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Anyone know if there's anything to Wally's absence (minutes)? :confused:
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I think its possible he really might be sick, or missed enough practice b/c of being sick that Frank didn't want to play him. Frank was asked about him last week and he was very complimentary and said he wasn't starting b/c he was being just being nice to him.
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Anyone know if there's anything to Wally's absence (minutes)? :confused:
yeah. he sucks.
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wally judge is like the black john rettiger but maybe worse. maybe george hill would be a better comparo.
either way, all i know is that he won't be all big 12 this season.
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maybe george hill would be a better comparo.
That's a low blow. Wally has been unspectacular; but to compare to George... wow.
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maybe george hill would be a better comparo.
That's a low blow. Wally has been unspectacular; but to compare to George... wow.
i'm just really hurt by wally. actually, i'm not. he's never been a back to the basket guy. more disappointed in frank not finding a place for wally in his offense and just continuing to try and put a square peg in a round hole.
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maybe george hill would be a better comparo.
That's a low blow. Wally has been unspectacular; but to compare to George... wow.
i'm just really hurt by wally. actually, i'm not. he's never been a back to the basket guy. more disappointed in frank not finding a place for wally in his offense and just continuing to try and put a square peg in a round hole.
I see that. I thought he showed some glimpses of what he can potentially do during the Gonzaga game.
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maybe george hill would be a better comparo.
That's a low blow. Wally has been unspectacular; but to compare to George... wow.
i'm just really hurt by wally. actually, i'm not. he's never been a back to the basket guy. more disappointed in frank not finding a place for wally in his offense and just continuing to try and put a square peg in a round hole.
This is the real issue.
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i just think he needs to catch the ball facing the basket and make his moves from 10-12 feet out. similar to amare stoudemire's style of game. frank seems to think he can teach him to bang like jamar, who by the way, is the strongest player on the blocks in america.
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maybe george hill would be a better comparo.
That's a low blow. Wally has been unspectacular; but to compare to George... wow.
i'm just really hurt by wally. actually, i'm not. he's never been a back to the basket guy. more disappointed in frank not finding a place for wally in his offense and just continuing to try and put a square peg in a round hole.
Excellent point - hadn't looked at it that way - always assumed it was purely a lack of confidence that kept Wally from breaking out.
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i just think he needs to catch the ball facing the basket and make his moves from 10-12 feet out. similar to amare stoudemire's style of game. frank seems to think he can teach him to bang like jamar, who by the way, is the strongest player on the blocks in america.
Frank wants Freddy at the top of the post for his mythological passing/offensive ability. Bumped Wally back down to low post/bench.
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good call, fellas. using him differently on offense will correct his crap rebounding and crap defense.
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i just think he needs to catch the ball facing the basket and make his moves from 10-12 feet out. similar to amare stoudemire's style of game. frank seems to think he can teach him to bang like jamar, who by the way, is the strongest player on the blocks in america.
Frank wants Freddy at the top of the post for his mythological passing/offensive ability. Bumped Wally back down to low post/bench.
Freddy is an excellent passer and has nice footwork. That's more than you can say for Wally Judge.
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i just think he needs to catch the ball facing the basket and make his moves from 10-12 feet out. similar to amare stoudemire's style of game. frank seems to think he can teach him to bang like jamar, who by the way, is the strongest player on the blocks in america.
Frank wants Freddy at the top of the post for his mythological passing/offensive ability. Bumped Wally back down to low post/bench.
Freddy is an excellent passer and has nice footwork. That's more than you can say for Wally Judge.
His feet look amazing when he does his spin moves/pump fakes right up until the whistle blows for traveling.
I do like his passing.
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I said in chat the other night and will say it again here . . . you should all join me in hoping that Freddy won't have to suffer through another Kansas winter next year as he works the skimmer in Art's pool and goes and picks up Art's dry cleaning.
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His feet look amazing when he does his spin moves/pump fakes right up until the whistle blows for traveling.
I do like his passing.
Ah, but one of these days, that whistle won't be blown, and it will be glorious.
:)
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good call, fellas. using him differently on offense will correct his crap rebounding and crap defense.
but it wood.
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good call, fellas. using him differently on offense will correct his crap rebounding and crap defense.
but it wood.
Boom!
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i just think he needs to catch the ball facing the basket and make his moves from 10-12 feet out. similar to amare stoudemire's style of game. frank seems to think he can teach him to bang like jamar, who by the way, is the strongest player on the blocks in america.
