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General Discussion => Essentially Flyertalk => Topic started by: steve dave on February 05, 2010, 09:00:06 AM
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So, we have a new house but didn't have the basement finished. Now wish we would have. It's about 1k-1,250 sf with a rough in for a bathroom and daylight windows that would make for a comforming bedroom in one corner. We want to put in the bedroom, a half bath, living area and MUD room with storage. I have no idea how to do carpenter stuff. What am I looking at to have this thing done? How do I do it cheap? :dunno:
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To do it cheap, do it yourself.
Do you have any buddies who are contractors? At least you know you won't get ripped off for labor costs.
Other than that I would try and see if anyone in your area reccomends a good contractor.
Also, when you say 1/2 bath, is that toilet only or toilet+shower?
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To do it cheap, do it yourself.
Do you have any buddies who are contractors? At least you know you won't get ripped off for labor costs.
Other than that I would try and see if anyone in your area reccomends a good contractor.
Also, when you say 1/2 bath, is that toilet only or toilet+shower?
I don't have any contractor friends (at least in Omaha). And, see above about my lack of carpentry skills. 1/2 is toilet/sink. I would consider 3/4 (toilet/sink/shower) if it didn't cost much more. We already have two full baths though and a third would seem like overkill with just the two of us living there.
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sounds like you'd be better off just moving.
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So, we have a new house but didn't have the basement finished. Now wish we would have. It's about 1k-1,250 sf with a rough in for a bathroom and daylight windows that would make for a comforming bedroom in one corner. We want to put in the bedroom, a half bath, living area and MUD room with storage. I have no idea how to do carpenter stuff. What am I looking at to have this thing done? How do I do it cheap? :dunno:
I would do a simulation via The Sims first. Better to be safe than sorry.
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sounds like you'd be better off just moving.
Have considered this. Just buying another new house or having one built may be the easiest path. But, I don't know how long we are going to be in Omaha and dealing with all that paperwork and moving sh1t around is almost as much hassle as doing this contractor stuff.
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To do it cheap, do it yourself.
Do you have any buddies who are contractors? At least you know you won't get ripped off for labor costs.
Other than that I would try and see if anyone in your area reccomends a good contractor.
Also, when you say 1/2 bath, is that toilet only or toilet+shower?
I don't have any contractor friends (at least in Omaha). And, see above about my lack of carpentry skills. 1/2 is toilet/sink. I would consider 3/4 (toilet/sink/shower) if it didn't cost much more. We already have two full baths though and a third would seem like overkill with just the two of us living there.
LOL @ the Sims comment.
Depend on where you go and how hard you look, you could find a great price on shower. If you are making a guest bedroom in the basement, it allows your guests to not have to go upstairs to shower and get up all in your crap, JMO.
If it were me and I lived in a town where I really didn't know anybody, I would knock on some neighbors doors or ask some coworkers if they know anyone or have ever had remodeling done. If you already have plumbing set for bathroom, remodeling your basement should be cake. Hardest part will be insulation and sheetrock. You doing a dropdown ceiling or hard ceiling?
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sounds like you'd be better off just moving.
Have considered this. Just buying another new house or having one built may be the easiest path. But, I don't know how long we are going to be in Omaha and dealing with all that paperwork and moving sh1t around is almost as much hassle as doing this contractor stuff.
QFT.
I know a couple people who are still trying to sell their old house. Great time to buy, but selling seems to be difficult. My cousin has been trying to sell his house for about 8 months, and a coworker just sold his after 6 months.
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You doing a dropdown ceiling or hard ceiling?
Probably a drop down. Have heard hard ceilings are a pain in the ass when you are trying to run wires to your pillars or whatever. Also, KOUGZ ALERT! I have a pillar in my basement, it's structural (like all pillars).
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sounds like you'd be better off just moving.
Have considered this. Just buying another new house or having one built may be the easiest path. But, I don't know how long we are going to be in Omaha and dealing with all that paperwork and moving sh1t around is almost as much hassle as doing this contractor stuff.
QFT.
I know a couple people who are still trying to sell their old house. Great time to buy, but selling seems to be difficult. My cousin has been trying to sell his house for about 8 months, and a coworker just sold his after 6 months.
I could sell ours within a couple months without a problem.
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sounds like you'd be better off just moving.
Have considered this. Just buying another new house or having one built may be the easiest path. But, I don't know how long we are going to be in Omaha and dealing with all that paperwork and moving sh1t around is almost as much hassle as doing this contractor stuff.
QFT.
I know a couple people who are still trying to sell their old house. Great time to buy, but selling seems to be difficult. My cousin has been trying to sell his house for about 8 months, and a coworker just sold his after 6 months.
got a co-worker who sold his in about 2 months, course this in JC. Had a brother who sold his in about 2 weeks, course this is Bonner Springs. To me it just depends on the house and location(duh!)
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sounds like you'd be better off just moving.
Have considered this. Just buying another new house or having one built may be the easiest path. But, I don't know how long we are going to be in Omaha and dealing with all that paperwork and moving sh1t around is almost as much hassle as doing this contractor stuff.
If you're thinking about moving, it seems silly to waste time finishing a basement.
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What's the water table in your area?
Are we talking loamy clay here?
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My dad just retired and loves doing this crap. Sure he'd be way slower and more expensive than pretty much any other option you could find, but I think you should hire him. Would keep him from driving my mom crazy.
tia
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You doing a dropdown ceiling or hard ceiling?
Probably a drop down. Have heard hard ceilings are a pain in the ass when you are trying to run wires to your pillars or whatever. Also, KOUGZ ALERT! I have a pillar in my basement, it's structural (like all pillars).
Dropdown is a good choice. Makes it easier to run the surround sound system you plan on putting down there with the 52" right?
I agree with michigancat, if you plan on moving in the near future don't waste your time on the basement. Someone who wants the house will see the opportunity to finish it the way they want to (going back to the whole 1/2, 3/4, full bathroom thing). On the other hand, if you do finish the basement there is a possibility you could increase the value of the home by quite a bit.
I can see why houses in JC would sell. People want to get out of Missery, BA-ZING. Makes sense though that the people I know trying to sell live in smaller towns.
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Time to get off your ass and get it done so I have a place to sleep and clean up my junk for the CWS paker.
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sd i think you would be able to frame it yourself, it's really not diffi's and you could figure it out. then hire a good contractor to drywall, electric, etc. framing though would be a good projy for you and misses sd.
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Why the rush to finish it? I'm in a similar situation. But with just me and my wife (and my two step-cats) I just use the basement for a workout room/cat-dumping room. We already barely use the two finished floors. Plus, we may sell in the next few years and go overseas, so it seems a little pointless.
But if we do it, I want a pool table. Just want that out there.
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Why the rush to finish it? I'm in a similar situation. But with just me and my wife (and my two step-cats) I just use the basement for a workout room/cat-dumping room. We already barely use the two finished floors. Plus, we may sell in the next few years and go overseas, so it seems a little pointless.
But if we do it, I want a pool table. Just want that out there.
Want more room for guests and junk/stuff.
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Why the rush to finish it? I'm in a similar situation. But with just me and my wife (and my two step-cats) I just use the basement for a workout room/cat-dumping room. We already barely use the two finished floors. Plus, we may sell in the next few years and go overseas, so it seems a little pointless.
But if we do it, I want a pool table. Just want that out there.
finished basements really improve the house's marketability, plus raise the price.
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sd i think you would be able to frame it yourself, it's really not diffi's and you could figure it out. then hire a good contractor to drywall, electric, etc. framing though would be a good projy for you and misses sd.
Yeah, I think this is probably my best bet. Scared of doing it but worst case scenario I just hire someone to fix my mistakes.
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Why the rush to finish it? I'm in a similar situation. But with just me and my wife (and my two step-cats) I just use the basement for a workout room/cat-dumping room. We already barely use the two finished floors. Plus, we may sell in the next few years and go overseas, so it seems a little pointless.
But if we do it, I want a pool table. Just want that out there.
Want more room for guests and junk/stuff.
Ah. We're already using the basement for junk/stuff, and we've got three spare beds on the second floor.
Good call on asking neighbors, BTW. Do you have an HOA? Pretty much the only good thing about our HOA is the reco list for stuff like this.
