Post by: CNS on January 07, 2011, 03:16:06 PM
Myles has a weird shot. Almost like Billy Thomas or something.

Yes.  Develops slow and comes way back and down.