Frank wants Freddy at the top of the post for his mythological passing/offensive ability. Bumped Wally back down to low post/bench.
If Wally can't beat Freddy out for that spot, it's Wally's fault (and maybe Frank's if he's doing it because Freddy is latino).
I personally like Wally, and think once he gets back into the flow will be a solid contributor (not all-conf). I really think confidence is his biggest problem (other than a broken neck and the flu).
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If Wally can't beat Freddy out for that spot, it's Wally's fault (and maybe Frank's if he's doing it because Freddy is latino).
seriously?
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i just think he needs to catch the ball facing the basket and make his moves from 10-12 feet out. similar to amare stoudemire's style of game. frank seems to think he can teach him to bang like jamar, who by the way, is the strongest player on the blocks in america.
Frank wants Freddy at the top of the post for his mythological passing/offensive ability. Bumped Wally back down to low post/bench.
If Wally can't beat Freddy out for that spot, it's Wally's fault (and maybe Frank's if he's doing it because Freddy is latino).
I personally like Wally, and think once he gets back into the flow will be a solid contributor (not all-conf). I really think confidence is his biggest problem (other than a broken neck and the flu).
Wally and Freddie usually start/play together.
The minutes breakdown for the posts has been about what I thought. More minutes for Samuels (21.4 MPG) and Kelly (20.4), then Freddie (19) and Judge (15.8). Then JHR (12.4). I suppose Judge could've played a bit more, but none of those guys are going to play a bunch more than 20 MPG game.
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good call, fellas. using him differently on offense will correct his cac rebounding and cac defense.
At first I lolled, but then I realized if he is going to be out there 15+ minutes a night and suck at those things I want him to make more bucketz.
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Here are the old ESPN evals on Wally.
December 2008, Wally is one of the top talents in the 2009 class. He is a skilled post player with good hands, touch and athletic ability. He is solid in the low post but scores mostly facing the basket. He is a decent shooter with range to 17 feet. He can also put the ball on the floor and slash to the basket. He is most dangerous catching the ball within 12 feet of the basket. Judge is a solid rebounder who can rebound outside of his area when motivated. He is an ok defender but sometimes struggles to sustain his effort and concentration. He is a pretty good shotblocker and runs the court well. Wally is an effective passer in the half court set. He has solid vision and creativeness. He has signed with Kansas State where he should be an impact player immediately.
June 2008, Judge is a skilled combo forward :horrorsurprise: who can be productive both inside and out. His biggest problem right now is his inconsistency, as he can be dominating a game at one minute and then virtually disappear the next. But he has all the tools to be a big time player: size, strength, athleticism, and basketball skills. He has done a nice job of filling out his physique as he has transformed himself from a wiry athlete into a powerful athlete with a strong frame. He is also a major mismatch problem as he can take smaller defenders to the block (although he would do well to improve his footwork) or knock down the open three-pointer when his feet are set. He likes to face up and attack from both the mid and high post, and does a nice job of attacking the rim aggressively and consequently getting himself to the free-throw line.
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there was a guy on kstatefans that posted something like "don't expect to see wally for a few games, he has some personal issues he's sorting out". it was in response to a dude saying he thought judge was being kept out for practicing poorly, so he also said that judge is a beast in practice.
they guy didn't respond to any of the posts requesting clarification.
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Here are the old ESPN evals on Wally.
December 2008, Wally is one of the top talents in the 2009 class. He is a skilled post player with good hands, touch and athletic ability. He is solid in the low post but scores mostly facing the basket. He is a decent shooter with range to 17 feet. He can also put the ball on the floor and slash to the basket. He is most dangerous catching the ball within 12 feet of the basket. Judge is a solid rebounder who can rebound outside of his area when motivated. He is an ok defender but sometimes struggles to sustain his effort and concentration. He is a pretty good shotblocker and runs the court well. Wally is an effective passer in the half court set. He has solid vision and creativeness. He has signed with Kansas State where he should be an impact player immediately.