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sd i think you would be able to frame it yourself, it's really not diffi's and you could figure it out. then hire a good contractor to drywall, electric, etc. framing though would be a good projy for you and misses sd.
Yeah, I think this is probably my best bet. Scared of doing it but worst case scenario I just hire someone to fix my mistakes.
Honestly it's hard to really screw this part up.
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sd i think you would be able to frame it yourself, it's really not diffi's and you could figure it out. then hire a good contractor to drywall, electric, etc. framing though would be a good projy for you and misses sd.
Yeah, I think this is probably my best bet. Scared of doing it but worst case scenario I just hire someone to fix my mistakes.
Honestly it's hard to really screw this part up.
So, what do I do? Just go buy a bunch of boards and start hammering them to the wall or what?
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sd i think you would be able to frame it yourself, it's really not diffi's and you could figure it out. then hire a good contractor to drywall, electric, etc. framing though would be a good projy for you and misses sd.
Yeah, I think this is probably my best bet. Scared of doing it but worst case scenario I just hire someone to fix my mistakes.
Honestly it's hard to really screw this part up.
So, what do I do? Just go buy a bunch of boards and start hammering them to the wall or what?
Isn't there a pretty good "how to handyman" website out there? Gives you step by step instructions on how to do dry wall, framing etc? I could google it but kind of lazy right now. I hear its pretty legit though.
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Its threads like these that make me glad I'm a renter.
Mr. KK "pfftt, the wife just put a whole vase of flowers down the garbage disposal, again. Guess I'll call up the maintenance man."
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sd i think you would be able to frame it yourself, it's really not diffi's and you could figure it out. then hire a good contractor to drywall, electric, etc. framing though would be a good projy for you and misses sd.
Yeah, I think this is probably my best bet. Scared of doing it but worst case scenario I just hire someone to fix my mistakes.
Honestly it's hard to really screw this part up.
So, what do I do? Just go buy a bunch of boards and start hammering them to the wall or what?
Isn't there a pretty good "how to handyman" website out there? Gives you step by step instructions on how to do dry wall, framing etc? I could google it but kind of lazy right now. I hear its pretty legit though.
Yeah, just google it or buy a book at Home Depot or something. The worst thing that can happen is that you waste a couple of 2x4's.
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sd i think you would be able to frame it yourself, it's really not diffi's and you could figure it out. then hire a good contractor to drywall, electric, etc. framing though would be a good projy for you and misses sd.
Yeah, I think this is probably my best bet. Scared of doing it but worst case scenario I just hire someone to fix my mistakes.
Honestly it's hard to really screw this part up.
So, what do I do? Just go buy a bunch of boards and start hammering them to the wall or what?
measure your space. sketch your design. then read a bunch of stuff about framing. the guidelines you follow in framing are really straightforward, i.e. - how much space off the basement wall you need to be, how much space between 2x4sthen determine how much 2/4's you need and order them. go rent a nail gun and buy some safety equipment. it will take a while for you but it is a great way to get into the "home improvement" stuff.
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sd i think you would be able to frame it yourself, it's really not diffi's and you could figure it out. then hire a good contractor to drywall, electric, etc. framing though would be a good projy for you and misses sd.
Yeah, I think this is probably my best bet. Scared of doing it but worst case scenario I just hire someone to fix my mistakes.
Honestly it's hard to really screw this part up.
So, what do I do? Just go buy a bunch of boards and start hammering them to the wall or what?
measure your space. sketch your design. then read a bunch of stuff about framing. the guidelines you follow in framing are really straightforward, i.e. - how much space off the basement wall you need to be, how much space between 2x4sthen determine how much 2/4's you need and order them. go rent a nail gun and buy some safety equipment. it will take a while for you but it is a great way to get into the "home improvement" stuff.
OK, I'll do this I guess. Seems hard though.
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Make sure to get a permit. Plumbing, electrical, and making it a sleeping quarters all require one. Other than that, I'd only put a bathroom in if you have a drain. If you have 2 drains, go ahead and put a shower in. Only put a bedroom in if you have a large enough window. You might actually want to consult an architect or a contractor and have them draw it out for you, unless you want tons of code issues (good luck selling a house with all of that going on).
In terms of finishing it out, framing isn't hard. Drywalling is easy. Mudding the drywall isn't. Get 2'x2' peel and stick carpet squares for flooring if you can't find any really cheap stuff. How high is it to your joists? That will determine what type of ceiling you have. Don't get a ceiling lower than 7'-6". The higher the better.
Some good sources are the family handyman, and believe it or not, youtube. I found out how to build a shower pan on there.
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Make sure to get a permit. Plumbing, electrical, and making it a sleeping quarters all require one. Other than that, I'd only put a bathroom in if you have a drain. If you have 2 drains, go ahead and put a shower in. Only put a bedroom in if you have a large enough window. You might actually want to consult an architect or a contractor and have them draw it out for you, unless you want tons of code issues (good luck selling a house with all of that going on).
In terms of finishing it out, framing isn't hard. Drywalling is easy. Mudding the drywall isn't. Get 2'x2' peel and stick carpet squares for flooring if you can't find any really cheap stuff. How high is it to your joists? That will determine what type of ceiling you have. Don't get a ceiling lower than 7'-6". The higher the better.
Some good sources are the family handyman, and believe it or not, youtube. I found out how to build a shower pan on there.
Big windows. Will be a comforming bedroom. They are prolly three feet off the floor. Very high ceilings except for a steel i-beam that runs across the middle (where the pillar is). Don't know what to do about this. The bottom of the i-beam is probably 8 ft. I think Ihave one large drain and one small in the rough-in for the bathroom. I assume this was meant for a toilet and sink but not a shower. There is a full bathroom right at the top of the stairs so having a third shower isn't that important to me.
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Make sure to get a permit. Plumbing, electrical, and making it a sleeping quarters all require one. Other than that, I'd only put a bathroom in if you have a drain. If you have 2 drains, go ahead and put a shower in. Only put a bedroom in if you have a large enough window. You might actually want to consult an architect or a contractor and have them draw it out for you, unless you want tons of code issues (good luck selling a house with all of that going on).
In terms of finishing it out, framing isn't hard. Drywalling is easy. Mudding the drywall isn't. Get 2'x2' peel and stick carpet squares for flooring if you can't find any really cheap stuff. How high is it to your joists? That will determine what type of ceiling you have. Don't get a ceiling lower than 7'-6". The higher the better.
Some good sources are the family handyman, and believe it or not, youtube. I found out how to build a shower pan on there.
thing is if he's gonna pay someone to mud the drywall he might as well have them cut it and hang it too.
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Hire someone
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Good website for general construction/renovation costs (http://www.costhelper.com/cost/home-garden/home-garden.html)
Decide whether to do it yourself or hire a contractor (http://www.diyornot.com/)
Not free, but Fine Homebuilding have great articles that are geared towards construction professionals for this type of thing (http://www.finehomebuilding.com/search/search.asp?cx=009096020989677304441%3Avl5omqkzse4&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=basement&sa.x=0&sa.y=0&sa=Search#854)
Like ew2x4 said, make sure the window is an egress, otherwise you can't count that space as a bedroom when you list and try to sell.
Framing isn't hard. Putting up drywall is a 2 person job. Finishing the drywall is an art, and will look like crap if this is the first time you are doing it. Put the drywall up yourself and hire a crew to finish it for you.
Here in Denver, you can take a series of (easy) tests that allow you (as a homeowner) to do your own renovation/construction in your home, without having to hire a licensed contractor (like electrical, plumbing, framing, etc,). You still need to pull permits though. A lot of people do renovations without pulling permits. Its cheaper, less hassle. Some people know what they are doing, some don't. The permits (and inspection process) are there to protect the ones that don't. You can really eff things up if you don't know what you are doing. So read up.
Also, quick story on not pulling permits. A while ago, there was a realtor in a suburb NW of Denver that had completely renovated his home without pulling permits. And then he put it on the market. Someone at the City put 2 and 2 together, went to see the home, noticed that everything was new on an older home, went back to the City offices, couldn't find any permits for the work. So the city made him tear out everything, redo and go through permiting and inspections. Cost him a lot of time and money. So this realtor, really pissed at this point, used his realtoring position to go around and look at a lot of homes on the market on his area. The ones that looked like they were recently renovated, he went to the city, checked on the permits (public record) and reported the ones that had done what he had done. Real dick move.
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Good website for general construction/renovation costs (http://www.costhelper.com/cost/home-garden/home-garden.html)
Decide whether to do it yourself or hire a contractor (http://www.diyornot.com/)
Not free, but Fine Homebuilding have great articles that are geared towards construction professionals for this type of thing (http://www.finehomebuilding.com/search/search.asp?cx=009096020989677304441%3Avl5omqkzse4&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=basement&sa.x=0&sa.y=0&sa=Search#854)
Like ew2x4 said, make sure the window is an egress, otherwise you can't count that space as a bedroom when you list and try to sell.
Framing isn't hard. Putting up drywall is a 2 person job. Finishing the drywall is an art, and will look like crap if this is the first time you are doing it. Put the drywall up yourself and hire a crew to finish it for you.
Here in Denver, you can take a series of (easy) tests that allow you (as a homeowner) to do your own renovation/construction in your home, without having to hire a licensed contractor (like electrical, plumbing, framing, etc,). You still need to pull permits though. A lot of people do renovations without pulling permits. Its cheaper, less hassle. Some people know what they are doing, some don't. The permits (and inspection process) are there to protect the ones that don't. You can really shazbot! things up if you don't know what you are doing. So read up.
Also, quick story on not pulling permits. A while ago, there was a realtor in a suburb NW of Denver that had completely renovated his home without pulling permits. And then he put it on the market. Someone at the City put 2 and 2 together, went to see the home, noticed that everything was new on an older home, went back to the City offices, couldn't find any permits for the work. So the city made him tear out everything, redo and go through permiting and inspections. Cost him a lot of time and money. So this realtor, really pissed at this point, used his realtoring position to go around and look at a lot of homes on the market on his area. The ones that looked like they were recently renovated, he went to the city, checked on the permits (public record) and reported the ones that had done what he had done. Real dick move.
that was me, u digg? :cool:
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Like ew2x4 said, make sure the window is an egress, otherwise you can't count that space as a bedroom when you list and try to sell.
Yeah, it's not an egress. It's an actual window looking out onto the back yard. This seems to be hard to fathom by some on here. Like, you look out the windows and there is the yard and the neighbor's house. I excavate about 2 feet of dirt and it'd be a walkout.
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Like ew2x4 said, make sure the window is an egress, otherwise you can't count that space as a bedroom when you list and try to sell.
Yeah, it's not an egress. It's an actual window looking out onto the back yard. This seems to be hard to fathom by some on here. Like, you look out the windows and there is the yard and the neighbor's house. I excavate about 2 feet of dirt and it'd be a walkout.
this stupid window seems to be causing some major headaches. i'd get rid of it.
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leave the beam exposed.
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Just throw a pool table, a pinball machine and maybe a shuffleboard table and call it good.
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What kinds of wallpaper prints have you considered?
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No, I understand what you are saying. I know egress is usually thrown out there just for basement bedrooms. But every bedroom in your house (regardless of the floor) needs an egress (whether it be a window, door, or whatever).
General specs for an egress opening:
A minimum net clear openable area of 5.7 sq ft
A minimum net clear openable height dimension of 24"(a fireman with his oxygen tank)
A minimum net clear openable width dimension of 20" (a fireman's ladder)
A finished sill height not more than 44" above the finished floor.
If there is a exterior door in the room, that will be your egress opening.
Sounds like they are probably big enough. Didn't know if they could open though.
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No, I understand what you are saying. I know egress is usually thrown out there just for basement bedrooms. But every bedroom in your house (regardless of the floor) needs an egress (whether it be a window, door, or whatever).
General specs for an egress opening:
A minimum net clear openable area of 5.7 sq ft
A minimum net clear openable height dimension of 24"(a fireman with his oxygen tank)
A minimum net clear openable width dimension of 20" (a fireman's ladder)
A finished sill height not more than 44" above the finished floor.
If there is a exterior door in the room, that will be your egress opening.
Sounds like they are probably big enough. Didn't know if they could open though.
Oh, ok. Yeah, they're pretty big. They open and junk.
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Seems like you have quite a few obstacles.
Ask a neighbor for some contractor recommendations. When you find a contractor, have him give you a consultation. Weigh your options with bedroom, bathroom, and rest of basement.
This way you get professional advice instead of trying to do it yourself. Also keeps you from fudging up any contract/permit responsibilities.
Once you find an option you like, use it to get quotes from other contractors. Find the best/reasonable price with a contractor who has had positive feedback.
My $.02
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hire someone.
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I'd say watch HGTV all the time and TLC on Saturday Mornings. boom you're welcome.
I'm like you though I'd be hesitant to do the work myself without some sort of supervision or someone guiding me through it.
I'd check out craigslist and have some people just quote you a price and keep having them do quotes until you find one you like and someone that you think you can count on and won't do a crap job aka make sure they have references.
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Look here http://publicecodes.citation.com/icod/irc/2006f2/index.htm (http://publicecodes.citation.com/icod/irc/2006f2/index.htm), its the international Residential Code. Read it because it will help greatly. If you have question call the local code office. I can also answer questions.
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if you make a bedroom you might have to have an escape window in the basement. Another reason to check code.
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I can't wait to go to an omaha pak and sleep in the room built by goEMAW.com.
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I can't wait to go to an omaha pak and sleep in the room built by goEMAW.com.
i just want a quick agreement that the window has to go. the way it's being described just sounds absurd. absolutely absurd. get rid of that stupid f8cking thing and then you just go from there.
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I can't wait to go to an omaha pak and sleep in the room built by goEMAW.com.
i just want a quick agreement that the window has to go. the way it's being described just sounds absurd. absolutely absurd. get rid of that stupid f8cking thing and then you just go from there.
I'm indifferent to the window. However, I plan to tote an 8-foot pillar with me when I go and set that thing up in the room. I want an in-room pillar in addition to any pillar(s) in the rest of the basement. I need that in the room to attach my travel speakers to.
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I can't wait to go to an omaha pak and sleep in the room built by goEMAW.com.
i just want a quick agreement that the window has to go. the way it's being described just sounds absurd. absolutely absurd. get rid of that stupid f8cking thing and then you just go from there.
windows in a basement is pretty dumb. kind of ruins the whole "basement" feel. To be really elite the basement needs the ability to be pitch black at high noon in the middle of the summer. SD seems pretty hell bent on the window though, may require an intervention.
also, its no a "pillar" its a column.
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geebus, just watch hgtv for for a couple hours, they cover all this chit
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Don't listen to the idiots telling you to do it yourself. If you don't know anything about carpentry, don't try it. You'll end up fubaring something and have to call a contractor anyways. Just hire someone reputable and be done with it. jfc does nobody watch hgtv :jerk:
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also, its no a "pillar" its a column.
Not talking about a column. I'm bringing a full pillar up there. Just like the one in kougar's place.
sd, just because I'm incorporating some aspects of kougar's setup, don't get any ideas about also furnishing the basement with his penis-shaped couches.
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Make sure to get a permit. Plumbing, electrical, and making it a sleeping quarters all require one. Other than that, I'd only put a bathroom in if you have a drain. If you have 2 drains, go ahead and put a shower in. Only put a bedroom in if you have a large enough window. You might actually want to consult an architect or a contractor and have them draw it out for you, unless you want tons of code issues (good luck selling a house with all of that going on).
In terms of finishing it out, framing isn't hard. Drywalling is easy. Mudding the drywall isn't. Get 2'x2' peel and stick carpet squares for flooring if you can't find any really cheap stuff. How high is it to your joists? That will determine what type of ceiling you have. Don't get a ceiling lower than 7'-6". The higher the better.
Some good sources are the family handyman, and believe it or not, youtube. I found out how to build a shower pan on there.
Don't listen to this guy. Pretty sure you need a permit to even replace the pipes under your sink. If a law is stupid, then it shouldn't be followed.
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I can't wait to go to an omaha pak and sleep in the room built by goEMAW.com.
i just want a quick agreement that the window has to go. the way it's being described just sounds absurd. absolutely absurd. get rid of that stupid f8cking thing and then you just go from there.
Great point Daris. That's decided. The window is gone. SD, do you plan on removing the window yourself or hiring someone to do it? Since you are already going to remove the window, you might as well knock out the entire view out wall and make the bedroom a full walk out. While you are at it, you can make it walk out into a pit with a hot tub and built in hibachi grill. Let me know when it is finished. I'll come make some fried rice for everyone.