June 2008, Judge is a skilled combo forward :horrorsurprise: who can be productive both inside and out. His biggest problem right now is his inconsistency, as he can be dominating a game at one minute and then virtually disappear the next. But he has all the tools to be a big time player: size, strength, athleticism, and basketball skills. He has done a nice job of filling out his physique as he has transformed himself from a wiry athlete into a powerful athlete with a strong frame. He is also a major mismatch problem as he can take smaller defenders to the block (although he would do well to improve his footwork) or knock down the open three-pointer when his feet are set. He likes to face up and attack from both the mid and high post, and does a nice job of attacking the rim aggressively and consequently getting himself to the free-throw line.
Would love to have this kid
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Wally is much more raw than the fans or evaluators anticipated. Some of it is confidence as Frank has pointed out several times.
I think Wally will be a very good player here, hopefully as soon as this year, but more likely his JR and SR seasons. He has too many tools not to be unless he is a complete headcase, and I don't think he is.
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I think he was sick last week. Either way I think he's coming to the realization that the NBA is not in his future and is trying to come to terms with what he's going to do. Could still make a good living playing basketball somewhere.
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Upside: 4 year player.
I hope.
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maybe george hill would be a better comparo.
That's a low blow. Wally has been unspectacular; but to compare to George... wow.
Clearly, this guy would be the best comparo of past Q@z due to McD AA status
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maybe george hill would be a better comparo.
That's a low blow. Wally has been unspectacular; but to compare to George... wow.
Clearly, this guy would be the best comparo of past Q@z due to McD AA status
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft1.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcRdEXq3mP4PgwlxHqatIWg_zfXUGUHB_a0MwEJwbBoZGNXGOrWQ2g&hash=7c0a3257aa0ed44b0d7abfeee35fedffd0ee4afc)
Loved the Secretary of Defense.
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Hopefully Wally does not need the same change of scenery :ohno:
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If Wally can't beat Freddy out for that spot, it's Wally's fault (and maybe Frank's if he's doing it because Freddy is latino).
seriously?
joke
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If Wally can't beat Freddy out for that spot, it's Wally's fault (and maybe Frank's if he's doing it because Freddy is latino).
seriously?
joke
oh, ok. reel'd me in.
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i just think he needs to catch the ball facing the basket and make his moves from 10-12 feet out. similar to amare stoudemire's style of game. frank seems to think he can teach him to bang like jamar, who by the way, is the strongest player on the blocks in america.
Frank wants Freddy at the top of the post for his mythological passing/offensive ability. Bumped Wally back down to low post/bench.
If Wally can't beat Freddy out for that spot, it's Wally's fault (and maybe Frank's if he's doing it because Freddy is latino).
I personally like Wally, and think once he gets back into the flow will be a solid contributor (not all-conf). I really think confidence is his biggest problem (other than a broken neck and the flu).
Wally and Freddie usually start/play together.
The minutes breakdown for the posts has been about what I thought. More minutes for Samuels (21.4 MPG) and Kelly (20.4), then Freddie (19) and Judge (15.8). Then JHR (12.4). I suppose Judge could've played a bit more, but none of those guys are going to play a bunch more than 20 MPG game.
Doesn't this fact have more to do with JamSam and CKel missing games due to eye hernias, etc., rather than the actual rotation???
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i just think he needs to catch the ball facing the basket and make his moves from 10-12 feet out. similar to amare stoudemire's style of game. frank seems to think he can teach him to bang like jamar, who by the way, is the strongest player on the blocks in america.
Frank wants Freddy at the top of the post for his mythological passing/offensive ability. Bumped Wally back down to low post/bench.
If Wally can't beat Freddy out for that spot, it's Wally's fault (and maybe Frank's if he's doing it because Freddy is latino).
I personally like Wally, and think once he gets back into the flow will be a solid contributor (not all-conf). I really think confidence is his biggest problem (other than a broken neck and the flu).
Wally and Freddie usually start/play together.
The minutes breakdown for the posts has been about what I thought. More minutes for Samuels (21.4 MPG) and Kelly (20.4), then Freddie (19) and Judge (15.8). Then JHR (12.4). I suppose Judge could've played a bit more, but none of those guys are going to play a bunch more than 20 MPG game.
Doesn't this fact have more to do with JamSam and CKel missing games due to eye hernias, etc., rather than the actual rotation???
Kelly's only starts have been the last two games when Judge didn't play.
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i just think he needs to catch the ball facing the basket and make his moves from 10-12 feet out. similar to amare stoudemire's style of game. frank seems to think he can teach him to bang like jamar, who by the way, is the strongest player on the blocks in america.
Frank wants Freddy at the top of the post for his mythological passing/offensive ability. Bumped Wally back down to low post/bench.
If Wally can't beat Freddy out for that spot, it's Wally's fault (and maybe Frank's if he's doing it because Freddy is latino).
I personally like Wally, and think once he gets back into the flow will be a solid contributor (not all-conf). I really think confidence is his biggest problem (other than a broken neck and the flu).
Wally and Freddie usually start/play together.
The minutes breakdown for the posts has been about what I thought. More minutes for Samuels (21.4 MPG) and Kelly (20.4), then Freddie (19) and Judge (15.8). Then JHR (12.4). I suppose Judge could've played a bit more, but none of those guys are going to play a bunch more than 20 MPG game.
Doesn't this fact have more to do with JamSam and CKel missing games due to eye hernias, etc., rather than the actual rotation???
Kelly's only starts have been the last two games when Judge didn't play.
Right, how can you know the rotation, when none of those big guys have all been "available" on the same night?
Real question, what is the likelihood that Wally and Freddy continue to be on the floor at the same time throughout the remainder of the year??? IMO, each of those guys plays the high v. low based more on who we're playing and the defense (zone v. man) that their particular strength at one spot or the other.
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If Wally can't beat Freddy out for that spot, it's Wally's fault (and maybe Frank's if he's doing it because Freddy is latino).
seriously?
OMG!!!111!!! reverse racism!!! :runaway:
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Right, how can you know the rotation, when none of those big guys have all been "available" on the same night?
Real question, what is the likelihood that Wally and Freddy continue to be on the floor at the same time throughout the remainder of the year??? IMO, each of those guys plays the high v. low based more on who we're playing and the defense (zone v. man) that their particular strength at one spot or the other.
Fair questions and its hard to tell the answer right now.
I think Frank will rotate about any combination of those guys in together. He trusts Asprilla and he's going to play nearly 20 MPG. Kelly and Samuels will get the most b/c they clearly bring the best offense, but I think they are both at their best playing less than 25 MPG. Judge will get at least 15, it will be up to performance to get more. Then JHR will get the rest.
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I think Frank will rotate about any combination of those guys in together. He trusts Asprilla and he's going to play nearly 20 MPG. Kelly and Samuels will get the most b/c they clearly bring the best offense, but I think they are both at their best playing less than 25 MPG. Judge will get at least 15, it will be up to performance to get more. Then JHR will get the rest.
20+24+24+16 = more than 80. so when all the decent bigs have all their various weird issues that cause martin not to play them resolved, jhr will never see the court.
:pray:
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I think Frank will rotate about any combination of those guys in together. He trusts Asprilla and he's going to play nearly 20 MPG. Kelly and Samuels will get the most b/c they clearly bring the best offense, but I think they are both at their best playing less than 25 MPG. Judge will get at least 15, it will be up to performance to get more. Then JHR will get the rest.
20+24+24+16 = more than 80. so when all the decent bigs have all their various weird issues that cause martin not to play them resolved, jhr will never see the court.
:pray:
True. But those averages never add up to 80 for the season. Probably be closer to 85 given variations in line-ups, buy in or quit games, etc. JHR will still end up around 10 MPG I'd guess.
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JHR will still end up around 10 MPG I'd guess.
:cry:
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there was a guy on kstatefans that posted something like "don't expect to see wally for a few games, he has some personal issues he's sorting out". it was in response to a dude saying he thought judge was being kept out for practicing poorly, so he also said that judge is a beast in practice.
they guy didn't respond to any of the posts requesting clarification.
Was he reputable?
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there was a guy on kstatefans that posted something like "don't expect to see wally for a few games, he has some personal issues he's sorting out". it was in response to a dude saying he thought judge was being kept out for practicing poorly, so he also said that judge is a beast in practice.
they guy didn't respond to any of the posts requesting clarification.
Was he reputable?
seemed legitish. dunno.
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maybe george hill would be a better comparo.
That's a low blow. Wally has been unspectacular; but to compare to George... wow.
Clearly, this guy would be the best comparo of past Q@z due to McD AA status
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft1.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcRdEXq3mP4PgwlxHqatIWg_zfXUGUHB_a0MwEJwbBoZGNXGOrWQ2g&hash=7c0a3257aa0ed44b0d7abfeee35fedffd0ee4afc)
I loved that team. Beane, Collier, Jackson, Ski and Cunningham, me in the front row (not wearing a purple blazer) of the student section going crazy for the "Cardiac Cats" as Mitch used to call them.