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Kind of OT: I will never own or get into a home hot tub. It's like people soup. You are marinating in other people's bath water. I feel like I can trust a quality hotel or spa to keep their water at an almost skin burning chlorine level.
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Kind of OT: I will never own or get into a home hot tub. It's like people soup. You are marinating in other people's bath water. I feel like I can trust a quality hotel or spa to keep their water at an almost skin burning chlorine level.
As someone who was a pool man in high school, this is very LPHTIQ.
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Kind of OT: I will never own or get into a home hot tub. It's like people soup. You are marinating in other people's bath water. I feel like I can trust a quality hotel or spa to keep their water at an almost skin burning chlorine level.
What about the grill?
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Make sure to get a permit. Plumbing, electrical, and making it a sleeping quarters all require one. Other than that, I'd only put a bathroom in if you have a drain. If you have 2 drains, go ahead and put a shower in. Only put a bedroom in if you have a large enough window. You might actually want to consult an architect or a contractor and have them draw it out for you, unless you want tons of code issues (good luck selling a house with all of that going on).
In terms of finishing it out, framing isn't hard. Drywalling is easy. Mudding the drywall isn't. Get 2'x2' peel and stick carpet squares for flooring if you can't find any really cheap stuff. How high is it to your joists? That will determine what type of ceiling you have. Don't get a ceiling lower than 7'-6". The higher the better.
Some good sources are the family handyman, and believe it or not, youtube. I found out how to build a shower pan on there.
Don't listen to this guy. Pretty sure you need a permit to even replace the pipes under your sink. If a law is stupid, then it shouldn't be followed.
You definitely don't need a permit to replace a P-trap, tard.
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P-trap
pfffffttttt lol
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LOL, i KNOW RITE?
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I can't wait to go to an omaha pak and sleep in the room built by goEMAW.com.
eff that. The basement will be like half done and everyone will just sit around bitching about how bad it sucks and how everyone else's basement is so much better.
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I can't wait to go to an omaha pak and sleep in the room built by goEMAW.com.
eff that. The basement will be like half done and everyone will just sit around bitching about how bad it sucks and how everyone else's basement is so much better.
Did you even hear about the windows? Apparently not.
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Dude, I finished my own basement. You pretty much just make sure everything is at 90 degree angles to each other and then just put twice as many nails/screws in everything just to make sure. It really wasn't that hard. But then again, I'm pretty much really good at everything I try. But for real, don't go get permits for all that crap. Waste of time/money. I finished my own basement and sold it the next month without any problem from inspectors etc. My in-laws went the "legit" way with the permit thing and the inspector wouldn't "certify" it because my dad-in-law didn't have the little plastic cover thingies on the light switches yet. GMAFB!!!!
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Dude, I finished my own basement. You pretty much just make sure everything is at 90 degree angles to each other and then just put twice as many nails/screws in everything just to make sure. It really wasn't that hard. But then again, I'm pretty much really good at everything I try. But for real, don't go get permits for all that crap. Waste of time/money. I finished my own basement and sold it the next month without any problem from inspectors etc. My in-laws went the "legit" way with the permit thing and the inspector wouldn't "certify" it because my dad-in-law didn't have the little plastic cover thingies on the light switches yet. GMAFB!!!!
I want pictures, square footage, and cost. This is like porn to me.
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Dude, I finished my own basement. You pretty much just make sure everything is at 90 degree angles to each other and then just put twice as many nails/screws in everything just to make sure. It really wasn't that hard. But then again, I'm pretty much really good at everything I try. But for real, don't go get permits for all that crap. Waste of time/money. I finished my own basement and sold it the next month without any problem from inspectors etc. My in-laws went the "legit" way with the permit thing and the inspector wouldn't "certify" it because my dad-in-law didn't have the little plastic cover thingies on the light switches yet. GMAFB!!!!
Come to my house and do mine at cost plus me talking you up on message boards
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Good website for general construction/renovation costs (http://www.costhelper.com/cost/home-garden/home-garden.html)
Decide whether to do it yourself or hire a contractor (http://www.diyornot.com/)
Not free, but Fine Homebuilding have great articles that are geared towards construction professionals for this type of thing (http://www.finehomebuilding.com/search/search.asp?cx=009096020989677304441%3Avl5omqkzse4&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=basement&sa.x=0&sa.y=0&sa=Search#854)
Like ew2x4 said, make sure the window is an egress, otherwise you can't count that space as a bedroom when you list and try to sell.
Framing isn't hard. Putting up drywall is a 2 person job. Put the drywall up yourself and hire a crew to finish it for you.
Finishing the drywall is an art, and will look like crap if this is the first time you are doing it.
Here in Denver, you can take a series of (easy) tests that allow you (as a homeowner) to do your own renovation/construction in your home, without having to hire a licensed contractor (like electrical, plumbing, framing, etc,). You still need to pull permits though. A lot of people do renovations without pulling permits. Its cheaper, less hassle. Some people know what they are doing, some don't. The permits (and inspection process) are there to protect the ones that don't. You can really eff things up if you don't know what you are doing. So read up.
Also, quick story on not pulling permits. A while ago, there was a realtor in a suburb NW of Denver that had completely renovated his home without pulling permits. And then he put it on the market. Someone at the City put 2 and 2 together, went to see the home, noticed that everything was new on an older home, went back to the City offices, couldn't find any permits for the work. So the city made him tear out everything, redo and go through permiting and inspections. Cost him a lot of time and money. So this realtor, really pissed at this point, used his realtoring position to go around and look at a lot of homes on the market on his area. The ones that looked like they were recently renovated, he went to the city, checked on the permits (public record) and reported the ones that had done what he had done. Real dick move.
This. This. Looks good when you do it, five years down the line you have giant cracks everywhere.
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As a 1999 graduate of the Construction Science department, I suggest you call Peter J. Kiewit & Sons. They're in Omaha, you're in Omaha. Match made in heaven.
:cheers:
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Good website for general construction/renovation costs (http://www.costhelper.com/cost/home-garden/home-garden.html)
Decide whether to do it yourself or hire a contractor (http://www.diyornot.com/)
Not free, but Fine Homebuilding have great articles that are geared towards construction professionals for this type of thing (http://www.finehomebuilding.com/search/search.asp?cx=009096020989677304441%3Avl5omqkzse4&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=basement&sa.x=0&sa.y=0&sa=Search#854)
Also, quick story on not pulling permits. A while ago, there was a realtor in a suburb NW of Denver that had completely renovated his home without pulling permits. And then he put it on the market. Someone at the City put 2 and 2 together, went to see the home, noticed that everything was new on an older home, went back to the City offices, couldn't find any permits for the work. So the city made him tear out everything, redo and go through permiting and inspections. Cost him a lot of time and money.
Had a similar thing happen at a place I lived in Manhattan. The previous owner set the basement up to finish it but then never got around to it. We had just purchased a projector and decided to finish the rest of the basement and turn it into a mancave (we had a pool table and one of those sweet arcade style "hot shot" basketball machines). We got it done and it was amazing. I mean amazing amazing. :fatty: .... Buuuut at the end of the semester the city came to inspect the house and basically forced them to rebuild the entire basement.
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Dude, I finished my own basement. You pretty much just make sure everything is at 90 degree angles to each other and then just put twice as many nails/screws in everything just to make sure. It really wasn't that hard. But then again, I'm pretty much really good at everything I try. But for real, don't go get permits for all that crap. Waste of time/money. I finished my own basement and sold it the next month without any problem from inspectors etc. My in-laws went the "legit" way with the permit thing and the inspector wouldn't "certify" it because my dad-in-law didn't have the little plastic cover thingies on the light switches yet. GMAFB!!!!
Come to my house and do mine at cost plus me talking you up on message boards
This is very tempting, cause I do value highly my MBSC (message board street cred)
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So, we have a new house but didn't have the basement finished. Now wish we would have. It's about 1k-1,250 sf with a rough in for a bathroom and daylight windows that would make for a comforming bedroom in one corner. We want to put in the bedroom, a half bath, living area and MUD room with storage. I have no idea how to do carpenter stuff. What am I looking at to have this thing done? How do I do it cheap? :dunno:
Go ahead and hire someone to do the man's work. That will leave more time for you to do the cooking, cleaning and sewing. :lol:
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So, we have a new house but didn't have the basement finished. Now wish we would have. It's about 1k-1,250 sf with a rough in for a bathroom and daylight windows that would make for a comforming bedroom in one corner. We want to put in the bedroom, a half bath, living area and MUD room with storage. I have no idea how to do carpenter stuff. What am I looking at to have this thing done? How do I do it cheap? :dunno:
Go ahead and hire someone to do the man's work. That will leave more time for you to do the cooking, cleaning and sewing. :lol:
Yeah, I think I'm leaning in that direction. I'm an excellent cook and meticulously clean too. Not really embarrassed by this at all fwiw. :dunno:
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So, we have a new house but didn't have the basement finished. Now wish we would have. It's about 1k-1,250 sf with a rough in for a bathroom and daylight windows that would make for a comforming bedroom in one corner. We want to put in the bedroom, a half bath, living area and MUD room with storage. I have no idea how to do carpenter stuff. What am I looking at to have this thing done? How do I do it cheap? :dunno:
If you want to do it at low cost, couldn't you hire mjrod? He's hispanic and that equals cheap labor. :cheers:
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So, we have a new house but didn't have the basement finished. Now wish we would have. It's about 1k-1,250 sf with a rough in for a bathroom and daylight windows that would make for a comforming bedroom in one corner. We want to put in the bedroom, a half bath, living area and MUD room with storage. I have no idea how to do carpenter stuff. What am I looking at to have this thing done? How do I do it cheap? :dunno:
If you want to do it at low cost, couldn't you hire mjrod? He's hispanic and that equals cheap labor. :cheers:
MJRod mows my lawn!!!!! :opcat:
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Fisrt contractor came by yesterday to bid the thing. Expecting his figures and auto-cad drawing and whatever else usually comes along with this crap sometime this week. Any guesses what it comes in at? About 1,500 sq ft made up of family room, bedroom, bathroom. :users:
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No wet bar?
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No wet bar?
No, do not want
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Depends on quality of materials. Basic stuff, $10,000? Higher end 15? 20? Hard to say. I remodeled my bathroom and laundry room for about $4,000, but I did it all myself. Labor sometimes doubles the cost.
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Whatever cost he tells you just tell him you have someone else who will do it for X amount less. Will work like a charm. Also make sure you have a contract that says the basement will be done by X date and if not put contingencies in there.
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whatever you do, make sure he inspects your foundation and test the joists for stress. Cracked joists will ruin your project faster than anything else.
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KOUGZ! There's a big steel pillar in the middle that is going to be all pimped out :gocho:
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whatever you do, make sure he inspects your foundation and test the joists for stress. Cracked joists will ruin your project faster than anything else.
Our foundations and joists (whatever those are) are all only 5 years old. Should be good to go.
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whatever you do, make sure he inspects your foundation and test the joists for stress. Cracked joists will ruin your project faster than anything else.
Our foundations and joists (whatever those are) are all only 5 years old. Should be good to go.
That is what you think. HAHAHAHAHAHA.
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Dropdown is a good choice. Makes it easier to run the surround sound system you plan on putting down there with the 52" right?
I dunno. The gyp ceiling looks a lot better. Just plan your wiring out ahead of time.
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Dropdown is a good choice. Makes it easier to run the surround sound system you plan on putting down there with the 52" right?
I dunno. The gyp ceiling looks a lot better. Just plan your wiring out ahead of time.
I'm having network cable and coax run to both rooms. Shouldn't be an issue. I'm strongly anti-surround sound.
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soundbar
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when he gives you the estimate, look the guy right in the eyes, without looking at the estimate first, and tell him you'll double his offer if he'll put in a 15' vaulted ceiling. if he turns it down, call him a pussy.
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when he gives you the estimate, look the guy right in the eyes, without looking at the estimate first, and tell him you'll double his offer if he'll put in a 15' vaulted ceiling. if he turns it down, call him a pussy.
lol
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SD, you owe it to yourself to create a secret room. preferably one with a fireman's pole and a rope ladder that leads to a bedroom closet on the floor above. Access to the secret room from the basement should be gained via a giant grandfather clock (or book case if you'd prefer).
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SD, you owe it to yourself to create a secret room. preferably one with a fireman's pole and a rope ladder that leads to a bedroom closet on the floor above. Access to the secret room from the basement should be gained via a giant grandfather clock (or book case if you'd prefer).
My last house was built in 1912 and had a secret room in the basement that locked from the outside. I'm pretty sure that's where they put their crazy step-son or something. I always got the willies when I went in that room, like something really bad had happened in there.
BTW, my guess is $22,544.55.
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I am guessing $20-$25k also, but depends on the finishes and their quality(good carpet v cheap, hard wood trim v paintable, etc).
A note on the pole: I have one in my basement. It originally split the entire space in two. I wanted to regain the area it occupied, so I moved it.
Every steel beam has a marking on it's web that will state what size beam it is. The marking will look something like W8x13(that is what mine is). You can use this to find how far such a beam can span given an assumed weight load. Use a Load & Resistance Factor Design book for this(May be able to google the appropriate charts, if not, I have the book and can fill you in on what the chart says, given you know your beam size).
I moved mine over after building a second beam in my new closet wall. That way the steel pole remains, the beam span is not exceeded, and I now have a much more wide open room.
Also, to reinforce what others have said; rough framing is so easy a drunk monkey could do it given he had a skill saw, nail gun, and ram set. I would give it a whirl. They call it "rough" carpentry for a reason...it doesn't have to be exactly perfect.
If you hire out the drywall mud/tape, hire out hanging it too. Some small things that can be done while hanging the drywall will make the mud job much faster(cheaper) and will hide joints better all said and done.
As for the ceiling, in the area you are not going to use as a bedroom, maybe consider painting the exposed joist a dark color. Look around a lot of new restaurants and bars have this. It kind of hides the ceiling from your eyes. Much cheaper than any other finish option, and if you run wire, duct, conduit, or anything else in the future, you simply paint it and it blends in.
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SD,
Please do all the work of getting bids, checking contractors backgrounds, making mistakes, and paying too much for everything then let me know who to use and I'll get my basement finished and it will be all super badass and stuff
Also do you know of any good mexican restaurants on the west side not named Roja??
TIA
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SD,
Please do all the work of getting bids, checking contractors backgrounds, making mistakes, and paying too much for everything then let me know who to use and I'll get my basement finished and it will be all super badass and stuff
Also do you know of any good mexican restaurants on the west side not named Roja??
TIA
Hectors is good :dunno:
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SD's new secret room. $200.00 tops.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. That is custom furniture!!!!
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I am going to start building out mine next month :crossfingers: :cheers:
10 ft. ceiling w/reinforced beam (lone pole should be wall-ed off). Should add just under 1000 ft of rec room space, some decent storage, and a half bath. Sorry Mrs. OTK but we might be putting a urinal in there. Laminate flooring (maple bball court flavor) and will paint the joists, ducts, etc black to take advantage of the height. I have a wall that should be able to accommodate a 65-70" screen visible from 4/5 of the floor space. There will be much EMAW decor.
Work will be done by friends who got carpentry, electrical, etc. game. It will take some time.
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Experience talking to people in real life about this so far:
Me: We are having our basement finished
Random rube from NE: Yeah! Man Cave!
Me: No, like, a family room, office/bedroom, bathroom. Just regular usable space.
RRFNE: You doing a wet bar?
Me: No, we have a kitchen
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SURROUND SOUND!!!
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SURROUND SOUND!!!
Oh man, get that a lot too.
Saul: You getting a surround sound
Me: Shut up
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SURROUND SOUND!!!
Oh man, get that a lot too.
Saul: You getting a surround sound
Me: Shut up
Nothing angers me more than when some nincompoop spends a bunch of coin on a big television and has a Cyberhome DVD player and audio going through the televisions speakers.
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SURROUND SOUND!!!
Oh man, get that a lot too.
Saul: You getting a surround sound
Me: Shut up
Nothing angers me more than when some nincompoop spends a bunch of coin on a big television and has a Cyberhome DVD player and audio going through the televisions speakers.
Are you really sure about this...that NOTHING angers you more than this???
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Are you atleast doing a projector? Basements are great for that. 100" screen.