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The McDonald's All American distinction is clearly a jinx for us.
As far as Wally's class goes, is there another McD All American that you wouldn't trade Wally for? I haven't gone back and reviewed each, but how many of them are there that have produced materially less than Wally?
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The McDonald's All American distinction is clearly a jinx for us.
As far as Wally's class goes, is there another McD All American that you wouldn't trade Wally for? I haven't gone back and reviewed each, but how many of them are there that have produced materially less than Wally?
Wasn't he in the same class as Born Ready?
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The McDonald's All American distinction is clearly a jinx for us.
Michael Beasley turned out all right.
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The McDonald's All American distinction is clearly a jinx for us.
Michael Beasley turned out all right.
OK, ya, my theory is not so good....DC and Wally though :flush:
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there was a guy on kstatefans that posted something like "don't expect to see wally for a few games, he has some personal issues he's sorting out". it was in response to a dude saying he thought judge was being kept out for practicing poorly, so he also said that judge is a beast in practice.
they guy didn't respond to any of the posts requesting clarification.
Was he reputable?
seemed legitish. dunno.
:surprised:
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maybe george hill would be a better comparo.
That's a low blow. Wally has been unspectacular; but to compare to George... wow.
Clearly, this guy would be the best comparo of past Q@z due to McD AA status
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ft1.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcRdEXq3mP4PgwlxHqatIWg_zfXUGUHB_a0MwEJwbBoZGNXGOrWQ2g&hash=7c0a3257aa0ed44b0d7abfeee35fedffd0ee4afc)
I loved that team. Beane, Collier, Jackson, Ski and Cunningham, me in the front row (not wearing a purple blazer) of the student section going crazy for the "Cardiac Cats" as Mitch used to call them.
Ya, those guys (except for Ski) could be pretty JYC in their day
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there was a guy on kstatefans that posted something like "don't expect to see wally for a few games, he has some personal issues he's sorting out". it was in response to a dude saying he thought judge was being kept out for practicing poorly, so he also said that judge is a beast in practice.
they guy didn't respond to any of the posts requesting clarification.
Was he reputable?
seemed legitish. dunno.
:surprised:
Some of our local Newshounds need to get to the bottom of the Great Wally Mystery of December 2010, TIA. WHAT IS GOING ON WITH WALLACE! :curse:
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WHAT IS GOING ON WITH WALLACE!
still dunno why, but sounds like he won't play again tonight.
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WHAT IS GOING ON WITH WALLACE!
still dunno why, but sounds like he won't play again tonight.
I'm tired of this LHC Bill Snyder secrecy bullshit.*
*Hoping its just lazy beat writers
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Wally really really sucks. How he got 5 stars I will never fully understand. He has no post skills. Truly a garbage guy. I hate him officially.
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Was he about to start crying at the free throw line? Needs a hug. Frank felt so bad he didn't even take him out for playing like crap.
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I love wally. always will.
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imho, if he had eyebrows, he could look more intense & focused.
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Was he about to start crying at the free throw line? Needs a hug. Frank felt so bad he didn't even take him out for playing like crap.
I agree 100%, not to sound like a powerespect/stanbot but i will, that dude has ZERO confidence right now... so bad I could steal a chick from him at the bar..... wow
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I think Wally should transfer. I love the guy but I don't think he can handle the Frank treatment. He probably would flourish under some "player's coach" that wouldn't terrify him so much. Maybe Wally just isn't a right fit kind of guy?
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imho, if he had eyebrows, he could look more intense & focused.
HUGE point. Mods, should we start a campaign to raise funds for an eyebrow transplant for Wally?
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imho, if he had eyebrows, he could look more intense & focused.
this is so true
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tough to make him look intense. i went through several eyebrow drafts and couldn't come up with an intense wallace. the van dyke helps but he doesn't look very intense.
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tough to make him look intense. i went through several eyebrow drafts and couldn't come up with an intense wallace. the van dyke helps but he doesn't look very intense.
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Massey!!!!
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omg, massey took control over my computer and did that
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He and Nick could really help out our excess scholly situation.
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He and Nick could really help out our excess scholly situation.
NickRussell - Smh this isn't good..
Plans are a go....