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Are you atleast doing a projector? Basements are great for that. 100" screen.
pffftttt, no
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steve dave- "hey guys! welcome to the worlds most boring basement!"
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steve dave- "hey guys! welcome to the worlds most boring basement!"
ew2x4- "hey guys, come check out my MAN CAVE hur-hur-hur-machinegunsounds-fartnoise!"
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steve dave- "ew2x4, I'd LOVE to get out of this hell hole my wife made me build. I'll come over so I can enjoy a real basement and not fear a change in my sexuality."
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:flush:
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steve dave: hey guys come over, let's play connect four and drink some (root) BEER!
guys: um ok, i guess we can check out the new basement set up.
steve dave: no, my wife doesn't let me down there. she's right though, I don't want us to ruin the carpet by walking on it.
steve dave: i got some pics of it on my computer though.
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steve dave: hey guys come over, let's play connect four and drink some (root) BEER!
guys: um ok, i guess we can check out the new basement set up.
steve dave: no, my wife doesn't let me down there. she's right though, I don't want us to ruin the carpet by walking on it.
steve dave: i got some pics of it on my computer though.
I've been to your place bro, there should be a limit on the number of Fat Heads you can have on your walls. The limit should be zero.....which you blew past by seven.
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Who needs a basement? I have my fun ALL OVER my apartment. :gocho:
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Stave is taking this one on the chin.
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Who needs a basement? I have my fun ALL OVER my apartment. :gocho:
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nice three boxes of total.
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Who needs a basement? I have my fun ALL OVER my apartment. :gocho:
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nice three boxes of total.
That one looks like it may be the Aldis brand THOTAL
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I feel like maybe this thread took a turn.
Did we ever get answer about how much Steve Dave is going to spend? Must be nice being a Senior moderator. Dude, probably wipes his ass with twenty dollar bills.
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I feel like maybe this thread took a turn.
Did we ever get answer about how much Steve Dave is going to spend? Must be nice being a Senior moderator. Dude, probably wipes his ass with twenty dollar bills.
First guy is doing some mock ups for me and should come by next week with his quote. Have another guy coming to look at it on tuesday. Won't be long. :ohno:
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I feel like maybe this thread took a turn.
Did we ever get answer about how much Steve Dave is going to spend? Must be nice being a Senior moderator. Dude, probably wipes his ass with twenty dollar bills.
First guy is doing some mock ups for me and should come by next week with his quote. Have another guy coming to look at it on tuesday. Won't be long. :ohno:
Just steal their design and do it all yourself.
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I feel like maybe this thread took a turn.
Did we ever get answer about how much Steve Dave is going to spend? Must be nice being a Senior moderator. Dude, probably wipes his ass with twenty dollar bills.
First guy is doing some mock ups for me and should come by next week with his quote. Have another guy coming to look at it on tuesday. Won't be long. :ohno:
Just steal their design and do it all yourself.
Anyone can do a design. Its implementing it that is the impediment.
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I feel like maybe this thread took a turn.
Did we ever get answer about how much Steve Dave is going to spend? Must be nice being a Senior moderator. Dude, probably wipes his ass with twenty dollar bills.
First guy is doing some mock ups for me and should come by next week with his quote. Have another guy coming to look at it on tuesday. Won't be long. :ohno:
Just steal their design and do it all yourself.
Anyone can do a design. Its implementing it that is the impediment.
Please. Anyone can do framing, finishing, and flooring. Hire someone for drywall, electricity and plumbing. Save $5K.
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Did you check your groundwires? Probably should.
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Did you check your groundwires? Probably should.
Yep, checked them
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Did you check your groundwires? Probably should.
Yep, checked them
What was their reading?
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Did you check your groundwires? Probably should.
Yep, checked them
What was their reading?
The guy with the thumbs up started flashing on my ground-checker
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Did you check your groundwires? Probably should.
Yep, checked them
What was their reading?
The guy with the thumbs up started flashing on my ground-checker
hmmm..... I don't want to tell you how to finish your own basement, but until you get a professional to evaluate your wiring, you messing with electronic fire. This issue combined with the faulty joists you seem to be ignoring has me concerned. Again, I am not trying to belittle your "home improvements", but it sounds like you're building a death trap down there.
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"220, 221 whatever it takes"
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Have 3 bids in hand. They are 25k, 28k and 35k. Waiting on a fourth and will then decide. At this point it will be hard to beat 28k guys.
A) They are Mennonites. I grew up in a heavily Mennonite community and they can carpenter their asses off.
B) Price (obvious)
C) 25k bid guy did not instill confidence
But, 4th bid people we are waiting on are the "big name" in Omaha remodeling and whatnot. They told me they would come in equal to or less than our lowest bid and knock it out in less than a month.
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Will you invite us all over for ice cream upon completion?
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Will you invite us all over for ice cream upon completion?
absolutely. Get your asses to Omaha and you can come.
Oh, also, we are doing a bar. Just the back bar and upper/lower cabinetry with some tile. No front bar. Realized it cost almost nothing when we were already in there.
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Don't forget to have them make it all kid-friendly.
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Don't forget to have them make it all kid-friendly.
well, it will have a bar now. also carpet which I imagine kids like. we're running cat6 to each room.
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The Mennonites are freakish carpenters. My grandfather was planning on building a new big barn one summer but hurt his knee so he hired the 'nites. Came in on a Thursday and were packing up their stuff before noon on Saturday. It was impressive.
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Some local SW KS Mennonite carpenters built my parents house. Did really good work for almost nothing. They aren't just barn builders either (at least where I was from). They know what cat6 is about and will tell you where and how to mount your LEDTV.
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can't go wrong with mennonites. can go wrong with carpet.
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can go wrong with carpet.
This has me confused a bit
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Will you invite us all over for ice cream upon completion?
absolutely. Get your asses to Omaha and you can come.
Oh, also, we are doing a bar. Just the back bar and upper/lower cabinetry with some tile. No front bar. Realized it cost almost nothing when we were already in there.
Are you telling me we can have an ice cream bar (Sundae Bar)? Multiple flavors?
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Def go with mennonites. No question.
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Will you invite us all over for ice cream upon completion?
absolutely. Get your asses to Omaha and you can come.
Oh, also, we are doing a bar. Just the back bar and upper/lower cabinetry with some tile. No front bar. Realized it cost almost nothing when we were already in there.
Are you telling me we can have an ice cream bar (Sundae Bar)? Multiple flavors?
Yeah bro, whatever blows wind up your skirt
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Will you invite us all over for ice cream upon completion?
absolutely. Get your asses to Omaha and you can come.
Oh, also, we are doing a bar. Just the back bar and upper/lower cabinetry with some tile. No front bar. Realized it cost almost nothing when we were already in there.
eff, you're gonna have all kinds of spots to conceal Ices.
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Will you invite us all over for ice cream upon completion?
absolutely. Get your asses to Omaha and you can come.
Oh, also, we are doing a bar. Just the back bar and upper/lower cabinetry with some tile. No front bar. Realized it cost almost nothing when we were already in there.
eff, you're gonna have all kinds of spots to conceal Ices.
Ice the Mennonites, they will love this
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can go wrong with carpet.
This has me confused a bit
i don't like carpet (on floors). put in a different floor.
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Carpet is one of the better options for a basement, actually.
Mennonites sound like the best option.
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Will you invite us all over for ice cream upon completion?
absolutely. Get your asses to Omaha and you can come.
Oh, also, we are doing a bar. Just the back bar and upper/lower cabinetry with some tile. No front bar. Realized it cost almost nothing when we were already in there.
eff, you're gonna have all kinds of spots to conceal Ices.
Ice the Mennonites, they will love this
Mennonites will be your best bet.
And, try the Icing. Miller, Beachy and Yoder will have a hoot.
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Is this going to be turned into a playroom now or a nursery?
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Carpet is one of the better options for a basement, actually.
pffft. let me guess, you're canadian?
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I didn't actually know I had another option other than carpet. Is wood an option in a basement? Doesn't seem like it should be. We will have tile over about 1/4 of it but it seems very uncomfortable for the rest. I'm barefoot 100% of the time i'm in my house. Dunno, definately open to suggestions.
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ceramic, stone, concrete.
cleaner. looks better. teaches the kids not to fall down so much.
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ceramic, stone, concrete.
cleaner. looks better. teaches the kids not to fall down so much.