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You really have to feel bad for Wally. Be it a combination of floundering due to unreasonable expectations, being homesick and other personal issues, or just not fitting in with Frank, it is hard to watch.
Looks like he lost his best friend.
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Wally really really sucks. How he got 5 stars I will never fully understand.
It happens.
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(http://www.jacksonvillegiants.com/page11505343.aspx)
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Wally = the next Manny Dies? :ck:
The BBSing is nice, but what we really need is for some Collegian sports writer to call him the worst college basketball player ever.
"Now bear in mind I am not saying K-State basketball, or NCAA I-A basketball but college basketball history," Stewart wrote. "He is the worst."
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who will play the supporting role of pero vasiljevic ? :confused:
has to be foreign, has to be wallace's buddy. maple? walk on from 1A school?
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Wally = the next Manny Dies? :ck:
The BBSing is nice, but what we really need is for some Collegian sports writer to call him the worst college basketball player ever.
"Now bear in mind I am not saying K-State basketball, or NCAA I-A basketball but college basketball history," Stewart wrote. "He is the worst."
I don't envision Wally subsequently kicking in his door and screaming "This is our school."
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wally's production is comparable to luis colon's as a soph. so give him a couple of more years and wally might just be decent.
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w_judge wally judge
I just wanna be successful
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w_judge wally judge
I just wanna be successful
i want a solid gold toilet, wally. somethings just aren't in the cards.
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kkwhb kevin kietzman
7 minutes in 2 games, is Wally Judge all but done at K-State?
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kkwhb kevin kietzman
7 minutes in 2 games, is Wally Judge all but done at K-State?
bitb
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Guys I think Frank is having Wally sandbag until the squawk game. He will then drop a triple double on there heads and then destroy everyone the rest of the season. Frank is one sly dude. Also Wallace is a great actor, give that man an oscar.
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kkwhb kevin kietzman
7 minutes in 2 games, is Wally Judge all but done at K-State?
:love:
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kkwhb kevin kietzman
7 minutes in 2 games, is Wally Judge all but done at K-State?
another glaring failure by frank and his staff. these guys continue to sit back and count their paychecks while the "pay frank" crowd bitches about the team not being as good as last year.
:lol:
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kkwhb kevin kietzman
7 minutes in 2 games, is Wally Judge all but done at K-State?
:love:
i think his station is losing money hand over fist, when it goes out of business it'll finally put an end to this idiocy that he's the best at anything.
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kkwhb kevin kietzman
7 minutes in 2 games, is Wally Judge all but done at K-State?
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i think his station is losing money hand over fist, when it goes out of business it'll finally put an end to this idiocy that he's the best at anything.
sure thing, nick wright.
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K-State's coaching staff does an absolutely terrible job of developing big men. It just makes me realize how fortunate KU is to have Danny Manning. Thomas Robinson and Wally Judge were similarly ranked coming out of high school, yet Robinson is head and shoulders better than Judge at this point.
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K-State's coaching staff does an absolutely terrible job of developing big men. It just makes me realize how fortunate KU is to have Danny Manning. Thomas Robinson and Wally Judge were similarly ranked coming out of high school, yet Robinson is head and shoulders better than Judge at this point.
Kelly? JamSam?
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kkwhb kevin kietzman
7 minutes in 2 games, is Wally Judge all but done at K-State?
:love:
i think his station is losing money hand over fist, when it goes out of business it'll finally put an end to this idiocy that he's the best at anything.
sure thing, nick wright.
<--- getting to the point that I love Nick Wright.
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K-State's coaching staff does an absolutely terrible job of developing big men. It just makes me realize how fortunate KU is to have Danny Manning. Thomas Robinson and Wally Judge were similarly ranked coming out of high school, yet Robinson is head and shoulders better than Judge at this point.
That is so true. :star: :star: :star: :star: :star: post players just never turn out well without an all star coaching staff to work with for 3-4 years.
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That Withey kid is sure living up to his potential. Imagine where he'd be without that year off to work with Danny!
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Are you guys really trying to deny that Danny Manning does an incredible job developing big men? Have you seen the Morris twins this season?
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Are you guys really trying to deny that Danny Manning does an incredible job developing big men? Have you seen the Morris twins this season?
:confused:
no. but i hear they are amazing.
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Are you guys really trying to deny that Danny Manning does an incredible job developing big men? Have you seen the Morris twins this season?