It's already concrete. Kind of cold and not fun to walk on. :dunno:
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It's already concrete. Kind of cold and not fun to walk on. :dunno:
polished concrete. try not to fall down so much.
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check out bamboo or cork. bamboo feels like wood, but doesnt swell/shrink with water. Cork tile is awesome. somewhat soft, can finish im a lot of colors,works well with water exposure if sealed, and can be refinished. both are pretty awesome and woild work well in a basement.
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check out bamboo or cork. bamboo feels like wood, but doesnt swell/shrink with water. Cork tile is awesome. somewhat soft, can finish im a lot of colors,works well with water exposure if sealed, and can be refinished. both are pretty awesome and woild work well in a basement.
This isn't a kitchen you retards, it's a basement. It's going to be carpeted. I live in Nebraska for eff sakes. The floor will be -40 in the winter.
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This isn't a kitchen you retards, it's a basement. It's going to be carpeted. I live in Nebraska for eff sakes. The floor will be -40 in the winter.
sounds exactly like what a canadian would say. :blank:
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This isn't a kitchen you retards, it's a basement. It's going to be carpeted. I live in Nebraska for eff sakes. The floor will be -40 in the winter.
sounds exactly like what a canadian would say. :blank:
:frown:
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About the only way you can put wood over a concrete slab is if you install a radient heating surface between the 2. Which would also solve the eskimo floor issues, but it would also add a butttload to the price. Carpet is def. SD's best option here.
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can go wrong with carpet.
This has me confused a bit
i don't like carpet (on floors). put in a different floor.
where do you prefer your carpet? on ceilings or walls?
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I vote for the radiant heat. When I come up to do a frank murphy 'pak and get drunk/eat ice cream at SD's basement/bar, I'm gonna go ahead and need the heat coming up from the floor. I'd vote that you should really spare no cost on this SD.
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I didn't actually know I had another option other than carpet. Is wood an option in a basement? Doesn't seem like it should be. We will have tile over about 1/4 of it but it seems very uncomfortable for the rest. I'm barefoot 100% of the time i'm in my house. Dunno, definately open to suggestions.
Don't listen to them. Carpet is your best bet. Yes, a radiant floor would be great, but so would saving $8K and having a floor you can actually play with your future kids on.
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Tip since this basement sounds destined to SD jr's hangout, make a spot for a "kids" TV that is separate from the main tv. The fab SoJoCo McMansion I recently bought has a finished basement that is roughly L shaped. One leg of the L has a spot for a 32 inch tube about 18 inches off the floor that is perfect for the kids to watch cartoons on a Saturday morning while the other leg of the L has 65 inch Mits that I can watch Gameday on.
Since we don't have an artist rendering of the basement like we did in Kougs thread, I don't know if this specific layout works for you but keep the concept in mind.
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Tip since this basement sounds destined to SD jr's hangout, make a spot for a "kids" TV that is separate from the main tv. The fab SoJoCo McMansion I recently bought has a finished basement that is roughly L shaped. One leg of the L has a spot for a 32 inch tube about 18 inches off the floor that is perfect for the kids to watch cartoons on a Saturday morning while the other leg of the L has 65 inch Mits that I can watch Gameday on.
Since we don't have an artist rendering of the basement like we did in Kougs thread, I don't know if this specific layout works for you but keep the concept in mind.
I don't have kids and I'm not sure I ever will have them. This is definitely not being done for kids.
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Have them make the pillar bigger. Seems kind of puny for that size of room.
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have them install three other pillars to form a square of pillars then play nerf ball in the basement and use the pillars for bases.
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Will this basement 'pak include 2 buck chuck from newly built trader joe's conveniently located in same said town that SD happens to inhabit? :crossfingers:
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Puny pillar? That's gotta be a big blow to the ego. Better go buy a big truck and hang some rubber cow nuts off the back to conteract the pillar issue.
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check out bamboo or cork. bamboo feels like wood, but doesnt swell/shrink with water. Cork tile is awesome. somewhat soft, can finish im a lot of colors,works well with water exposure if sealed, and can be refinished. both are pretty awesome and woild work well in a basement.
This isn't a kitchen you retards, it's a basement. It's going to be carpeted. I live in Nebraska for eff sakes. The floor will be -40 in the winter.
If a pipe breaks, or your sump pump goes out, you'll regret the carpet.
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check out bamboo or cork. bamboo feels like wood, but doesnt swell/shrink with water. Cork tile is awesome. somewhat soft, can finish im a lot of colors,works well with water exposure if sealed, and can be refinished. both are pretty awesome and woild work well in a basement.
This isn't a kitchen you retards, it's a basement. It's going to be carpeted. I live in Nebraska for eff sakes. The floor will be -40 in the winter.
If a pipe breaks, or your sump pump goes out, you'll regret the carpet.
Vs what other options? Tile? Tile basement would suck.
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All BS aside, SD needs carpet tile. water damage happens, simply pull up the damaged tiles and replace them while the others stay as is.
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Tile? Tile basement would suck.
:lol:
who decided that canadians were allowed to post here?
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Carpet tile? WTF is he building, a basement or a goddamn elementary school auditorium/gymnasium/lunchroom?
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talk about a versitile basement.
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Our house was built in 2005 so the pipes should be in good shape and I've never heard the sump pump run (though one time I poured a pitcher of water in it to make sure it works). Not really worried about the water issue.
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"Don't have anything nice in your house, cause some freak accident may happen and ruin it all!" JFC, do you think that they don't have insurance in Nebraska? It's not like he lives in Iowa...
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The bard is going to look like this but with lighter cabinets and without the front bar (because those make no sense to me whatsoever outside of an actual bar with a bartender). Same tile and it will wrap around the front to the bathroom. So, Tile and Carpet combo (this was done SOLEY to appease sys).
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The bard is going to look like this but with lighter cabinets and without the front bar (because those make no sense to me whatsoever outside of an actual bar with a bartender). Same tile and it will wrap around the front to the bathroom. So, Tile and Carpet combo (this was done SOLEY to appease sys).
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that's the exact same tile that is in my kitchen/dining area. let me know if you have any questions about it or anything.
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The bard is going to look like this but with lighter cabinets and without the front bar (because those make no sense to me whatsoever outside of an actual bar with a bartender). Same tile and it will wrap around the front to the bathroom. So, Tile and Carpet combo (this was done SOLEY to appease sys).
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That's very pretty. Although I don't like how the tile on the wall behind the counter wraps around on the side walls. It looks weird because it extends beyond the cabinets. Don't do it like that ok. Granite countertops?
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OK, no wrap around weird wall tile
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I assume there will be a sink at the bar?
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OK, no wrap around weird wall tile
so no questions about the tile then, huh? gotcha. good luck w/ that. :flush:
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OK, no wrap around weird wall tile
Great, thanks.
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OK, no wrap around weird wall tile
so no questions about the tile then, huh? gotcha. good luck w/ that. :flush:
Is it good for walking on?
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OK, no wrap around weird wall tile
so no questions about the tile then, huh? gotcha. good luck w/ that. :flush:
Is it good for walking on?
I don't mean to step on rd's toes here, but I have some tile in my home as well so I feel like I'm informed enough to give me thoughts on this question. Yes.
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OK, no wrap around weird wall tile
so no questions about the tile then, huh? gotcha. good luck w/ that. :flush:
Is it good for walking on?
yes. it's really good. i think you're making a good choice here. doesn't sound like _33 has the exact same tile in his house though, so i would pretty much throw his opinion out the window. def good for walking on though.
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UPDATE:
We decided not to finish the basement. We think it will be easier to just up and buy a bigger/better house if we need the room.
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UPDATE:
We decided not to finish the basement. We think it will be easier to just up and buy a bigger/better house if we need the room.
Procrastination wins again!
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mods, lock thread. thanks.
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basements are for north koreans anyway
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UPDATE:
We decided not to finish the basement. We think it will be easier to just up and buy a bigger/better house if we need the room.
wow, looks like you took my post to heart. smart.
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thank god
messing with those joints was suicide
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Soooooooo no ice cream bar?
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So, just about wrapped up finishing my basement. Leaning heavily towards a projector as opposed to a Plasma/LCD. Anyone have any thoughts on the two? Or any recomendo's on a projo? Thinking ceiling mount, 120" screen, and lots of c@'s games :D
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So, just about wrapped up finishing my basement. Leaning heavily towards a projector as opposed to a Plasma/LCD. Anyone have any thoughts on the two? Or any recomendo's on a projo? Thinking ceiling mount, 120" screen, and lots of c@'s games :D
You should just start your own thread for this subject, keep it going for 3 months and revel in the attention. Then decide not to do it.
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So, just about wrapped up finishing my basement. Leaning heavily towards a projector as opposed to a Plasma/LCD. Anyone have any thoughts on the two? Or any recomendo's on a projo? Thinking ceiling mount, 120" screen, and lots of c@'s games :D
My parents have one in their basement. I like watching sporting events and movies on them. I have no idea what type of projector it is, but I seem to enjoy it when I'm watching stuff there. It has been there for 7 years and still works.
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Projectors are way more expensive.
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So, just about wrapped up finishing my basement. Leaning heavily towards a projector as opposed to a Plasma/LCD. Anyone have any thoughts on the two? Or any recomendo's on a projo? Thinking ceiling mount, 120" screen, and lots of c@'s games :D
You should just start your own thread for this subject, keep it going for 3 months and revel in the attention. Then decide not to do it.
:surprised: shots fired!
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listen, you get your own minions and then come talk to me
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Projector?? Lol maybe if this was 1993. Gross.
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After reading this thread, what ever happened to swish1? :sdeek:
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I had a potential renter offer to finish my basement on his own dime per my specs. Was caught off guard.
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I had a potential renter offer to finish my basement on his own dime per my specs. Was caught off guard.
He's puttin body parts in your walls.
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I had a potential renter offer to finish my basement on his own dime per my specs. Was caught off guard.
He's puttin body parts in your walls.
Quick question felix, how do you feel about sub-leasers?
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kougs is the resident home theater expert, best send him a PM
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So, just about wrapped up finishing my basement. Leaning heavily towards a projector as opposed to a Plasma/LCD. Anyone have any thoughts on the two? Or any recomendo's on a projo? Thinking ceiling mount, 120" screen, and lots of c@'s games :D
No one regrets a projector if the room can be dark. Look into Benq DLP projectors.
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Projectors are way more expensive.
Incorrect.
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A good 1080p projector and a 120" screen, while watching a HD source, blows away all other options.
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I had a potential renter offer to finish my basement on his own dime per my specs. Was caught off guard.
He's puttin body parts in your walls.
Quick question felix, how do you feel about sub-leasers?
If they're packed into the insulation/walls up to code, I am okay. Otherwise, it's a no go.
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A good 1080p projector and a 120" screen, while watching a HD source, blows away all other options.
:thumbs:
This is what I am thinking, I've seen them in action in other basements and want very much. Those Benq look very legit. Thinking 2500+ lumens, its a pretty dark basement. Gonna have to run some HDMI in the ceiling.
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This is what I am thinking, I've seen them in action in other basements and want very much. Those Benq look very legit. Thinking 2500+ lumens, its a pretty dark basement. Gonna have to run some HDMI in the ceiling.
As long as you will not be watching in a room with large windows that cannot be covered well, I wouldn't worry much about lumens. Most current home theater projectors are more than bright enough. But, always, the darker the room, the better the picture.
Resource: http://www.projectorreviews.com/
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avsforum.com
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Epson Powerlite 8350 + 100" Elite Screens Ez-Frame Series in gray instead of white if you are going to have some ambient or overhead light when you watch. Bought the screen from Amazon for under 600. Might see if there are vouchers for free projector mounts when you buy a screen from them, as there sometimes are. We have 2 rows of theater chairs with the back row on a riser. PM mobile and I'll send a pic.
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Epson Powerlite 8350 + 100" Elite Screens Ez-Frame Series in gray instead of white if you are going to have some ambient or overhead light when you watch. Bought the screen from Amazon for under 600. Might see if there are vouchers for free projector mounts when you buy a screen from them, as there sometimes are. We have 2 rows of theater chairs with the back row on a riser. PM mobile and I'll send a pic.
:thumbs:
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no effing way is a projector a better option than a big rough ridin' bad ass tv.
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Yes way.
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no effing way is a projector a better option than a big rough ridin' bad ass tv.
it is for poors who can't afford a big rough ridin' bad ass tv. great option for them.
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Going to be finished friday. Thank you everyone for your help!
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Going to be finished friday. Thank you everyone for your help!
What happened with the pole? :dunno:
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Going to be finished friday. Thank you everyone for your help!
What happened with the pole? :dunno:
they made it, like, a square. not sure what they put around it. looks like a normal wall with trim at the bottom. like, little pud pieces of trim.
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Going to be finished friday. Thank you everyone for your help!
What happened with the pole? :dunno:
they made it, like, a square. not sure what they put around it. looks like a normal wall with trim at the bottom. like, little pud pieces of trim.
Hmmmm, probably a secret compartment.
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The contractors prolly hid a dead body in that secret compartment
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Shitloads of ken griffey Jr's all over the place I hope. Name it Ken Griffey Jr Family Basement
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I had three exposed poles in my basement before I had it completely redone. Now the metal poles are encased in wood and look pretty elite. The trimmers did a beautiful job. Pro tip- do not skimp on the trim work. Planning on incorporating them into an English style pub/wet bar.
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when i would do that stuff, i'd write something on the back of whatever i used to cover up a column. it was usually about how whoever i was working with is a dumbass.
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when i would do that stuff, i'd write something on the back of whatever i used to cover up a column. it was usually about how whoever i was working with is a dumbass.
man, served
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when i would do that stuff, i'd write something on the back of whatever i used to cover up a column. it was usually about how whoever i was working with is a dumbass.
man, served
that co-worker got bam bam bam bam, SEVENSTRUCK!
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when i would do that stuff, i'd write something on the back of whatever i used to cover up a column. it was usually about how whoever i was working with is a dumbass.
man, served
that co-worker got bam bam bam bam, SEVENSTRUCK!
That's like Edgar A Poe style. That's cold.
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ben ji is currently finishing his basement and would like your help
Basement living room is 300sq feet, Budget is around 500-700
Quick synopsis
-Purchased gpas old house that had not been updated since the early 80's, peeled wallpaper and painted upstairs before moving in. Currently working on basement.
-Basement had shitty old tile that was coming up, have just completed removing all the tile.
-Original plan was to stain/paint the concrete but the tile adhesive is still on the ground, would need to rent some tools and spend an entire weekend working on it to remove all the adhesive/tar then stain it.
-Second plan was to install some pergo laminate wood flooring, was quoted around 1200 from lowes for installation and everything.
-Am now looking at carpet squares.
I need gE to help me out here and shoot me some Ideas. I am not looking to spend a crapton of money as I just want to make the basement decent right now. Will prob go all out on basement in the next 10 years.
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hire some big company to do it in like 3 weeks
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Have you ever watched Property Brothers, ben ji? Use some of their ideas.
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Use a trusted contractor. They can work with your budget. Let them to the heavy lifting. Tell them what you are willing to do. I did all the painting, staining, & urethane work. Do the stuff you know how to do/ can learn how to do/ willing to do.
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hire some guys to do it in like 3 weeks. it's super cheap.
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hire some guys to do it in like 3 weeks. it's super cheap.
or do this. Diy is way over rated.
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Hire experienced basement finisher AppleJack to do that crap. It will probably take me like 9 months to finish because I like to drink and junk.
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For $700, best bet is to buy 5gal of paint, rent a sprayer, then go nuts. Paint it all. Really only option on a $2/sf budget.
Your welcome.
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SD,
A couple questions:
1. How long did it take them to do it from start to finish (I'm assuming like 3 weeks?)
2. How many sq. ft did you finish
3. What was the cost per sq. ft
TIA
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SD,
A couple questions:
1. How long did it take them to do it from start to finish (I'm assuming like 3 weeks?)
2. How many sq. ft did you finish
3. What was the cost per sq. ft
TIA
yeah, like 3 weeks. they still have to put carpet down so probably 3 weeks and however long that takes
1,200, left the back as unfinished storage area
like $22 a sq ft roughly. that includes fixtures, bathroom stuff, etc.
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$22 is very inexpensive. was already framed or something?
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Number of bathrooms/bedrooms you put in?
A wet bar for basement paks?
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1 br 1 bath one huge as no purpose room