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are you trying to say Kelly and JamSam haven't excelled while being coached at KSU?? :surprised:
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5 stars don't need great coaching to develop them, guys like darren kent do.
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Are you guys really trying to deny that Danny Manning does an incredible job developing big men? Have you seen the Morris twins this season?
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are you trying to say Kelly and JamSam haven't excelled while being coached at KSU?? :surprised:
Kelly's rebounding and block numbers are down from last season, while his points per game are only up from 11.5 to 11.8. His field goal percentage and free throw percentage are also down this season. Samuels numbers this year are only slightly better than they were as a freshman, and he's not knocking down the three this season. While both have definitely improved under K-State's coaching staff, neither one has made the significant jump that the Morris twins have under Danny Manning.
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5 stars don't need great coaching to develop them, guys like darren kent do.
Funny you mention that, because both Judge and Kelly were 5-stars, while the Morris twins and Robinson were 4-stars.
:bwpopcorn:
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Both Jamar and Kelly are still recovering from heavily herniated eyes.
Also, Frank has done nothing stable as far as a line up goes. Once hernias are in the rear view and lineups are established/stabilized, both of their numbers will go up from what they are now.
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kkwhb kevin kietzman
7 minutes in 2 games, is Wally Judge all but done at K-State?
:love:
i think his station is losing money hand over fist, when it goes out of business it'll finally put an end to this idiocy that he's the best at anything.
His station is making money hand over fist
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5 stars don't need great coaching to develop them, guys like darren kent do.
Funny you mention that, because both Judge and Kelly were 5-stars, while the Morris twins and Robinson were 4-stars.
:bwpopcorn:
cool story bro. wally judge sucks and curtis kelly isn't far behind him. the morris twins are mongloids who can't stay on the floor without fouling everyone on the building 3x over and i'm not really sure who robinson is. what else is there to discuss?
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5 stars don't need great coaching to develop them, guys like darren kent do.
Funny you mention that, because both Judge and Kelly were 5-stars, while the Morris twins and Robinson were 4-stars.
:bwpopcorn:
Good Point
Frank >>>>> Self at recruiting (particularly post players)
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His station is making money hand over fist
nope. firing people and cutting costs. trying to save its ass.
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kkwhb kevin kietzman
7 minutes in 2 games, is Wally Judge all but done at K-State?
:love:
i think his station is losing money hand over fist, when it goes out of business it'll finally put an end to this idiocy that he's the best at anything.
His station is making money hand over fist
Kitchen would be pissed if this was true.
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5 stars don't need great coaching to develop them, guys like darren kent do.
Funny you mention that, because both Judge and Kelly were 5-stars, while the Morris twins and Robinson were 4-stars.
:bwpopcorn:
cool story bro. wally judge sucks and curtis kelly isn't far behind him. the morris twins are mongloids who can't stay on the floor without fouling everyone on the building 3x over and i'm not really sure who robinson is. what else is there to discuss?
For future reference, this is Thomas Robinson:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2010%2F11%2F28%2Fku_bkc_zona_21_t640.jpg&hash=0e1f0d2f5c9c6c0ab16f3638aed545c0bb86c38d)
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^danny manning did NOT teach him how to dunk like that
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Pretty sure that is Dwight Howard.
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5 stars don't need great coaching to develop them, guys like darren kent do.
Funny you mention that, because both Judge and Kelly were 5-stars, while the Morris twins and Robinson were 4-stars.
:bwpopcorn:
cool story bro. wally judge sucks and curtis kelly isn't far behind him. the morris twins are mongloids who can't stay on the floor without fouling everyone on the building 3x over and i'm not really sure who robinson is. what else is there to discuss?
For future reference, this is Thomas Robinson:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2010%2F11%2F28%2Fku_bkc_zona_21_t640.jpg&hash=0e1f0d2f5c9c6c0ab16f3638aed545c0bb86c38d)
Wally >>>>> Robinson at jumping high
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While both have definitely improved under K-State's coaching staff, neither one has made the significant jump that the Morris twins have under Danny Manning.
Why did you bother right the crap above this?? jfc.
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His station is making money hand over fist
nope. firing people and cutting costs. trying to save its ass.
I will be extremely sad if 810 goes under. 610 friggin blows.
<----- hates Nick Wright (bla bla bla, Chiefs, bla bla bla NBA, bla bla bla Tiger Woods, bla bla bla most neanderthal callers ever)
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His station is making money hand over fist
nope. firing people and cutting costs. trying to save its ass.
I will be extremely sad if 810 goes under. 610 friggin blows.
<----- hates Nick Wright (bla bla bla, Chiefs, bla bla bla NBA, bla bla bla Tiger Woods, bla bla bla most neanderthal callers ever)
Most AM stations are on their way down.
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His station is making money hand over fist
nope. firing people and cutting costs. trying to save its ass.
I will be extremely sad if 810 goes under. 610 friggin blows.
<----- hates Nick Wright (bla bla bla, Chiefs, bla bla bla NBA, bla bla bla Tiger Woods, bla bla bla most neanderthal callers ever)
Again, I like Nick Wright, but I fully agree on the callers. 610 callers are the worst on the entire dial.
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I have never heard Nick on the radio....based soley on his tweets he seems like a dumbshit. I really wanted to like him after his twitter fight with Fitz but I just couldn't.
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I have never heard Nick on the radio....based soley on his tweets he seems like a dumbcac. I really wanted to like him after his twitter fight with Fitz but I just couldn't.
Nick would do well here if he didn't hate us.
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His station is making money hand over fist
nope. firing people and cutting costs. trying to save its ass.
I will be extremely sad if 810 goes under. 610 friggin blows.
<----- hates Nick Wright (bla bla bla, Chiefs, bla bla bla NBA, bla bla bla Tiger Woods, bla bla bla most neanderthal callers ever)
Again, I like Nick Wright, but I fully agree on the callers. 610 callers are the worst on the entire dial.
Garett from Raytown (during Nick's segment on whether DWade is as good as Lebron): "Uhhhhh, uhhh, nick, dis is a question bout dem chiefs. What do ya tink our management is doin bout gettin' larry johnson paid, know what i'm sayin'? Like he's da best and all, but i'm not sure bout his tatitude and beatin on women and all dat"
Nick: " Garett, Garett, Garett, what have I been telling you? The CHIEFS should NOT, and I repeat SHOULD NOT invest any money in a running back. The overwhelming evidence, which can never EVER be disproved, is running backs wear down and aren't worth the money"
Garett: "uhhh, uhhh, uhhhh, okay nick danks for takin me call. I tink we should keep em, but give colby smith more carries"
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5 stars don't need great coaching to develop them, guys like darren kent do.
Funny you mention that, because both Judge and Kelly were 5-stars, while the Morris twins and Robinson were 4-stars.
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cool story bro. wally judge sucks and curtis kelly isn't far behind him. the morris twins are mongloids who can't stay on the floor without fouling everyone on the building 3x over and i'm not really sure who robinson is. what else is there to discuss?
For future reference, this is Thomas Robinson:
(https://goemaw.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.lawrence.com%2Fimg%2Fphotos%2F2010%2F11%2F28%2Fku_bkc_zona_21_t640.jpg&hash=0e1f0d2f5c9c6c0ab16f3638aed545c0bb86c38d)
Wally >>>>> Robinson at jumping high
Do you even realize that your past few posts have actually strengthened my argument?
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Do you even realize that your past few posts have actually strengthened my argument?
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What is your argument? How do my "past few posts" strengthen "it"?
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5 stars don't need great coaching to develop them, guys like darren kent do.
Funny you mention that, because both Judge and Kelly were 5-stars, while the Morris twins and Robinson were 4-stars.
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Kelly's RSCI was 30 (http://statsheet.com/bhsb/players/curtis-kelly). Robinson's was 28 (http://statsheet.com/bhsb/players/thomas-robinson). So, yeah, you were wrong about that.
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Guys I think Frank is having Wally sandbag until the squawk game. He will then drop a triple double on there heads and then destroy everyone the rest of the season. Frank is one sly dude. Also Wallace is a great actor, give that man an oscar.
In conjunction with unleashing JHR from 3 that same game? :excited:
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His station is making money hand over fist
nope. firing people and cutting costs. trying to save its ass.
they can save their own ass by actually paying their bills instead of wasting money on company outings for their mgmt team. they fired half their sales team in order to see better cash flow, when all they had to do was stop putting meals on trips on the company's dime.
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Guys I think Frank is having Wally sandbag until the squawk game. He will then drop a triple double on there heads and then destroy everyone the rest of the season. Frank is one sly dude. Also Wallace is a great actor, give that man an oscar.
I......want.....to.....believe :pray: